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« Reply #30 on: 24 November, 2010, 05:50:13 »
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Android, FTW.  I love my android phone. I also wish I had time to make apps. ;-) Maybe an omnimaga app or something.
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« Reply #31 on: 24 November, 2010, 05:52:23 »
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Do you mean like a post notifier or something?
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« Reply #32 on: 24 November, 2010, 05:53:09 »
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Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on 24 November, 2010, 05:45:09
Quote from: calcforth on 24 November, 2010, 01:21:22
Quote from: Builderboy on 23 November, 2010, 23:16:03
They are not forced to charge money, they can make it charge whatever they want ^^ you do have to pay for the SDK though Sad
Actually it's free - but it only works with MacOS. The problem here is not cost, it's question of control. The SDK is free, but you can not distribute programs developed with it except via AppStore and Apple keeps the right to kick anything from it at any time. Basically you are Apple slave and Apple decides if you projects lives or dies.
Ew this sucks. Basically, if I decide to develop apps for the Iphone, I need to pay myself a new computer OS? I sure hope it's possible to install Mac OS on any computer, now, not just their overpriced machines, otherwise I would be surprised if a lot of people developed apps distributed for free. X.x

Personally, I have no plan to develop apps for iPhone. I would rather prefer developing for a more open device or the computer. Right now I have no plan to do so, though, so I'm sticking to my good ol' 83+ calculator. Tongue
Quote from: Eeems on 24 November, 2010, 04:53:33
winChain is apparently not updated frequently enough. But it can work. The best way that I know would be DragonFire SDK, but that costs $99 Undecided
Is that in any way affiliated with the now-defunct IRC network and programming team that used to host United-TI IRC channel? Huh? They were called Dragon-Fire Programming.
I was googling the subject, and I found a bunch of "make an app in 5 easy steps" tutorials, where you come up with an idea, and hire a programmer to make the app, so you wouldn't need to buy a mac. Also, if you wanted, you could use OSx86 to install OSX on a PC.
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« Reply #33 on: 24 November, 2010, 05:54:39 »
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Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on 24 November, 2010, 05:52:23
Do you mean like a post notifier or something?
Sure. I guess. I was thinking more like a mobile version of the site.
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« Reply #34 on: 24 November, 2010, 05:55:02 »
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Quote from: fb39ca4 on 24 November, 2010, 05:53:09
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on 24 November, 2010, 05:45:09
Quote from: calcforth on 24 November, 2010, 01:21:22
Quote from: Builderboy on 23 November, 2010, 23:16:03
They are not forced to charge money, they can make it charge whatever they want ^^ you do have to pay for the SDK though Sad
Actually it's free - but it only works with MacOS. The problem here is not cost, it's question of control. The SDK is free, but you can not distribute programs developed with it except via AppStore and Apple keeps the right to kick anything from it at any time. Basically you are Apple slave and Apple decides if you projects lives or dies.
Ew this sucks. Basically, if I decide to develop apps for the Iphone, I need to pay myself a new computer OS? I sure hope it's possible to install Mac OS on any computer, now, not just their overpriced machines, otherwise I would be surprised if a lot of people developed apps distributed for free. X.x

Personally, I have no plan to develop apps for iPhone. I would rather prefer developing for a more open device or the computer. Right now I have no plan to do so, though, so I'm sticking to my good ol' 83+ calculator. Tongue
Quote from: Eeems on 24 November, 2010, 04:53:33
winChain is apparently not updated frequently enough. But it can work. The best way that I know would be DragonFire SDK, but that costs $99 Undecided
Is that in any way affiliated with the now-defunct IRC network and programming team that used to host United-TI IRC channel? Huh? They were called Dragon-Fire Programming.
I was googling the subject, and I found a bunch of "make an app in 5 easy steps" tutorials, where you come up with an idea, and hire a programmer to make the app, so you wouldn't need to buy a mac. Also, if you wanted, you could use OSx86 to install OSX on a PC.
Ah, right. Although then you need to make sure the person can be trusted.

Quote from: graphmastur on 24 November, 2010, 05:54:39
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on 24 November, 2010, 05:52:23
Do you mean like a post notifier or something?
Sure. I guess. I was thinking more like a mobile version of the site.
Ah ok I see. We already have a mobile version, but it's very limited.
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« Reply #35 on: 24 November, 2010, 06:01:57 »
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Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on 24 November, 2010, 05:45:09
Ew this sucks. Basically, if I decide to develop apps for the Iphone, I need to pay myself a new computer OS?
Nope - you need to pay for a new computer.

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on 24 November, 2010, 05:45:09
I sure hope it's possible to install Mac OS on any computer, now, not just their overpriced machines, otherwise I would be surprised if a lot of people developed apps distributed for free. X.x
Bingo! Some people have computer aqlready and some don't think $699 (for Mac Mini) is such a big deal, but yes, you need a Mac, and yes, it means physical computer.

Quote from: Eeems on 24 November, 2010, 04:53:33
winChain is apparently not updated frequently enough. But it can work. The best way that I know would be DragonFire SDK, but that costs $99 Undecided
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Can I submit my App to the Apple App Store?
Yes! Your final App is compiled on a Mac and ready for the App Store.
There are many ways to develop app for iPhone without Mac, but if you want to distribute it... it's different story. You can probably borrow Mac from you Macophile friend (if you have one), but you really need it if you want to sell (or just distribute) iPhone App.
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« Reply #36 on: 24 November, 2010, 06:04:04 »
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Ouch, no way to dual-boot either, I guess?
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« Reply #37 on: 24 November, 2010, 06:06:06 »
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Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on 24 November, 2010, 06:04:04
Ouch, no way to dual-boot either, I guess?
I can dual boot windows with "boot camp" on my mac, but you can't boot mac from your windows.
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« Reply #38 on: 24 November, 2010, 06:30:29 »
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Quote from: graphmastur on 24 November, 2010, 06:06:06
I can dual boot windows with "boot camp" on my mac, but you can't boot mac from your windows.
Yup. That's because Microsoft is convinced monopoly abuser and so it was forced to concede some of it's control. Apple is 100 times worse WRT to abuses, but it's not a monopoly so it gets away with such tying. We'll see what happens. Apple was lucky so far, but next time may be different.
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« Reply #39 on: 24 November, 2010, 08:03:30 »
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Ouch, no way to dual-boot either, I guess?
I can dual boot windows with "boot camp" on my mac, but you can't boot mac from your windows.
Actually you can, but you would violate the license by installing Mac OS on a PC.
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« Reply #40 on: 24 November, 2010, 08:24:55 »
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I don't know what to say about them now...
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« Reply #41 on: 24 November, 2010, 15:50:56 »
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Quote from: juju2143 on 24 November, 2010, 08:03:30
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Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on 24 November, 2010, 06:04:04
Ouch, no way to dual-boot either, I guess?
I can dual boot windows with "boot camp" on my mac, but you can't boot mac from your windows.
Actually you can, but you would violate the license by installing Mac OS on a PC.
Yeah, the license agreement says that OSX may only be installed on "Apple branded" hardware. It would be epic if someone installed OSX in vmware, running in a bootcamp installation of windows.
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