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« Reply #705 on: 09 March, 2012, 23:51:35 »
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Quote from: kindermoumoute on 09 March, 2012, 19:17:11
Quote from: Hayleia on 09 March, 2012, 18:28:32
Also, will zStart support 5 character labels in the label menu ?
Same request, will this feature added soon ? :s

Probably not. To be honest, that label menu is one of the things in the app that takes up the most space, and going to 5 characters would actually require quite a change. It might be possible, I'm not positive, but 5 letter sorting will definitely never happen (probably 200 byte addition).
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« Reply #706 on: 11 March, 2012, 06:21:54 »
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Quote from: thepenguin77 on 09 March, 2012, 23:51:35
Quote from: kindermoumoute on 09 March, 2012, 19:17:11
Quote from: Hayleia on 09 March, 2012, 18:28:32
Also, will zStart support 5 character labels in the label menu ?
Same request, will this feature added soon ? :s

Probably not. To be honest, that label menu is one of the things in the app that takes up the most space, and going to 5 characters would actually require quite a change. It might be possible, I'm not positive, but 5 letter sorting will definitely never happen (probably 200 byte addition).
Does anyone actually use the Sort for labels?  I've never used it, and although I think it's really cool, I personally find it unnecessary.

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I can't read 8 lvl grayscales pics on my 83+. Cry
shocked I can on mine (with 1.3.007 at least).

Do you actually want that? I can do it. It's just that it does corrupt your ram.
How much RAM would it take?  Couldn't you have it check to see if there's that much RAM free and only run the picture if it's safe to do so?
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« Reply #707 on: 11 March, 2012, 08:31:05 »
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Quote from: ztrumpet on 11 March, 2012, 06:21:54
Quote from: thepenguin77 on 09 March, 2012, 23:51:35
Quote from: kindermoumoute on 09 March, 2012, 19:17:11
Quote from: Hayleia on 09 March, 2012, 18:28:32
Also, will zStart support 5 character labels in the label menu ?
Same request, will this feature added soon ? :s

Probably not. To be honest, that label menu is one of the things in the app that takes up the most space, and going to 5 characters would actually require quite a change. It might be possible, I'm not positive, but 5 letter sorting will definitely never happen (probably 200 byte addition).
Does anyone actually use the Sort for labels?  I've never used it, and although I think it's really cool, I personally find it unnecessary.
I do. It is really useful when you code in Axe and you want to skip all the data at the beginning or go to a specific routine in your code.

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« Reply #708 on: 11 March, 2012, 23:54:56 »
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Same here. I use it all the time. Smiley
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« Reply #709 on: 11 March, 2012, 23:59:50 »
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But the question is, do you need the labels to be alphabetically sorted? Or will a list in order of appearance work fine?
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« Reply #710 on: 12 March, 2012, 00:00:46 »
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But the question is, do you need the labels to be alphabetically sorted? Or will a list in order of appearance work fine?
Order of appearance is the best IMO.
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« Reply #711 on: 12 March, 2012, 00:03:16 »
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Quote from: parser padwan on 12 March, 2012, 00:00:46
Quote from: Runer112 on 11 March, 2012, 23:59:50
But the question is, do you need the labels to be alphabetically sorted? Or will a list in order of appearance work fine?
Order of appearance is the best IMO.

I would be inclined to agree. I usually like to add my labels/subroutines in a logical order, and alphabetic sorting would probably make it harder for me to find label that I'm looking for.
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« Reply #712 on: 12 March, 2012, 00:06:40 »
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Same here.
my sorting is like this:

data here     with labels for easy editing
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« Reply #713 on: 12 March, 2012, 01:34:31 »
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But the question is, do you need the labels to be alphabetically sorted? Or will a list in order of appearance work fine?
Order of appearance is the best IMO.

I would be inclined to agree. I usually like to add my labels/subroutines in a logical order, and alphabetic sorting would probably make it harder for me to find label that I'm looking for.

They aren't currently sorted. Slightly confused lol


But the real question, should the auto-complete in the Lbl menu stay? It is quite large, but if some people swear by it, I'll keep it.

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shocked I can on mine (with 1.3.007 at least).

Do you actually want that? I can do it. It's just that it does corrupt your ram.
How much RAM would it take?  Couldn't you have it check to see if there's that much RAM free and only run the picture if it's safe to do so?

Yeah, I can make that work. When I start adding 83+ specific stuff, I can do that. I'll just make an appvar.
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« Reply #714 on: 17 March, 2012, 00:16:59 »
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Bug reports:
On+Del from program editor says "Err:Undefined"
Sometimes compiling from On+# has the program name displayed at compile-time messed up (finished with junk tokens), happens about half the time

Both dealing with archived source, btw

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« Reply #715 on: 17 March, 2012, 21:26:08 »
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i get the ERR:UNDEFINED too, but only when editing programs in RAM.
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« Reply #716 on: 26 March, 2012, 05:39:55 »
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More random bugs, nothing really crippling tho.
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« Reply #717 on: 30 March, 2012, 07:02:40 »
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Yet another bug report Tongue
-pressing "prgm" while in program editor should lead to a token menu (whatever it is called).
-pressing "prgm" while in homescreen should lead to the program list.
Now, in program editor, pressing apps then clear does basically nothing but makes that pressing "prgm" (while in program editor) leads to the program list instead of the token menu.

(see screenshot, everything happen in the program editor. You see that the first time I press "prgm", everything is normal but the second time is wrong).

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« Reply #718 on: 30 March, 2012, 17:50:54 »
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Quote from: Hayleia on 30 March, 2012, 07:02:40
Yet another bug report Tongue
-pressing "prgm" while in program editor should lead to a token menu (whatever it is called).
-pressing "prgm" while in homescreen should lead to the program list.
Now, in program editor, pressing apps then clear does basically nothing but makes that pressing "prgm" (while in program editor) leads to the program list instead of the token menu.

(see screenshot, everything happen in the program editor. You see that the first time I press "prgm", everything is normal but the second time is wrong).

I've noticed this bug as well. But this is the fault of Omnicalc's quick apps feature, not zStart. And since Omnicalc is a dead project and won't be updated, I don't think it can/will be fixed. Sad
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« Reply #719 on: 30 March, 2012, 18:13:14 »
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Another request:
Could you write an updated readme, please?
I don't really feel like trawling through 48 pages to find every single function(even only the key shortcuts would be nice)
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