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General Discussion / Web Programming and Design / Re: b up
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on: 22 May, 2013, 22:37:46
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Yeah, this is due to different server environments and PHP versions. The tool still functions though. You just need to scroll to the bottom and you either get "and it loaded fine" or "and it didn't load".
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General Discussion / Miscellaneous Discussion / Re: Religion Discussion
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on: 22 May, 2013, 21:08:51
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Also, if there is a God, then there is proof that he is a Christian God. He has to be omnipotent, He has to be all-merciful, and He has to be all-Good. Nothing good can come from an evil creator.
Why can't anything good come from an evil creator? Didn't God create everything, so evil as well? And if evil can come from a good creator, why won't an evil creator be able to create something good? God did not create evil, he allowed it. God doesn't want to be so clear(I am who I am).
Just to correct a typo, its "I am who am.", which has a much deeper meaning. 
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General Discussion / Miscellaneous Discussion / Re: Religion Discussion
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on: 22 May, 2013, 15:09:06
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I'd just like to congratulate everyone on getting to 5 pages without a flame war.  I think this prove we really can have a religious debate without going off the deep end. Also, if this thread does start to develop into a flame war, could the offending posts be removed instead of locking the whole topic?
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General Discussion / Miscellaneous Discussion / Re: Religion Discussion
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on: 22 May, 2013, 03:09:26
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In order for me to believe something, I require evidence; that's just how my mind works.
I would not say that evolution and Christianity are equal in that they both are believed in by faith. Evolution is not blind faith; there is massive support and evidence for it. Fine, evolution is a theory, but people often misinterpret "theory" for just a guess. A scientific theory actually very comprehensive and is tested and confirmed repeatedly. There is tons of evidence for evolution that can be seen in both living and dead creatures.
Also, theists frequently say that there must be a first cause to start everything, so therefore it must be God. Even if there is some supernatural creator to set the universe in motion, how do you know that it is the Christian god? It could be any other supernatural being. I also find that this is somewhat saying, "Science doesn't know, therefore God." If we don't know something, it isn't very reasonable to conclude that it must be because of God. I'd instead rather search harder and attempt to find an explanation that can actually be supported.
Even if an explanation can never be found by science, I'd rather leave that gap of knowledge empty as opposed to filling it with religion
There is very little, almost no evidence for evolution, and most of the published "evidence" is either fake or turns out to be something totally different than what they and not support the theory of evolution at all (or in some cases, actually refute it). On the other hand, there is overwhelming evidence for creation and God, which isn't fake, and has not been proven to be something else. Also, if there is a God, then there is proof that he is a Christian God. He has to be omnipotent, He has to be all-merciful, and He has to be all-Good. Nothing good can come from an evil creator.
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General Discussion / Miscellaneous Discussion / Re: Religion Discussion
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on: 21 May, 2013, 16:09:46
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What if God created himself? Infinite chain broken. And never mind that it doesn't make sense, making sense was never a requirement..
What if He did? It doesn't matter. We know He exists, and we cannot know how without some sort of divine revelation.
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General Discussion / Miscellaneous Discussion / Re: Religion Discussion
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on: 21 May, 2013, 16:05:52
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If God created everything, then who created God?
This thought challenges the "someone created you" part of religion, because God would then have to have been created by someone higher and mightier, and then it chains on.
No it does not challenge anything. There cannot be an infinite chain of "makers", so at some point there needs to be a supreme "maker". Now, just because you cannot explain how He can exist does not mean He does not exist. I would rather do something purely out of my own desire to be good than with the bribe of eternal contentedness or the fear of eternal damnation.
Your "bribe" and "fear" are only the secondary reasons to be good. The primary reason is to please God, because you owe everything to Him.
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General Discussion / Miscellaneous Discussion / Re: Religion Discussion
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on: 21 May, 2013, 15:58:13
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Just to clarify, it is possible to prove God exists, but it is not possible to explain how He exists.
So, St. Thomas Aquinas gave five proofs for why God exists. Just because our human minds cannot understand the existence of God does not mean he does not exist.
A rock does not comprehend the existence of living creatures, but that does not make living creatures non-existent.
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