Axiom Requests

[Geekboy1011]

I'm not sure if you realize that you just posted a link to the "normal post" icon for threads.....

uhh fail......

[Hayleia]

Maybe a Power coder could make an Axiom to write to flash without using the Unarchive/Archive command, but with unlocking ROM and all (of course, the Axiom would lock it back after writing to it).
This may not be faster than Unarchiving/Archiving but would be useful for a game that has a huge savegame, if it is run on a regular 83+ (with not a lot of ROM) to avoid GarbageCollecting.

[calc84maniac]

Maybe a Power coder could make an Axiom to write to flash without using the Unarchive/Archive command, but with unlocking ROM and all (of course, the Axiom would lock it back after writing to it).
This may not be faster than Unarchiving/Archiving but would be useful for a game that has a huge savegame, if it is run on a regular 83+ (with not a lot of ROM) to avoid GarbageCollecting.

You can't write a savegame over the last savegame in flash. You have to put it in a currently unused flash area (which is exactly what Archive does)

[Hayleia]

You can't write a savegame over the last savegame in flash. You have to put it in a currently unused flash area (which is exactly what Archive does)

Not even by rewriting the whole flash page where the savegame is ?

I mean you copy the page somewhere somehow, then replace the savegame in your copy, then copy the modified copied page onto the old page.

[DJ Omnimaga]

When Axioms are released, do they automatically get included by default with newer Axe releases?

[Link]

When Axioms are released, do they automatically get included by default with newer Axe releases?

I don't think so, it's possible they might get included in the future, but I had to download mine separately.
Perhaps they could do something like #include <stdio.h> like in C? but instead for axioms?

[ZippyDee]

Axioms would not be included as part of the app file itself. Axe needs that space for other improvements to the language, not to store Axioms. Since the axioms are basically third-party plugins to Axe, I'd say they'll probably stay as separately downloadable files. There may be a few really commonly useful Axioms that might find their way into the download files at some point, but I don't think there will ever be a comprehensive set of all released Axioms in the releases themselves.

[Hayleia]

I think DJ_O's question was more "are new Axioms included in the zip", not "are new Axioms included in Axe". I may be wrong though. Anyway, in both cases the answer is "no"

Perhaps they could do something like #include <stdio.h> like in C? but instead for axioms?

Well, that's how they currently work, no ?
You have to do #Axiom(TEXT) to include the commands from the TEXT Axiom, isn't it what you want ?

[133794m3r]

OK, something that I need is an InData that actually checks the data, not just strings. InData's great and all for strings, but I need one for actual data. I've tried writing my own out, but it never seems to evaluate. I'm going to post it in the help pages, but still having that function would be greatly appreciated. Also if it returned 65535 if it wasn't found instead of 0(as the data is 0 indexed) would also be greatly appreciated.

[squidgetx]

In memory, there is no difference between "actual data" and "strings" in Axe. "HELLO WORLD" is literally equivalent to [48454C4C4F20574F524C44] which is also equivalent to Data(72,69,76,76,79,32,87,79,82,76,68)

[Freyaday]

In memory, there is no difference between "actual data" and "strings" in Axe. "HELLO WORLD" is literally equivalent to [48454C4C4F20574F524C4400] which is also equivalent to Data(72,69,76,76,79,32,87,79,82,76,68,0)

Fixed it for you: Axe automatically adds ending NULs to the end of strings.

[Sorunome]

Just noticed this topic and i happen to have an axiom request: Allow AppVariables to be executed from flash!
So propably similar to pageswap then only that it uses appvars.

[Freyaday]

Just noticed this topic and i happen to have an axiom request: Allow AppVariables to be executed from flash!
So propably similar to pageswap then only that it uses appvars.

Why appvars? Why not programs?

[Sorunome]

because appvars are more invisible to the end user

[DrDnar]

The runprgm Axiom lets you convert an assembly/Axe program into an appvar, and execute it. The only difference between a program and an appvar is the type byte, so it was easy functionality to implement. Of course, the program is still copied to RAM and run from RAM. Executing an appvar in flash without coping it to RAM is just too much of a headache, due to both the need to change the execution permissions (requires unlocking flash), and the fact that the location would be variable and might cross page boundries. If you really want execution from flash, use an application.