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General Discussion => Other Discussions => Anime and Manga => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on June 17, 2012, 12:32:44 am

Title: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 17, 2012, 12:32:44 am: This isn't really an anime anymore since it's no longer co-produced by Japan, but only France this time, but since the original series was both anime and cartoon, I decided to put this here.

Anyway it seems Season 2 of MCOG2 will finally come to fruition, after a few years of wondering what happened to the project. I'm happy to see that the original character designs are kept, although Mendoza changed a bit and Kokapelt's parrot voice is way different, so it might take a while to get used to, but it looks quite great and despite the addition of special effects and some 3D graphics, it still seems to remain true to Season 1 graphically. I was a bit disappointed at the new Condor cockpit, though, which seems less detailled. I hope there will be some music besides the opening song that will grab some elements from the original season, though. So far it seems that most background music is way different than in the 1982 series, although I guess that can be understood considering they might try to put it to today's standard.

Anyway you can watch the preview below with English subtitles and I hope the story and content will match the previous season released 30 years ago:

From what I gather, season 2 will air this Summer, 30 years after Season 1, but I saw rumors about 2013 too. Season 3 would be the year afterward and 4 the next one after 3. Each new season are supposed to feature 2 cities of gold (the 1982 season featured 1)

In comparison, here are some clips and songs from season 1, to compare with season 2 above:
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: Hayleia on June 17, 2012, 12:18:22 pm: By the way, have you ever noticed this reference (see spoiler) in Pokemon Crystal ? ;)
Spoiler For Spoiler:
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/EnfantDuSoleil.png)

Back on topic, I never really got into this show, but I am still glad they didn't change everything :)
I hate when they do that, it kills all the spirit of the show.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 17, 2012, 07:12:08 pm: Is that really inside the game? O.O

And yeah I agree. But this show's spirit is a lot the music, which makes it even more special. It would kinda suck if the entire show became with standard movie/cartoon music. But of course I guess it will inevitably be a bit different than MCOG1 because season 1 was released at a time where music synthetisers started emerging and becoming popular. I wish they would re-use the remade versions of the songs for some parts of the show. http://citesdor.com/musiques/musiques_boub.php3
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: AzNg0d1030 on June 17, 2012, 07:51:32 pm: What does that say? Can you translate it?
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 17, 2012, 07:52:24 pm: The video? Because it has english subs ???

Make sure to have annotations and/or captions enabled there and that you use a computer.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: willrandship on June 17, 2012, 08:23:04 pm: I think he meant the pokemon screenies.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: Hayleia on June 18, 2012, 12:20:54 pm: Quote from: DJ_O on June 17, 2012, 07:12:08 pm
Is that really inside the game? O.O
Yes. I recognized it even without being a fan of MCOG because I often put the TV on without watching when I am alone, and I hear the music of the opening :)
(thanks to DJ_O for telling me how to say "opening" in English, below ;))

Quote from: AzNg0d1030 on June 17, 2012, 07:51:32 pm
What does that say? Can you translate it?
That would mean, approximately
"Child of the sun, you travel around the earth and the sky...
Look for your path, it's your life, it's your destiny."
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: AzNg0d1030 on June 18, 2012, 08:57:30 pm: Ah thank you for translating. I suppose this quote appears in the anime?
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 18, 2012, 11:47:39 pm: Haleya Générique means Opening. And Azn those lyrics are in the opening.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: TIfanx1999 on June 19, 2012, 02:48:48 am: The new series looks quite nice. I wonder if Ocean group (based in Vancouver) will do an english dub of this?
In regards to the original music, it was composed by <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuki_Levy>Shuki Levy</a>. He's pretty well know for his work in the 80's and especially <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_Gadget>Inspector Gadget</a>. I agree that his music is quite nice and distinctive. It would be nice to hear him contribute to the new series, but at a glance it looks as though he hasn't done anything recently.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: AzNg0d1030 on June 20, 2012, 10:15:37 pm: Quote from: DJ_O on June 18, 2012, 11:47:39 pm
Haleya Générique means Opening. And Azn those lyrics are in the opening.
:o
I see now
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 20, 2012, 11:28:35 pm: Quote from: Art_of_camelot on June 19, 2012, 02:48:48 am
The new series looks quite nice. I wonder if Ocean group (based in Vancouver) will do an english dub of this?
In regards to the original music, it was composed by <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuki_Levy>Shuki Levy</a>. He's pretty well know for his work in the 80's and especially <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_Gadget>Inspector Gadget</a>. I agree that his music is quite nice and distinctive. It would be nice to hear him contribute to the new series, but at a glance it looks as though he hasn't done anything recently.
Was Ocean group the ones who did the english dub of the original season that can be found on Youtube (or used to be there)? If so, then I hope they don't. That english dub made Zero Wing looks pretty well translated.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: TIfanx1999 on June 21, 2012, 12:25:09 am: I doubt they did the original, but they were responsible for the canadian dub (and original US dub of the first few seasons) of dragonballz. They also did Inuyasha, Xmen evolution and Deathnote just to name a few. They are well respected and do good work. If it is in their hands we have no wories. =)
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 15, 2013, 03:54:18 am: It's finally out and airing in France, and I think Télé-Québec will air it soon. I caught a few episodes on Youtube (not posting links since they're gonna be taken down within days anyway) :D

I only saw the first episode so far and it doesn't seem as bad as some people said, but we can notice some differences that might displease hardcore fans of the original series, especially older people. So far I like it, though.

-First of all, apparently this season was aimed more towards kids and teens rather than the family. However there are still fights, gunfights and sword fights. I think what they meant is that it was just made so the story can be understood easier than the previous series. However the story still seems really great and true to the original so far.

-The character drawings are quite similar to the originals, but some (particularly Mendoza) are slightly less quality (maybe due to being more CG-animated). MUCH better than the 2006 thing by AK Video et BenJ Productions.

-The soundtrack isn't the same, except the opening which is the same. However, while the opening remake is bad (IMHO), the rest of the soundtrack has a similar style as the original, making use of synthetisers and similar instruments

-Kokapelt/Pichou (sp?) voice is annoying in this sequel lol. I am surprised at how similar other voices are, though, considering it has been 30 years since the original season. O.O

But yeah so far I am pleased with it. It just probably will never match the 1982 original. :P
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Post by: JamesV on May 15, 2013, 04:02:04 am: Wow! I still vividly remember spending my early childhood years with friends running around the school yard pretending that we were piloting the Golden Condor!
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 15, 2013, 05:10:10 am: Dj, do you know if this is a dual language release, or is it just in french?
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: Streetwalrus on May 15, 2013, 10:48:23 am: It's awesome they're continuing it. I saw the DVDs with my sister and loved it.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 15, 2013, 12:52:47 pm: Quote from: Art_of_camelot on May 15, 2013, 05:10:10 am
Dj, do you know if this is a dual language release, or is it just in french?
Only French for now.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 15, 2013, 12:58:46 pm: Ah, ok. Thanks for the info. I wonder if it will get an English dub eventually?
*edit* When I search for Mysterious cites of gold season 2, this thread is my fourth result from Lord Google sama. :D
*edit2*
Quote from: wikipedia
The voices for the English language version are currently being recorded in Paris under the direction of voice director, Matthew Géczy.
\o/ Guess I should go watch the old series now and catch up. :)
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 15, 2013, 01:14:30 pm: I wouldn't be surprised if it did. The original was in Japanese and French but got translated to English a few years later. I think it aired in 1986 in UK and USA. I hope the English voices are true to the originals, but that the translation is better.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 15, 2013, 01:15:52 pm: The translation should be fine. Things have come a long way since 1986. :) Who knows what they'll do for the voices though.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: Hayleia on May 15, 2013, 04:14:30 pm: Also, is this a direct sequel to the previous season ? Or are they somehow starting something new with the same characters, like a new quest or something ? I mean, do we actually have to have seen the previous season to understand this one ?
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 15, 2013, 05:58:20 pm: Yeah it's a direct sequel. However it occurs 6 months after the original season ended. Actually in early episodes we even see a scene from season 1 with the great priest of the city of gold but I won't spoil the rest. The scene was completely redone from scratch, but in it you can see how true to the original season 2 is despite the minor flaws.

In season 1 the two kids seek for their respective father and find the 1st city of gold in South America. In season 2 they go on a quest to find the remaining 6 cities of gold, their first stop being China. IIRC season 2, 3 and 4 will feature 2 cities of gold each, but I don't remember if they visit Japan in season 2.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 26, 2013, 02:17:56 am: This is not really on the topic of season 2, but they have now started a manga version of the 1st season O.O

http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/serie/Mysterieuses-citees-dor

It's made in France, but uses Japan manga style and so far it seems kinda nice. The only downside, though, is that they removed some story elements or moved them elsewhere into flashbacks (for example, the manga starts straight into episode 2 on the boat, with a flashback 10 years before where Mendoza saved Esteban in the sea, then later there is another flashback to episode 1, where Father Rodriguez dies and stuff), so the anime is definitively better. I guess they just tried to cram as many episodes as possible in one book (this one includes the first 7 episodes that were 20 minutes each) or they decided to put more focus on certain elements instead.
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: TIfanx1999 on July 30, 2013, 01:14:15 pm: Usually it's the other way around (where the manga comes first). Regardless, it's rare that an anime and manga match up exactly. I've no idea why the do that...
Title: Re: The Mysterious Cities of Gold Season 2
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 30, 2013, 08:13:25 pm: Indeed, although I think in Pokémon's case, the mangas came afterward too. In MCOG's case, though, one reason why the manga might not match up is because the 1st season of the anime was a co-French-Japanese production rather than purely Japanese, so it has plenty of European cartoon elements and fewer anime elements, like those scrolling backgrounds they use to create a speed effect. The Manga is purely French, but inspired at 100% from Japanese ones, so they tried to make MCOG less cartoon-ish in it.

Also you have to take in account that the anime was made 30 years before the manga, so they probably felt that some stuff needed to be moved around due to being less important or to remove long parts.