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Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« on: April 23, 2011, 11:45:08 pm »
The new rewrite of XDE uses its own font (in sprites) since that makes it so much easier to manipulate text, and that means 223 (0x01 to 0xDF) new sprites. I already have a set of capitals I'm testing with, but they suck:



So if anyone has the time, this is a request for an entire font set of 223 of the chars on a TI-83 Plus. They should be 4x6 monochrome (no fancy grayscale fonts) and look good in the context of the mockup above. And don't overdo it, please; Courier New is an awesome monospaced font but the serifs are gonna be disastrous :P

And to avoid wasting your time, you can just post your version of a couple chars so we can offer suggestions before you do the rest.

Thanks in advance for any help! I'll make sure to credit you for it -- it's a big part of the project.

All the chars are available here.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2011, 07:31:39 pm by Deep Thought »




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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 11:47:23 pm »
Hmm, I can try. I think you should take a cobbled-together version of whatever comes in, since I can't make them all :P So, numbers, Caps and Lowercase? Any symbols? you'll need ^r, right?

Edit: Argh, this sucks :P Nothing fits except r, i and L.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2011, 11:55:59 pm by willrandship »

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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2011, 11:53:26 pm »
Hmm, I can try. I think you should take a cobbled-together version of whatever comes in, since I can't make them all :P So, numbers, Caps and Lowercase? Any symbols? you'll need ^r, right?

All of 0x01 to 0xDF, actually (listed here). Blame the T command :P

Thanks for any help!
« Last Edit: April 23, 2011, 11:53:33 pm by Deep Thought »




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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2011, 01:42:04 am »
this IS very difficult. i made a quick attempt at the top line, but they mostly look gross.

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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 01:44:25 am »
For BatLib I have a bunch of them finished because BatLib/ReCode uses a 4x6 font, too. I stopped at 7Fh, though. I will try to get a screeny of them... Also, there are a bunch of symbols I just skipped over, too.

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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2011, 02:59:04 am »
When you say 4x6, do you mean full 4x6 characters or 3x5 characters with a 1 pixel border on two sides? Because the screenshot you posted had 4x6 characters, but Xeda's character set is 3x5.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2011, 03:00:36 am by ZippyDee »
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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2011, 08:34:41 am »
Here's a sample of the font I made to use with zStart. I know some of them are 5x6, but I can easily change that, I just wanted to see what you guys thought.


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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 10:08:43 am »
this IS very difficult. i made a quick attempt at the top line, but they mostly look gross.

Yeah, it gets hard. Especially when you try to compress letters like 'm' into 4 columns :-\

When you say 4x6, do you mean full 4x6 characters or 3x5 characters with a 1 pixel border on two sides? Because the screenshot you posted had 4x6 characters, but Xeda's character set is 3x5.

Whoops, should have made that clear: It's 4x6 without the white border. Sorry Xeda.

Here's a sample of the font I made to use with zStart. I know some of them are 5x6, but I can easily change that, I just wanted to see what you guys thought.

The capitals do look almost entirely identical to mine O.O

Lowercase letters are much better than the ones I came up with though. Can we see your full font? A bit more tweaking (as you said, some of them are 5x6) and it'll be perfect :D




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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 10:51:59 am »
I did what I could with FinaleTI's font. Obviously the difficult ones are the ones like M and W that need the spacing to tell what they are :\ I also included some other characters, too. Do you want me to see if I can make an entire character set? Or at least as much as possible?

(Btw, I did this using Photoshop which is a terrible pixel editor, so I didn't worry about spacing between the other punctuation chars that I threw in there. Sorry if that causes issues for you.)


EDIT: Also, a while ago I made a fairly complete 3x4 font. I don't know if that would be at all useful to you. If so, I can dig it up and post it here. I also made a set of 3x3 numbers and capital letters, but that was just to challenge myself :P

EDIT #2: Here's a full 4x6 character set with no exclusions. Hope this helps. :D
« Last Edit: April 24, 2011, 01:48:52 pm by ZippyDee »
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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 02:02:36 pm »
I unfortunately left my calculator home today when we went out, so I can't work on the font right now.
I did do more than the letters and numbers, I actually have a good few symbols done, but I don't have all the characters in the set done yet.


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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2011, 02:05:19 pm »
Feel free to use symbols from my character set there. I'm sure many of them could be improved anyway though...
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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 02:07:26 pm »
Feel free to use symbols from my character set there. I'm sure many of them could be improved anyway though...
Thanks, I probably will, as some of those chars look pretty good.

Edit: Finished my additions. You don't have to use all of them, and most of the sheet is ZippyDee's stuff, as I thought it was really good.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2011, 07:20:06 pm by FinaleTI »


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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2011, 04:20:22 am »
Those looks nice guys :D Do you think they could be used in other projects if Deep doesn't use some of them?
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Re: Big request: A full 4x6 font set (for XDE)
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2011, 09:51:33 pm »
I'm fine with people using my set. I don't see any reason agains that
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