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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #120 on: August 14, 2010, 12:44:42 pm »
Idk if I am too late but I agree with happybobjr.

On an unrelated note, I think the Casio FX-9750G Plus is around $60-70 online, but where I live, it used to be sold at $50 in 2006-07 and $25 later. It has a slower processor than the 83+ but faster than the 81. It has 28 KB of user RAM but no archive and no ASM capabilities. As for the FX-9860G series, it ranges around $90-100, has a 29 MHz processor that can be clocked up to 58 MHz, according to what I saw somewhere online, 64 KB user RAM and 1.5 MB of flash memory. There are models with a SD card slot too. This should give you an idea of how Casio calc prices stand among TI's.
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #121 on: August 14, 2010, 01:07:21 pm »
@alberthrocks

I don't think we should close down this topic. We only have decied on the processor! I think we need to decide on the LCD, LCD driver,RAM, ROM, IO ports etc! Those are still undecided on, as you can see here: http://otcalc.wikidot.com/z80-hardware.

So i suggest we settle those first.
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #122 on: August 15, 2010, 09:42:34 am »
Okay so here is a massive list with some (G)LCD's (http://www.vishay.com/displays/lcd/). Whew, it took me ages to find someting like this. I found one greyscale GLCD at crystlafontz (http://www.crystalfontz.com/product/CFAL12864Z-G-B2.html), actually there is four of them, see the list here: http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/index-oled.html and scroll down to this section:128 x 64 dots, Solomon SSD1325 Controller. (< yes these are expensive @$50 pcs, but then again price lowers if you buy more of them)
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #123 on: August 15, 2010, 11:29:07 am »
Idea suggestion closed! :) Discussion may continue for exact specs and such though, so continue on! ;)

This is what I caught:
- Better keys/durability
- Backlit screen with ability to turn off the light
- If going with the 3.5 mm headphone jack, it shouldn't be advertised as a headphone jack, but sound should be supported by the OS and will be easy to put in programs.
- Preloaded with Axe and math programs
- Batteries charge when plugged into the computer (AA rechargeable ones, that is, plus a setting if battery type is unknown)
- Don't look too much like the TI-8x series (but enough for usability for students and compatibility with teachers)
- Calculus support (??) (Note: Derivatives, etc. maybe?)
- 3D graphing (??) (Note: Good idea, but that's firmware side, which a new topic will be opened up soon.)
- Touch pad vs arrow keys
- Emulators
- Battery indicator light (??) (Please clarify!)
- Cheap prices

I will be adding these to the list shortly.
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@matthias1992: No, this topic won't be closed at all. Suggestions are now closed, but we will discuss details in here, esp. after the vote to get a clear idea of exactly what the final hardware is and what we will be placing in.

As for the grayscale screen, please remember that we don't want a $50 screen. It's a third of the TI-84+ SE price! And we're trying to beat them with a cheap price. Of course, we want a good, responsive, grayscale screen, but nothing that is expensive. We're certainly not doing OLED screens (as you linked to), nor anything colored. The backlight itself is under debate as well.

For this: http://www.vishay.com/displays/lcd/
You are looking for the graphic displays, not the character based ones.

I prefer using a trustworthy website to order parts. Not that these aren't, but I like to be a little cautious as well.
That said, DigiKey and Mouser are very good suppliers. If you're hunting for LCDs,
I suggest using Mouser first. Unless you don't mind doing some serious googling (DigiKey doesn't want to show anything unless you know what you want), Mouser is good.

Mouser: http://www.mouser.com/Optoelectronics/Displays/LCD-Displays/_/N-6j735?Keyword=LCD&FS=True
DigiKey: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Cat=524918&k=LCD

Oh, and do note the LCD controllers as well.
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #124 on: August 15, 2010, 05:45:28 pm »
we can't forget about the ability to change the contrast.  (note: not a suggestion, just a reminder...)
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #125 on: August 15, 2010, 06:09:55 pm »
As for keys, one thing is that we should try to not make them hard to press, nor too easy. On the TI-Nspire 84+SE keypad, you need to press arrow keys hard enough for contact to be done. However, it would be as bad if keys were so easy to press that we accidentally pressed them all the time.
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #126 on: August 15, 2010, 07:59:31 pm »
As for the battery indicator light: Many devices that use batteries have some sort of light that indicates remaining power. IE: it is green at high charge, and turns red when you have low battery life remaining.

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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #127 on: August 16, 2010, 10:31:32 am »
I prefer more indicators, like very high, high, medium, low, very low, critical.

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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #128 on: August 16, 2010, 11:17:01 am »
true, but i would only want.  high. medium. low. dangerously low (10 min remaining or so.)
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #129 on: August 16, 2010, 01:20:18 pm »
How about just a battery bar?

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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #130 on: August 16, 2010, 01:27:06 pm »
isn't that what we were thinking?
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #131 on: August 16, 2010, 01:29:59 pm »
Weren'tyou guys talking about a battery light?

As for the battery indicator light: Many devices that use batteries have some sort of light that indicates remaining power.

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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #132 on: August 16, 2010, 01:30:47 pm »
i wasn't but they might have :P
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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #133 on: August 16, 2010, 05:52:56 pm »
@Builderboy: yea, a battery bar could work fine too. That might be better actually, as it wouldn't require additional hardware.

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Re: eZ80 Hardware Discussion
« Reply #134 on: August 17, 2010, 12:07:52 am »
@Builderboy: yea, a battery bar could work fine too. That might be better actually, as it wouldn't require additional hardware.
besides, if you really wanted a battery light, it probably wouldn't be that hard to mod the calculator to have one :P
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