Omnimaga

General Discussion => Art => Topic started by: meishe91 on September 02, 2010, 07:18:40 pm

Title: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 02, 2010, 07:18:40 pm
Basically what the question asks. I'm wonder which picture contains the sprite that looks most like water :)

Option Old:
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/1283472999-PIC6.JPG)

Code: [Select]
█__
_█_
█__
_█_
__█

Option New:
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/1284003387-WATER7.JPG)

Code: [Select]
█_█
██_
_██
██_
_██

Thanks for anyone's input :)
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 02, 2010, 07:29:26 pm
Hm, seems to be unanimous :)
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Builderboy on September 02, 2010, 07:32:24 pm
I like the second, although option 3 looks identical to option 1 in my eyes O.O
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 02, 2010, 07:33:50 pm
I like the second, although option 3 looks identical to option 1 in my eyes O.O

I think #3 is #1 shifted up one pixel.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Builderboy on September 02, 2010, 07:41:53 pm
Ah i see.  That really doesnt make much of a difference to see when they are tiled then :P Thats why i didnt notice
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: guy6020665 on September 02, 2010, 07:44:08 pm
That really hurts my eyes o.O, perhaps post them on a smaller scale so its easier to tell the difference?
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 02, 2010, 07:45:42 pm
Well I updated it all to better pictures so they aren't as skewed so they are more uniform. Also provided the individual tiles for each one in case that helps :) Thanks everyone :D
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 02, 2010, 07:46:56 pm
Options 4 and 5 aren't added :P
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: guy6020665 on September 02, 2010, 07:47:44 pm
I think No. 5 seems the most water like. I dunno it may be just me
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 02, 2010, 07:48:21 pm
Options 4 and 5 aren't added :P

Psh, what are you talking about? :P ;)
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 02, 2010, 07:51:59 pm
Lol, and that broke unanimity :P
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Builderboy on September 02, 2010, 07:52:36 pm
hmmm, they all look relatively the same to me.  Have you tried different styles of water?  Like horizontal, wavy, darker, lighter, little pixels, marshy.  
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 02, 2010, 07:53:32 pm
Personally, I think it's too dark and contrasted to look like water. What about something like the water used in Mario 2.0?

EDIT: Shouldn't this be in Pixel Art and Drawing?
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: guy6020665 on September 02, 2010, 07:55:33 pm
Lol, and that broke unanimity :P

Sorry  :-X
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 02, 2010, 07:57:01 pm
Well I'm planning on using 3*5 pixel sprites so I don't know how many options I have unless I do one sprite then the other, which will complicate the tilemapper. I'm just not the best spriter and 3*5 doesn't leave a whole lot of options :P I know they all look similar.

Personally, I think it's too dark and contrasted to look like water. What about something like the water used in Mario 2.0?

EDIT: Shouldn't this be in Pixel Art and Drawing?

I don't know. I just put it here since I put my character sprite here too. I just thought it should be since it's technically not TI-BASIC or assembly but it's still calculator related and such.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 02, 2010, 07:58:03 pm
Oh, is this for BASIC?
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: calc84maniac on September 02, 2010, 07:58:21 pm
Personally, I think it's too dark and contrasted to look like water. What about something like the water used in Mario 2.0?

EDIT: Shouldn't this be in Pixel Art and Drawing?
The water in Mario 2.0 didn't look like water at all. It looked like dustbunnies floating in the air.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 02, 2010, 08:20:43 pm
Oh, is this for BASIC?

Ya, they are text sprites. But the language shouldn't really matter.

Also, added a sixth option.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 03, 2010, 02:27:42 am
For some reasons, I found #1 to look more water like. Next in my choice would have been #5
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 03, 2010, 12:54:18 pm
Personally, I think it's too dark and contrasted to look like water. What about something like the water used in Mario 2.0?

EDIT: Shouldn't this be in Pixel Art and Drawing?
The water in Mario 2.0 didn't look like water at all. It looked like dustbunnies floating in the air.

Heh, true.

I like #6 now because it's less contrasted. I still think it's kinda too vertical to look like water. Not much to do about that, though :P
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 03, 2010, 06:11:35 pm
I never actually got to see the water in 2.0 because I only tried 1.2. Back when I was still playing that game, 2.0 was taken off from ticalc.org and calcgames had yet to host it.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 03, 2010, 06:14:51 pm
Oh. Well, basically, it was

   █    
        
       █
        
   █    
        
       █
        
or something like that, so yeah, it kind did look like conveniently patterned dust bunnies.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 03, 2010, 06:47:59 pm
Ah I see. Did the water actually do much, anyway? In SM 1.2, I think this tile was there, but water did nothing special x.x. I wonder if the swimming effect looks good at all..
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 03, 2010, 06:48:42 pm
In 2.0, it just slowed Mario down.

It actually did look like swimming, at least, except that he seemed to be walking in the water :P

Also, water could float in the middle of nowhere. It was weird but fun :D

So, which one are you going to use (meaning for the sprite)?
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 03, 2010, 06:50:20 pm
Ah ok, lol. Yay for Project M :P

Anyway, I assume the water tiles will be for the game you were making, Meishe91, right?
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 03, 2010, 07:18:22 pm
@Deep Thought
Probably number six since it seems to be the favorite :) I'm still not 100% for sure though.

@DJ
Ya. Though I think I'm going to kinda ditch my old tilemapper and create a new one. I recently looked at Edge and kinda got inspired to try and make it look as good as I can. So I've been trying to figure out how I want to do all this. Probably should talk to Sir some.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 03, 2010, 07:33:44 pm
Ah ok I see. In any case, good luck :)
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 03, 2010, 07:37:37 pm
Thank ya :)

Edit:
Voting is now locked.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Jonius7 on September 08, 2010, 05:34:10 am
option 6 is the least eye hurting, and the most realistic. the wavy lines best represent it as the other ones look too 'thick' for water
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 08, 2010, 12:55:19 pm
Keep in mind that on calc it may look less eye-hurting, though, because the contrast between pixels turned ON and those turned OFF isn't as big.  Also keep in mind that when on the calc, you got long columns of pixels going like this:

ON
OFF
ON
OFF
ON
OFF
ON
OFF

or to a lesser extent

ON
OFF
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
ON

and so on, it doesn't give a very good result on the regular TI-83+ (black model). The contrast level for those columns will be much lighter than the rest of the screen and in some cases it may affect other portions of the screen. This particulary makes 3 and 4-level grayscale look extremly bad when the screen is filled with plain gray areas, but it is as bad with non-moving patterns.

This happens on other calcs as well, but not to such high extent. If you fill the entire 83+ LCD with checkered patterns, even at highest level 9, the LCD contrast looks like it has been set at level 6.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 08, 2010, 02:27:18 pm
Ya, those screenshots aren't really the greatest either since it isn't on the normal greenish-yellow background, which would more correctly demonstrate the effect. I accidentally came across another pattern that looked kinda cool but I haven't tested it yet or anything.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 08, 2010, 02:34:43 pm
Nice, please share it :D
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 08, 2010, 08:37:09 pm
If I get time I will :) And if I remember the design :P

Edit:
Ok, so here is that new design I came across. It's basically like option six but it's doubled, if that makes sense.

(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/1284003387-WATER7.JPG)
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 08, 2010, 11:42:45 pm
I kinda like that one more actually. What do other people think?
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 08, 2010, 11:44:20 pm
Ya, I like it too. I'm stuck between that and six :P I'll reorganize the poll to include those two and see what people think :)

Edit:
Reopened and reordered :)
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Builderboy on September 09, 2010, 01:08:46 am
Im totally down with the new one :D Looks great!
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 09, 2010, 07:01:35 pm
Yup, I like the new one.

EDIT: Unanimity again! :D
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 09, 2010, 07:09:16 pm
Well yay for mistakes happening then :P
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 09, 2010, 07:10:00 pm
It was an accident? :D Well, that's great, anyway!
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 09, 2010, 07:13:31 pm
Haha ya, I had two copies of my display program where one was set one pixel to the right and forgot one of them didn't have a ClrHome at the beginning so it just went right over the other. Unfortunately that tile was impossible so I just shifted it up a pixel :P
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 12, 2010, 02:18:35 pm
Voting locked. Went with the new one :)
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 12, 2010, 02:20:11 pm
Cool :D, I liked it personally. Good luck on the game
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 12, 2010, 02:21:44 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Scipi on September 12, 2010, 03:45:04 pm
I liked the tird one. It would be good for ocean water. The first one though would be good for like a lake.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 12, 2010, 04:03:24 pm
I liked the tird one. It would be good for ocean water. The first one though would be good for like a lake.

The "tird" one?
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 12, 2010, 04:14:43 pm
third, he means. However the third image is gone x.x

I guess he probably lurked on the forums long before signing up and saw the images before you edited the poll.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 12, 2010, 04:32:58 pm
Ya, that's what I assumed he meant but it confused me since there isn't a third option anymore. But that makes sense.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Scipi on September 12, 2010, 09:41:33 pm
Um. No I just looked back at earlier posts and saw it. It's on the previous page.

Forgive me if I make any spelling errors. Im using a crappy laptop keyboard,
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on September 12, 2010, 10:34:47 pm
The only one that is in the posts though, besides the original post, is the second option. So I'm not sure what third option you see. But oh well.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: Jonius7 on October 06, 2010, 03:44:03 am
hmm the options are different and both are good, i think the new one is better now
anyway meishe91, there used to be 6 options and those have now been narrowed down to 2, i think.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 06, 2010, 03:47:12 am
Anyway :P I think he made people vote for 6 options, but then he had another idea and decided to make a new poll out of the winner and the new idea. However I think he made his mind about 3 weeks ago. :P
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on October 06, 2010, 04:52:00 am
Ya, what DJ said. Though haven't worked to much on it lately :(
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: smmagic on October 06, 2010, 04:56:44 am
Id have to say the second one, but I dragged the first image over the other and I found that looks alot more water-like.

http://vvcap.net/db/2rrA4IHBIsEGV5_dWawE.htp
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on October 06, 2010, 05:06:36 am
What do you mean? This is pure TI-BASIC so I can't do gray.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 06, 2010, 01:39:55 pm
Yeah it was meant to be pure-BASIC so gs is out of the question. Btw I hope you continue working on this again soon :)
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on October 09, 2010, 09:11:05 pm
Ya, me too. I've just been so stressed and tired lately. I haven't had a whole lot of time, well at least the mind to do a lot.
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 09, 2010, 10:32:59 pm
Sorry to hear, I hope you feel better soon x.x
Title: Re: Which Looks More Water Like?
Post by: meishe91 on October 09, 2010, 10:43:22 pm
Thanks. things should be better after the next couple weeks. That's when things start to cool down with the musical and everything.