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« on: 30 May, 2012, 00:54:02 »
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On his TI-Nspire CX CAS, Jim Bauwens is allready running OS 3.2.0.1180! Grin

Don't ask him to send it to you: it's a development OS. It's signed by the development RSA keys and you won't be able to install it on your TI-Nspire which is "normally" validating the OS with the production RSA keys.



But don't be sad. Jim just shared the 1st video of a TI-Nspire running OS 3.2.

Let's discover together the new Lua physics engine :

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2veiOueQDA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2veiOueQDA</a>



More 3.2 informations are available from the TI-Planet news:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9367
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« Reply #1 on: 30 May, 2012, 00:55:10 »
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trolling pic also using physics engine :

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« Reply #2 on: 30 May, 2012, 03:50:20 »
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All I can say is that with all the new updates, I REALLY WANT TO GET IT!!!  Shocked
But at the same time no Ndless..

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« Reply #3 on: 30 May, 2012, 07:02:17 »
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No Ndless, and potentially some brand-new bugs. The previous OS 3.x versions have bugs in the CAS that are missing from AMS (for TI-68k calculators) and previous OS versions for the Nspire, and installing an unmodified OS 3.0.1 can easily brick calculators beyond repair with the standard, provided USB A <-> mini-USB B cable...
And the fact is that TI avoided most of the exam season in the USA... it's perfectly understandable that they didn't want to reiterate last year's fiasco.
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« Reply #4 on: 31 May, 2012, 01:43:07 »
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well ndless will be offline some time if we install the os 3.2 but maybe a downgrade method would appear fast
the question is... when will the OS 3.2 update be available???
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« Reply #5 on: 31 May, 2012, 07:38:59 »
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well ndless will be offline some time if we install the os 3.2 but maybe a downgrade method would appear fast
Clickpad & Touchpad calculators that remain on boot2 1.4 (if their users make sure to transfer only TNOC'ed OS upgrades) are OK, but for Clickpad / Touchpad / CX calculators that have a 3.x boot2 version, ways to downgrade from OS 3.2 (which will certainly raise the minimum allowed OS version once again) are unlikely to appear very quickly, for two reasons:
* boot2 3.x versions are hardened against some classes of attacks, and OS 3.2 undoubtedly will be as well;
* a persistent fact is that hardly anybody cares about the Nspire series. More than two years after the initial release of arbitrary code execution, there's no Linux-based mini-distro for the Nspire series; the availability of arbitrary code execution is not near-uninterrupted; a good GFX library became available only pretty recently; etc.
So far, in more than two years, the Nspire series has not motivated anyone aiming at thoroughly pwning it; only fairly few people are aiming at exercising our basic user rights of running whatever we want on the platforms we own.

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the question is... when will the OS 3.2 update be available???
Those under NDA, among whom I am not (and I do not want to join that group at any cost !), seem to have received dates belonging to next week (June 4-10) or the week after (June 11-17).
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« Reply #6 on: 31 May, 2012, 23:27:10 »
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Very nice!  Some of the new features for this OS sound somewhat useful!
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« Reply #7 on: 01 June, 2012, 01:36:52 »
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[sarcasm]Hopefully by OS 3.3 they should have native assembly capability up and running.[/sarcasm]
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« Reply #8 on: 01 June, 2012, 04:53:14 »
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How long will it take for this to be installed by default on calcs being sold? I'd guess a month or two after its release so I wold hope that it doesn't take too much more then that for ndless. The new engine looks real nice though so I'll be sure to keep track of whats made for that to see if it might be worthwile to upgrade and lose ndless.
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« Reply #9 on: 01 June, 2012, 11:59:59 »
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I'd guess a month or two after its release so I wold hope that it doesn't take too much more then that for ndless.
OS 3.0.1 was released in April 2011; Ndless for OS 3.1 was released in January 2012.

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Losing the power of native code and the possibilities it provides (so many things that TI's proprietary, two-way incompatible Lua cannot do) is never worthwhile Wink
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Losing the power of native code and the possibilities it provides (so many things that TI's proprietary, two-way incompatible Lua cannot do) is never worthwhile Wink
Well at least the good side of "official" stuff is that it will work on any Nspire 3.2. ( I mean, whenever Ndless 3.2 comes out, programs for it will only work on jailbroken devices which only represent a tiny fraction of the whole worldwide %) But that's always been like that, for any device....
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« Reply #11 on: 01 June, 2012, 22:47:13 »
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adriweb, it's only like that for devices that actually need jailbreaking. look at the ti-84.
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« Reply #12 on: 01 June, 2012, 23:19:11 »
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Look at the TI-89 too. The world needs more 68k programmers.
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« Reply #13 on: 02 June, 2012, 06:15:01 »
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« Reply #14 on: 02 June, 2012, 09:35:15 »
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Well at least the good side of "official" stuff is that it will work on any Nspire 3.2.

Well, sorry Adriweb but it's not my fault if nDoom and mViewer are going to stop working in the next two weeks.
And such programs cannot be developped in Lua.

You can't present such a limitation as a good side, sorry.



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( I mean, whenever Ndless 3.2 comes out, programs for it will only work on jailbroken devices which only represent a tiny fraction of the whole worldwide %) But that's always been like that, for any device....

I take such sentence as quite disrecpectful for people who have worked hard or are still working hard on Ndless.

Are you trying to discourage people from going on?
For what purpose? TI?
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