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« on: 01 May, 2012, 18:58:37 »
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Hi again. I was just wondering if anyone knew any ways to make a BASIC game look 3d but also be fast? I also don't want to have to get into trigonometry because that's hard and above my math skills. anyone know how?

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« Reply #1 on: 01 May, 2012, 19:12:26 »
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Well, I don't know any way to do 3D without trigonometry.
It's not simple but very useful, you should read some articles on Wikipedia about it...

And 3D with TI-Basic, even with good optimizations, would be too slow to create game, in my humble opinion.
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« Reply #2 on: 01 May, 2012, 19:15:53 »
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Maybe use some isometric projection (that's what I've been working on and doesn't need trigonometry) but also this won't run fast in TI-basic. If you want to make something faster or better looking you may have to learn axe or grammer.
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« Reply #3 on: 01 May, 2012, 19:20:48 »
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I've heard of grammer but never bothered to learn it. Do you know of any good tutorials for grammer. I have the original asm grammer program.
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« Reply #4 on: 01 May, 2012, 19:48:47 »
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Hmm, the latest update is an app. It was released a few days ago and has a tutorial and documentation included:
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=12730.msg244767#msg244767
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« Reply #5 on: 03 May, 2012, 19:43:50 »
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can someone give a different link because the filters at my school are blocking the link. Also I can't put it on my calculator because I'm at school and I don't have a computer at where I'm living currently. So if someone can get me an older tutorial or just tell me what commands I can and cant use that would be great.
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« Reply #6 on: 03 May, 2012, 20:13:09 »
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Hmm, this has the command list here:
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/441/44104.html
It is called "Commands and Tutorial.pdf".

However, that link only goes to another post on Omnimaga, so I don't know why it would be blocked o_O Maybe try copying it and pasting it as the address instead of clicking it? otherwise, try to navigate to it:
-Go to the Grammer subforum (you can get to it from the homepage)
-Go to "Latest Grammer Updates."
-Go to the last post
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Spoiler for FileSyst:
FileSyst is an application that provides a folder and filesystem for the TI-83+/84+ calculators. It is designed to be easy to access and use in BASIC, and it can be used to access game files and save data, or to create a command prompt, among other things:

Spoiler for Graphiti:
This is a graph explorer for graph theory. It will require lots of work to finish. Currently you can:
Add/delete vertices
Add edges (direction not shown, but they are directed)
Arrange vertices in a circle (in the future, you will be able to define levels of rings and the number of nodes in each)
Create complete graphs quickly

Plans:
Add adjacency matrix viewer
Deleting edges
Multiple graphs support
Arrows for directed graphs
Planarity testing
Matrix operations
Weighted edges
Chromatic polynomials
Chromatic numbers

Spoiler for Stats:

Samocal             [o---------]
Virtual Processor   [o---------]
EnG                 [oo--------]
Grammer             [ooo-------]
AsmComp             [ooo-------]
Partex              [oooo------]
BatLib              [oooooooo--]
Grammer82           [----------]
Grammer68000        [----------]


Pseudonyms:  Zeda, Xeda, Thunderbolt
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Programming: z80 Assmebly
             Grammer
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Known For:   -Creator of the Grammer programming language
              (Winning program of zContest2011)
             -BatLib- One of the most feature packed libraries for BASIC programmers available
              with over 100 functions and a simple programming language
             -Learning to program z80 in hexadecimal before using an assembler (no computer was
              available!)
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« Reply #7 on: 09 May, 2012, 03:10:49 »
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I made an example of a rotating cube:
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ZStandard
"8cos(X→Y₁
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FnOff
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Ans→N
Repeat getKey
ClrDraw
θ+N→E
Ans+N→F
Ans+N→G
Y₁(θ→A:Y₂(θ→B:Y₁(E→C:Y₂(E→D
Y₁(F→H:Y₂(F→I:Y₁(G→J:Y₂(G→K
Line(A,B,A,-B
Line(C,D,C,-D
Line(H,I,H,-I
Line(J,K,J,-K
Line(A,B,C,D
Line(A,-B,C,-D
Line(C,D,H,I
Line(C,-D,H,-I
Line(H,I,J,K
Line(H,-I,J,-K
Line(J,K,A,B
Line(J,-K,A,-B
θ+.05π→θ
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As you know, even this simple example requires trigonometry.
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