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Calculator Community => OTcalc => Discontinued => Major Community Projects => [OTcalc] Z80-Hardware => Topic started by: alberthrocks on August 19, 2010, 01:19:56 am
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As the title says: Mini USB or regular USB?
Vote in the above poll. :)
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Would the male regular USB to male regular USB be included? That way, a simple fenale-female plug could handle if you wanted to plug something in to the calc.
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I think that a cable to convert it should be included, but a standard usb would bloat the calculator unnecessarily.
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/\agreed
standard usb is convenient, but we want the entire apparatus to be convenient to carry as well :P
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both!
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Yeah, and throw in a SATA slot, too :P
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Eh, no. I think it should support mini usb a and b.
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Don't forget HDMI!
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and floppy disks!
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@graphmastur
That's exactly what the 84+ has, an OTG port. An OTG port supports A and B
If we only have one usb, there's no point in going full size if we need a special cable. Might as well go mini for that. Plus, A to A cables are a bad idea, because people will try to plug two computers together, which could kill both USB ports with shorting. We could always have two, one mini-a, one full size, just for convenience.
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If you're going to go OTG, will it be a miniUSB or microUSB port?
The miniUSB port is officially deprecated, but the microUSB cables are considerably more expensive (and I have yet to find a microA to A cable at a reasonable price).
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Mini USB, afaik, is NOT deprecated. Maybe the standards say so, but pretty much all of the new cameras use that, plus some other USB peripherals.
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Microusb OTG ports fit both micro-A and B, so why not get a male micro-a to male micro-b?
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As long as we make sure to not use stuff that will be phased out the year after, I guess it should be fine. It would suck if for example we used mini-USB then it became impossible to find mini USB calbes in stores anymore or if Windows stopped supporting this format.
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Well, there are micro-B to A cables, like the one that comes with the 84+(SE), and neither Windows nor any other OS could tell whether the other end was mini-B, micro-B, or B. As for the cables possibly becoming deprecated, there's not much we can do there. IMO, though, the normal A and B female sockets are just too large for a calc.
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Well, we need to make sure it remains easy to get them in the future, though. If they ever get discontinued, maybe they'll be more expensive to find or produce.
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Mini USB should live for a while, no worries. :) Cameras and many other USB devices use it still.
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The other option we have is microUSB but I'm not sure if you can have microUSB be a host like you can with Mini-A USB ports.
Edit: A quick Wikipedia check says that MicroUSB can indeed be a host but cables that would allow such use are much harder to find.
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MicroUSB, eh? So tiny... :P
Depends though. I still see quite a bit of MiniUSB plugs on the market. ;)
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Aah ok, I guess MiniUSB might be the best
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A regular USB port shouldn't add too much to the size, though, would it? It's a lot thinner than a TI-83 :P
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What about the internal part of the USB support hardware? Idk much about hardware, though.
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MicroUSB, eh? So tiny... :P
It's actually just a thinner plug, I believe.
A regular USB port shouldn't add too much to the size, though, would it? It's a lot thinner than a TI-83 :P
Yeah, but would it be practical? I'm thinking that an OTG port for mini usb would be the most practical. Maybe a mini-A to female usb cable?
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MicroUSB, eh? So tiny... :P
It's actually just a thinner plug, I believe.
A regular USB port shouldn't add too much to the size, though, would it? It's a lot thinner than a TI-83 :P
Yeah, but would it be practical? I'm thinking that an OTG port for mini usb would be the most practical. Maybe a mini-A to female usb cable?
Oh, there's an adapter? In that case, mini-USB it is...
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MicroUSB, eh? So tiny... :P
It's actually just a thinner plug, I believe.
A regular USB port shouldn't add too much to the size, though, would it? It's a lot thinner than a TI-83 :P
Yeah, but would it be practical? I'm thinking that an OTG port for mini usb would be the most practical. Maybe a mini-A to female usb cable?
Oh, there's an adapter? In that case, mini-USB it is...
Yeah: http://www.vernier.com/images/products/usb-mini_web.jpg
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Mini-A? Wouldn't mini-B stuff be more popular, like on 84s?
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The 84 has a Mini-AB port(It accepts A and B devices, A in Host mode, B in Slave mode.)
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Yes, that's why we'll probably use an OTG port where both are acceptable.