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Calculator Community => TI Calculators => ASM => Topic started by: ACagliano on September 01, 2010, 06:32:33 pm

Title: Hide Apps
Post by: ACagliano on September 01, 2010, 06:32:33 pm
Has someone figured out how to hide applications from the APPS and MEM menus, without undesirable consequences?
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Builderboy on September 01, 2010, 06:44:03 pm
I know Omnicalc can hide the finance menu, but its not really an App... Hmmm... I believe Omnicalc also replaces the App menu with one of its own, maybe thats what you could do?  Then it would be fairly simple to hide the ones you chose.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: _player1537 on September 01, 2010, 06:47:26 pm
While off, press Left-Right-On ;)

Don't really do that though, it locks your calc up to where you can't use programs or apps until you send a variable to the calc (be it prgms, appvars, reals, tilp, ticonnect, another calc).  Other than that, Builderboy is probably correct in that you should check omnicalc's fastapp section
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 01, 2010, 06:48:50 pm
I know Omnicalc can hide the finance menu, but its not really an App... Hmmm... I believe Omnicalc also replaces the App menu with one of its own, maybe thats what you could do?  Then it would be fairly simple to hide the ones you chose.
Omnicalc doesn't support hiding apps you want. Just the Finance one.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2010, 06:49:12 pm
While off, press Left-Right-On ;)

Don't really do that though, it locks your calc up to where you can't use programs or apps until you send a variable to the calc (be it prgms, appvars, reals, tilp, ticonnect, another calc).  Other than that, Builderboy is probably correct in that you should check omnicalc's fastapp section

And it deletes all your groups, remember ;)

And about the fast app menu, it uses the extra RAM pages, so it won't work on a lot of calculators :P

I know Omnicalc can hide the finance menu, but its not really an App... Hmmm... I believe Omnicalc also replaces the App menu with one of its own, maybe thats what you could do?  Then it would be fairly simple to hide the ones you chose.
Omnicalc doesn't support hiding apps you want. Just the Finance one.

Yeah, but the fast app menu is basically just a list of all the apps, so it should be easy to manipulate.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: _player1537 on September 01, 2010, 06:50:14 pm
And it deletes all your groups, remember ;)

Wait wait. wut???  I never knew that, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2010, 06:51:59 pm
And it deletes all your groups, remember ;)

Wait wait. wut???  I never knew that, thanks for sharing.

Yeah, it does. Good thing you never checked :D

I think someone made a patch that disables the group deletion, though. And then there are patches that disable PTT completely :)
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Builderboy on September 01, 2010, 06:52:40 pm
Yeah i wasn't recommending using it, just that that might be a possible method :)
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2010, 06:56:38 pm
Or maybe it could work. If the calc's an SE with extra RAM pages, the program can save the list there, but if it's a plain version, SaveSScreen should be fine since the archive wouldn't hold that many apps anyway.

EDIT: Or put it in a hidden program...
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: calc84maniac on September 01, 2010, 06:58:55 pm
Or maybe it could work. If the calc's an SE with extra RAM pages, the program can save the list there, but if it's a plain version, SaveSScreen should be fine since the archive wouldn't hold that many apps anyway.

EDIT: Or put it in a hidden program...
Hmm, you're right. Maximum 94 apps on an SE with 8 characters per name is 752 bytes. Just enough space :)

Though you might run into problems if an APD occurs in the apps menu, cause savesscreen would be overwritten.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2010, 07:01:03 pm
94 apps ... never knew that :o Wow, SEs are amazing.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: _player1537 on September 01, 2010, 07:04:02 pm
I think the hidden program idea would be good :)
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2010, 07:05:42 pm
I think the hidden program idea would be good :)

Using a hidden program to hide apps :D
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 01, 2010, 07:09:45 pm
94 apps ... never knew that :o Wow, SEs are amazing.
Yeah. 94 flash pages for the user. Hence the 2005 april fools joke :P

With KnightOS, we would probably have more than 94, though ;D
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2010, 07:12:24 pm
94 apps ... never knew that :o Wow, SEs are amazing.
Yeah. 94 flash pages for the user. Hence the 2005 april fools joke :P

Ooh, what was that?

With KnightOS, we would probably have more than 94, though ;D

I really hope so :) No difference between programs and apps, right?
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 01, 2010, 07:15:16 pm
The joke was Zelda: The Minish Cap for the TI-83+SE and the TI-84+SE, a 94 pages flash app. Some people felt for it because back in the days, it was not well known that CalcCapture could capture animated screenshots from things other than a calculator emulator.

As for KOS, I am certain the OS will be much smaller than the 512 KB TI OSes, since it will not include many of the bloat and will be more optimized.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Builderboy on September 01, 2010, 07:24:02 pm
The hidden program is a great idea! :D Thats thinking outside the box right there! :)
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2010, 07:25:48 pm
The hidden program is a great idea! :D Thats thinking outside the box right there! :)

Thanks :D

But then, it'd get lost in a RAM clear.

EDIT: Oh, wait, the hooks would be lost too anyway. Never mind.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Builderboy on September 01, 2010, 07:26:51 pm
so would anything else you had in saveScreen though, including hooks or the like.  Even Omnicalc's menu gets lost in a Ram clear
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2010, 07:29:16 pm
Heh, if you needed to, you could keep the hidden program archived and set up a zStart script. Probably not needed :P What's this for, anyway? Just wondering.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Builderboy on September 01, 2010, 07:29:45 pm
Lol thats a bit much if you ask me :P
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: ACagliano on September 01, 2010, 08:32:33 pm
I was merely wondering because alot of teachers check the calc for apps. I was looking for some hook or something, that would, when apps is pressed alone, throws a blank apps menu, but when apps is pressed with any other key, it outputs the real menu. i really dont need it hidden from mem menu.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: SirCmpwn on September 01, 2010, 08:39:47 pm
BrandonW's Fake application will let you simulate a full memory reset, RAM reset, Archive reset, or anything else you can do from the 2nd+Mem+7 menu.  http://www.brandonw.net/calculators/fake/ (http://www.brandonw.net/calculators/fake/)
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: ACagliano on September 01, 2010, 08:43:49 pm
BrandonW's Fake application will let you simulate a full memory reset, RAM reset, Archive reset, or anything else you can do from the 2nd+Mem+7 menu.  http://www.brandonw.net/calculators/fake/ (http://www.brandonw.net/calculators/fake/)

Excellent. I will use that. But I am still interested in the above, if anyone is interested enough to try.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: Michael_Lee on September 01, 2010, 08:44:20 pm
Does BrandonW's application work with OS 2.83 MP?

Edit: 2.53, sorry.
Title: Re: Hide Apps
Post by: SirCmpwn on September 01, 2010, 08:45:19 pm
If you have a copy of 2.83 MP, I would really like to have it :P
However, I'm not sure if it runs on 2.53 MP.