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« Reply #30 on: 05 January, 2012, 10:30:08 »
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I prefer separated arrows. Makes it harder to lean a key to the side and accidentally press another one. That said, the button in the middle renders it impossible to press more than one arrow key at a time with one finger. Where are all these prototypes coming from, anyway?
Also, will any of the released nSpire OSs even run on it?
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« Reply #31 on: 05 January, 2012, 11:23:24 »
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AFAWCT, the CAS+ hardware has significant differences with even the hardware of prototype Nspires (those which use the latest prototype 1.1.x and 1.2.x versions, signed with development keys), so the released Nspire OS do not run on CAS+. The CAS+ (running OS version 1.0.x) even have a different communication protocol.
Yet, people keep scamming others, on eBay and other places, with those useless CAS+ models, and TI doesn't seem to be really eager to move in any way to solve the problem of scammed customers. The root cause of CAS+ items escaping into the wild by dozens, or even maybe hundreds, and being used for more than four years to scam customers, is TI not being careful enough about collecting CAS+...
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« Reply #32 on: 05 January, 2012, 11:39:21 »
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If only TI would release the CAS+ OS, in order to to at least unbrick the CAS+ whose OS was removed by error/accident (by trying to upgrade through Menu+Enter+P for exemple...).

As the CAS+ OS is more than 4 years old and totally incompatible with the TI-Nspire, I cannot understand why... It's not like the CAS+ OS file will encrypt more critical informations than the latest Nspire CX OS...
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« Reply #33 on: 05 January, 2012, 11:39:44 »
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So, what happens when you try?
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« Reply #34 on: 05 January, 2012, 19:55:25 »
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So, what happens when you try?

The original CAS+ OS is removed.

And as TI has never released any CAS+ OS, your CAS+ is permanently bricked.
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« Reply #35 on: 05 January, 2012, 21:04:11 »
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I've taken you a photo of the TI-Phoenix 1 PCB!
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« Reply #36 on: 05 January, 2012, 21:25:47 »
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Looks pretty interesting. Smiley

And to think TI was already developping a new calc shortly after the 89T/84+ release when we all thought they went almost 3 years without releasing anything...
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« Reply #37 on: 05 January, 2012, 21:33:33 »
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Quote from: Freyaday on 05 January, 2012, 11:39:44
So, what happens when you try?

The original CAS+ OS is removed.

And as TI has never released any CAS+ OS, your CAS+ is permanently bricked.
Unless you find a dumped CAS+ somewhere?
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« Reply #38 on: 05 January, 2012, 21:41:20 »
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i thought there would be more components on that pcb, it's rather empty, isn't it?
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« Reply #39 on: 06 January, 2012, 00:28:23 »
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2 other photos of the TI-Phoenix 1 hardware for you:







I've added the 1st MB photo to the 1st post.

You can read my comments an get the photos in higher resolution from the TI-Planet news:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=8643&p=119443#p119443
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« Reply #40 on: 06 January, 2012, 01:22:39 »
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Oh wow, that looks cool! Grin I do like that keyboard layout better than the current layout.
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« Reply #41 on: 06 January, 2012, 01:27:45 »
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Quote from: Freyaday on 05 January, 2012, 11:39:44
So, what happens when you try?

The original CAS+ OS is removed.

And as TI has never released any CAS+ OS, your CAS+ is permanently bricked.
Unless you find a dumped CAS+ somewhere?

We (myself, geogeo, Extended?, critor...) tried quite hard to dump it, and for now ... no success .... Sad
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« Reply #42 on: 06 January, 2012, 06:34:08 »
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I wonder if you could convince TI to release the boot2 keys for the CAS+, so you could update the boot2 to allow the higher OS versions.
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« Reply #43 on: 06 January, 2012, 07:03:04 »
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No we won't be able to, as Nspire Boot2 are incompatible with CAS+ Boot2.



Anyway, Datamath has finally released the TI-Phoenix 1 page with its test:
http://www.datamath.org/Graphing/Phoenix.htm

The page does include some information I sent after performing my own tests.

Have a look at the OS about dialog box:


Yes, no mention of the "Nspire" name. It's a Phoenix OS !!!

Discover more secrets and higher resolution photos of the OS for now in my news:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8644
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« Reply #44 on: 06 January, 2012, 11:37:37 »
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well, the basic os layout looks quite the same, as you can see on that graph page, with the layout of 4 pages on 1..
but the upper bar is totaly different O.o tbh, i like the new layout more Smiley
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