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« on: 26 April, 2012, 22:52:00 »
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As I mentioned int he Grammer 2 topic, I should be starting Grammer 3 in about two weeks if I am on schedule (1 year after Grammer 1 was started). Because this is the time that I will be without internet, if you have any ideas, post them here, I will make a copy of it, and I will reference it while I am working on the program. In the plans for Grammer 3 since the start:

It will be a two page app
It will have a legacy mode for older Grammer programs
It will have a built in program editor
It will allow for custom command sets (up to 16 packages that contain their own functions).
  • This will mean you can have a floating point math command set, linking command set, and others
  • I might bring this down to 8 possible sets at a time
  • These will be defined at the beginning
Source code will be "tokenised" like on the TI-89. This will help speed it up massively.
There will be specific variable types like sprites, fonts, and strings

I am thinking of adding in standard 32-bit math.
4-level grayscale and 3-level gray
More tile map options
Proper sprite clipping (I've already got the code planned)

If you guys can think of any good ideas, please post. For the editor, what would make things easier? I will be writing a menu system, so I will probably include customisable menus, quick keys, and other things. Maybe I should make a search function? Search and replace? Since Grammer will have so much control, errors will be completely handled by Grammer, so if you press ON for example, Grammer will take it to the Grammer editor, not the program editor.
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Spoiler for FileSyst:
FileSyst is an application that provides a folder and filesystem for the TI-83+/84+ calculators. It is designed to be easy to access and use in BASIC, and it can be used to access game files and save data, or to create a command prompt, among other things:

Spoiler for Graphiti:
This is a graph explorer for graph theory. It will require lots of work to finish. Currently you can:
Add/delete vertices
Add edges (direction not shown, but they are directed)
Arrange vertices in a circle (in the future, you will be able to define levels of rings and the number of nodes in each)
Create complete graphs quickly

Plans:
Add adjacency matrix viewer
Deleting edges
Multiple graphs support
Arrows for directed graphs
Planarity testing
Matrix operations
Weighted edges
Chromatic polynomials
Chromatic numbers

Spoiler for Stats:

Samocal             [o---------]
Virtual Processor   [o---------]
EnG                 [oo--------]
Grammer             [ooo-------]
AsmComp             [ooo-------]
Partex              [oooo------]
BatLib              [oooooooo--]
Grammer82           [----------]
Grammer68000        [----------]


Pseudonyms:  Zeda, Xeda, Thunderbolt
Languages:   English, français
Programming: z80 Assmebly
             Grammer
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Known For:   -Creator of the Grammer programming language
              (Winning program of zContest2011)
             -BatLib- One of the most feature packed libraries for BASIC programmers available
              with over 100 functions and a simple programming language
             -Learning to program z80 in hexadecimal before using an assembler (no computer was
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« Reply #1 on: 26 April, 2012, 23:33:34 »
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2 page App ? Sad

Could Grammer 3 load Omnicalc fonts, for example ?
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« Reply #2 on: 26 April, 2012, 23:39:15 »
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2 page App ? Sad
It will have to be Big frown (Omnicalc is two pages ^^')

Could Grammer 3 load Omnicalc fonts, for example ?
Yes, I can definitely add that. Do you mean load them for use in the Grammer program or in the OS?
(If it is loading them for the Grammer program, I can actually add that right now to Grammer 2).
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FileSyst is an application that provides a folder and filesystem for the TI-83+/84+ calculators. It is designed to be easy to access and use in BASIC, and it can be used to access game files and save data, or to create a command prompt, among other things:

Spoiler for Graphiti:
This is a graph explorer for graph theory. It will require lots of work to finish. Currently you can:
Add/delete vertices
Add edges (direction not shown, but they are directed)
Arrange vertices in a circle (in the future, you will be able to define levels of rings and the number of nodes in each)
Create complete graphs quickly

Plans:
Add adjacency matrix viewer
Deleting edges
Multiple graphs support
Arrows for directed graphs
Planarity testing
Matrix operations
Weighted edges
Chromatic polynomials
Chromatic numbers

Spoiler for Stats:

Samocal             [o---------]
Virtual Processor   [o---------]
EnG                 [oo--------]
Grammer             [ooo-------]
AsmComp             [ooo-------]
Partex              [oooo------]
BatLib              [oooooooo--]
Grammer82           [----------]
Grammer68000        [----------]


Pseudonyms:  Zeda, Xeda, Thunderbolt
Languages:   English, français
Programming: z80 Assmebly
             Grammer
             TI-BASIC (83/84/+/SE, 89/89t/92)
Known For:   -Creator of the Grammer programming language
              (Winning program of zContest2011)
             -BatLib- One of the most feature packed libraries for BASIC programmers available
              with over 100 functions and a simple programming language
             -Learning to program z80 in hexadecimal before using an assembler (no computer was
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« Reply #3 on: 26 April, 2012, 23:46:30 »
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for use in the Grammer program or in the OS?

both, both... It was just an idea, I don't particulary need it. I know that Output allow you to load a font set, but, I don't know if Omnicalc font sets are compatible with Grammer font sets.

Other idea: I particulary love Celtic III's fonctions to manage groups. Do you know about ?
Make a list of the files in the group, in which order they are, possibility to ungroup just one of them...


And another idea take to Celtic: Access to Temp progs... (We can do an equivalent with actual Grammer commands, but if you want...)
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« Reply #4 on: 26 April, 2012, 23:53:27 »
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Hmm, that is a good idea to be able to at least unload certain variables from a group (I've been working on the code to do that, actually, but for another project. I can add it to Grammer, too Cheesy)

Also, Grammer has access to TempVars. You can even copy a program from archive to a temp var and run it as a Grammer program, currently:

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solve(0,"EPROG","VTemp1→A
prgmA

--OR--

prgmsolve(0,"EPROG","VTemp1

Also, I am almost finished adding in Omnicalc fonts Smiley
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My pastebin
Spoiler for FileSyst:
FileSyst is an application that provides a folder and filesystem for the TI-83+/84+ calculators. It is designed to be easy to access and use in BASIC, and it can be used to access game files and save data, or to create a command prompt, among other things:

Spoiler for Graphiti:
This is a graph explorer for graph theory. It will require lots of work to finish. Currently you can:
Add/delete vertices
Add edges (direction not shown, but they are directed)
Arrange vertices in a circle (in the future, you will be able to define levels of rings and the number of nodes in each)
Create complete graphs quickly

Plans:
Add adjacency matrix viewer
Deleting edges
Multiple graphs support
Arrows for directed graphs
Planarity testing
Matrix operations
Weighted edges
Chromatic polynomials
Chromatic numbers

Spoiler for Stats:

Samocal             [o---------]
Virtual Processor   [o---------]
EnG                 [oo--------]
Grammer             [ooo-------]
AsmComp             [ooo-------]
Partex              [oooo------]
BatLib              [oooooooo--]
Grammer82           [----------]
Grammer68000        [----------]


Pseudonyms:  Zeda, Xeda, Thunderbolt
Languages:   English, français
Programming: z80 Assmebly
             Grammer
             TI-BASIC (83/84/+/SE, 89/89t/92)
Known For:   -Creator of the Grammer programming language
              (Winning program of zContest2011)
             -BatLib- One of the most feature packed libraries for BASIC programmers available
              with over 100 functions and a simple programming language
             -Learning to program z80 in hexadecimal before using an assembler (no computer was
              available!)
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« Reply #5 on: 28 April, 2012, 06:03:25 »
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I never knew that I could do the second option O.o
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« Reply #6 on: 28 April, 2012, 06:24:08 »
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It's all just pointers, whether they are passed through Ans or through vars Smiley
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FileSyst is an application that provides a folder and filesystem for the TI-83+/84+ calculators. It is designed to be easy to access and use in BASIC, and it can be used to access game files and save data, or to create a command prompt, among other things:

Spoiler for Graphiti:
This is a graph explorer for graph theory. It will require lots of work to finish. Currently you can:
Add/delete vertices
Add edges (direction not shown, but they are directed)
Arrange vertices in a circle (in the future, you will be able to define levels of rings and the number of nodes in each)
Create complete graphs quickly

Plans:
Add adjacency matrix viewer
Deleting edges
Multiple graphs support
Arrows for directed graphs
Planarity testing
Matrix operations
Weighted edges
Chromatic polynomials
Chromatic numbers

Spoiler for Stats:

Samocal             [o---------]
Virtual Processor   [o---------]
EnG                 [oo--------]
Grammer             [ooo-------]
AsmComp             [ooo-------]
Partex              [oooo------]
BatLib              [oooooooo--]
Grammer82           [----------]
Grammer68000        [----------]


Pseudonyms:  Zeda, Xeda, Thunderbolt
Languages:   English, français
Programming: z80 Assmebly
             Grammer
             TI-BASIC (83/84/+/SE, 89/89t/92)
Known For:   -Creator of the Grammer programming language
              (Winning program of zContest2011)
             -BatLib- One of the most feature packed libraries for BASIC programmers available
              with over 100 functions and a simple programming language
             -Learning to program z80 in hexadecimal before using an assembler (no computer was
              available!)
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« Reply #7 on: 28 April, 2012, 16:07:50 »
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Idea for grammer 3: A good readme Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: 28 April, 2012, 16:11:43 »
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« Reply #9 on: 28 April, 2012, 16:12:51 »
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Idea for grammer 3: A good readme Tongue

Coming soon Smiley  in French.
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« Reply #10 on: 28 April, 2012, 16:14:24 »
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Because I'm french, so I write it in french. Tongue

I could translate, maybe. If I have time.
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That would be cool Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: 28 April, 2012, 16:31:13 »
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Yes, for Grammer 3, I will make sure to have a good readme Smiley (That is a good idea)

EDIT: Yeong asked about adding a menu hook in Grammer 3 and that reminded me about some of the other menu features that I think would be awesome.
Since Grammer 3 won't be using the OS menu system, I will definitely be adding a way to make a customisable MenuKey that works like my MenuKeyHook. I will also make it easy for the user to add in extra, customisable menus, too.

Also, since I plan to have custom command sets, I will probably leave the F1 to F4 keys as changing menus depending on what command sets you have loaded. F5 will probably be the custom menu.
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My pastebin
Spoiler for FileSyst:
FileSyst is an application that provides a folder and filesystem for the TI-83+/84+ calculators. It is designed to be easy to access and use in BASIC, and it can be used to access game files and save data, or to create a command prompt, among other things:

Spoiler for Graphiti:
This is a graph explorer for graph theory. It will require lots of work to finish. Currently you can:
Add/delete vertices
Add edges (direction not shown, but they are directed)
Arrange vertices in a circle (in the future, you will be able to define levels of rings and the number of nodes in each)
Create complete graphs quickly

Plans:
Add adjacency matrix viewer
Deleting edges
Multiple graphs support
Arrows for directed graphs
Planarity testing
Matrix operations
Weighted edges
Chromatic polynomials
Chromatic numbers

Spoiler for Stats:

Samocal             [o---------]
Virtual Processor   [o---------]
EnG                 [oo--------]
Grammer             [ooo-------]
AsmComp             [ooo-------]
Partex              [oooo------]
BatLib              [oooooooo--]
Grammer82           [----------]
Grammer68000        [----------]


Pseudonyms:  Zeda, Xeda, Thunderbolt
Languages:   English, français
Programming: z80 Assmebly
             Grammer
             TI-BASIC (83/84/+/SE, 89/89t/92)
Known For:   -Creator of the Grammer programming language
              (Winning program of zContest2011)
             -BatLib- One of the most feature packed libraries for BASIC programmers available
              with over 100 functions and a simple programming language
             -Learning to program z80 in hexadecimal before using an assembler (no computer was
              available!)
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« Reply #13 on: 28 April, 2012, 19:17:04 »
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2 page App ? Sad
It will have to be Big frown (Omnicalc is two pages ^^')

Could Grammer 3 load Omnicalc fonts, for example ?
Yes, I can definitely add that. Do you mean load them for use in the Grammer program or in the OS?
(If it is loading them for the Grammer program, I can actually add that right now to Grammer 2).
Omnicalc is two pages? Huh? I thought it was one. Although I am fine if it's two pages since it has so many features.

ANyway good luck on Grammer 3 Xeda Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: 28 April, 2012, 19:51:06 »
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Oh, you are right, it is only one page o_O
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Spoiler for FileSyst:
FileSyst is an application that provides a folder and filesystem for the TI-83+/84+ calculators. It is designed to be easy to access and use in BASIC, and it can be used to access game files and save data, or to create a command prompt, among other things:

Spoiler for Graphiti:
This is a graph explorer for graph theory. It will require lots of work to finish. Currently you can:
Add/delete vertices
Add edges (direction not shown, but they are directed)
Arrange vertices in a circle (in the future, you will be able to define levels of rings and the number of nodes in each)
Create complete graphs quickly

Plans:
Add adjacency matrix viewer
Deleting edges
Multiple graphs support
Arrows for directed graphs
Planarity testing
Matrix operations
Weighted edges
Chromatic polynomials
Chromatic numbers

Spoiler for Stats:

Samocal             [o---------]
Virtual Processor   [o---------]
EnG                 [oo--------]
Grammer             [ooo-------]
AsmComp             [ooo-------]
Partex              [oooo------]
BatLib              [oooooooo--]
Grammer82           [----------]
Grammer68000        [----------]


Pseudonyms:  Zeda, Xeda, Thunderbolt
Languages:   English, français
Programming: z80 Assmebly
             Grammer
             TI-BASIC (83/84/+/SE, 89/89t/92)
Known For:   -Creator of the Grammer programming language
              (Winning program of zContest2011)
             -BatLib- One of the most feature packed libraries for BASIC programmers available
              with over 100 functions and a simple programming language
             -Learning to program z80 in hexadecimal before using an assembler (no computer was
              available!)
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