Linux

[graphmastur]

I'm trying out openSUSE right now, and I kinda like it.

[Munchor]

I'm trying out openSUSE right now, and I kinda like it.

I have tried openSUSE at school and it's just ok. period.

[graphmastur]

I'm trying out openSUSE right now, and I kinda like it.

I have tried openSUSE at school and it's just ok. period.

Yeah, well, I tried out 11.04 on ubuntu, and it just kinda failed miserably, because I can't use unity.  I'm going to change to something else soon, though.

[Munchor]

Ubuntu 11.04 Beta has a terrible bug! wxPython menubars don't show up on Ubuntu Classic.

[graphmastur]

Ubuntu 11.04 Beta has a terrible bug! wxPython menubars don't show up on Ubuntu Classic.

I'm sure it has more than one atm.

[Munchor]

Ubuntu 11.04 Beta has a terrible bug! wxPython menubars don't show up on Ubuntu Classic.

I'm sure it has more than one atm.

I didn't meant it only has one... But that one is terrible for me. I have reported it though so I'm sure they'll fix it.

[graphmastur]

Ubuntu 11.04 Beta has a terrible bug! wxPython menubars don't show up on Ubuntu Classic.

I'm sure it has more than one atm.

I didn't meant it only has one... But that one is terrible for me. I have reported it though so I'm sure they'll fix it.

I find it weird how it has so many bugs just starting out, though, ya know?  I might try out Debian next.

[shmibs]

EDIT: a little bit ninja'd there... stick this in before scout and graph's list of comments

i may be wrong, but i think the "new gui" you're showing there is just the netbook version of 11.04 which uses Unity rather than the desktop edition.

if you decide on ubuntu, it's probably a better idea to wait until 11.04 is released in five days rather than start with 10.10 and upgrade (unless you don't intend to upgrade, that is). after installing you will have to get Ubuntu restricted extras, a package which gives support for stuffs with restricted copyrights (like mp3, avi, java, flash, etc). for customising, firstly you should choose which desktop environment you want (ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, etc). if you end up chosing ubuntu, which uses gnome, then a great place to go for themes and such is gnome art. there are plenty of other spots around the web which offer icons and things as well, so a few minutes of work can easily get you something like this:

[alberthrocks]

Scout, I wish, but looking at Ubuntu's record of fixing bugs, I'm going to say this won't be fixed until after it's released, when masses start screaming at the Ubuntu developers. I don't think they'll live for another release...

Shmibs, this is untrue. The reason why there's so much controversy surrounding this release is because the *desktop* version (not just the netbook, the DESKTOP) has Unity set as the default desktop shell. Lots of fun, eh? This stupidity has occurred a while ago, and has prompted me to move to Linux Mint, where the developers there value stability over design and fanciness.
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I can see Ubuntu falling off a cliff on April 28th. The backlash is going to be massive, and Ubuntu's going to slip from that sweet #1 position on Distrowatch. Nice job Canonical for screwing up what could've been something that could compete against Mac OSX and Windows 7.

Of course, there's always going to be another good one to take their place... *cough* MINT LINUX *cough*
Personally, I would avoid Fedora (it's crashy by nature), and take either Debian (you should be experienced!), openSuSE (not a bad choice), or my other personal favorite, Puppy! (experience is recommended as well) Puppy is a go-anywhere distro (not that the others won't do the same, since the kernel autoloads modules per device), and is very snappy fast. If you're looking for something more permanent (and not insecure, as it uses root), Linux Mint is my recommendation.

To be fair, Linux Mint does base itself off Ubuntu, sans stupidity (like the massive GUI changes and unstablility) and some additional tools and functionality as well. Though, they are planning to move away (LMDE, anyone?) and hopefully switch to Debian, or maybe even a separate distro on its own!

[Juju]

Yeah, I heard from a friend they were to switch to Debian. That could be nice.

[Eeems]

I've heard about the switch to debian too.

I recommend Linux Mint as well, I'm using it on two (well now one since I accidentally fried the CPU on my desktop) computers, and the setup was really easy and most of the stuff I needed came pre-installed so I was immediatly able to start working on customizing instead of finding all the drivers etc.

Later on if you want the challenge I would also recommend Arch, which personally I love, but since I found it harder to manage my space with I moved away from.

[Munchor]

@Eeems: I thought you'd suggesting using OmnimagaOS

[graphmastur]

Yeah, I wish we had an LFS for OmnimagOS.

[willrandship]

If you're already semi-comfortable wiht linux, I recommend Linux Mint Debian edition. It installs like normal, but has all the Ubuntu stuff torn out, it's all debian. Also, rolling release.

Only complaint I've ever had with mint: Python Menu loads very slow when certain things are in it. Otherwise, swap out said menu with another (takes ~3 seconds ) and it's fine.

I think OmnimagaOS should be debian based, personally. The RPM system is less intuitive in my experience, than apt-get and dpkg. LFS can do debian-based stuff, I think, or at least have the package support.

[Eeems]

Yeah, I wish we had an LFS for OmnimagOS.

If it were usable I would, but it's nowhere near that place yet

I think OmnimagaOS should be debian based, personally. The RPM system is less intuitive in my experience, than apt-get and dpkg. LFS can do debian-based stuff, I think, or at least have the package support.

Actually it's going to be Arch based if I remember correctly, Juju had taken over, but I don't know if he has done much with it yet.