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Calculator Community => TI Calculators => Axe => Topic started by: Munchor on December 18, 2010, 01:01:27 pm

Title: r'ed stuff
Post by: Munchor on December 18, 2010, 01:01:27 pm
In Axe, lots of commands use r's, so for example:

DispGraphr
DispGraphrr

(3 and 4 levels of grayscale)

A->{H}r
A->{H+1}r

(pointers)

When I compile programs that use r'ed stuff in WabbitEmu, it returns no error and works :D

However, in my calculator, it gives me syntax error in all r's, I use an 84+ keypad, is it a bug?
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Deep Toaster on December 18, 2010, 02:54:06 pm
What version OS/Axe do you use? It worked on an Nspire running 2.42:
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: JosJuice on December 18, 2010, 02:56:17 pm
Let's blame 2.53MP again :hyper:
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 18, 2010, 02:59:46 pm
You typed r, not r, right?
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Munchor on December 18, 2010, 05:37:40 pm
I type normal r, since I can't do the upper r in the calculator :S
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: nemo on December 18, 2010, 05:38:05 pm
I type normal r, since I can't do the upper r in the calculator :S

[2nd][apps] has it
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Deep Toaster on December 18, 2010, 05:39:07 pm
I type normal r, since I can't do the upper r in the calculator :S

They are two totally different tokens, so you have to use r. It's under 2nd+[ANGLE] > 3, as nemo said.
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 18, 2010, 05:39:35 pm
Wow I totally forgot there was a menu there. I always go through CATALOG. O.O
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Munchor on December 18, 2010, 05:40:18 pm
I type normal r, since I can't do the upper r in the calculator :S

They are two totally different tokens, so you have to use r. It's under 2nd+[ANGLE] > 3, as nemo said.

That explains it all :)
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: FloppusMaximus on December 18, 2010, 10:52:48 pm
Let's blame 2.53MP again :hyper:
Wait, people actually use 2.53MP? ;)
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 18, 2010, 11:34:09 pm
It appears so. Some people seem to have fallen in love with some of the new math functions and some even worship 2.53 MP despite all the problems and slowness it comes with. It is so bad from a developer point of view that now you have to test your programs in both 2.43 and 2.53 MP to make sure they work. With older OSes, we rarely ever needed to do that.

Anyway when many people upgrade to the latest version of something then immediately try to downgrade, it shows there's a serious problem with the latest version. I can understand if it's a beta, but not a final release. X.x
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: JosJuice on December 19, 2010, 03:00:14 am
Let's blame 2.53MP again :hyper:
Wait, people actually use 2.53MP? ;)
Nspire users... Well, they're actually using 2.54MP, but it's pretty much the same.
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2010, 03:05:59 am
I heard it is worse in terms of stability but mathprint mode is slightly less slower
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: JosJuice on December 19, 2010, 03:08:35 am
Maybe that's caused by the emulator and not the OS? Or both of them, maybe...
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2010, 05:25:50 am
Most likely emulation.
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Munchor on December 19, 2010, 11:24:17 am
Most likely emulation.

Sigh... I love the 84+ keypad, I think it is reat!
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2010, 12:28:20 pm
Yeah it's cool to have two calcs into one. I just wish emulation was better and ran at the same speed as the real calc (or as fast as the Nspire can handle) and that the 84+ keypad was still distributed with calcs.
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Munchor on December 19, 2010, 01:48:45 pm
Yeah it's cool to have two calcs into one. I just wish emulation was better and ran at the same speed as the real calc (or as fast as the Nspire can handle) and that the 84+ keypad was still distributed with calcs.

I have 2 84+ keypads, and can get more if I want :) It's a privilege that many don't have :S
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: calcdude84se on December 19, 2010, 02:57:24 pm
Wait, why would you need multiple keypads? ???
Am I missing something?
Also, glad the issue got solved :)
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Munchor on December 19, 2010, 03:01:35 pm
Wait, why would you need multiple keypads? ???
Am I missing something?
Also, glad the issue got solved :)

I like having a few, so that I can switch, borrow friends :)
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2010, 04:11:30 pm
Maybe in the future you could sell some to people here who want 84+ keypads but cannot find any anywhere if TI decided to discontinue it? ;D
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Munchor on December 19, 2010, 04:52:48 pm
Maybe in the future you could sell some to people here who want 84+ keypads but cannot find any anywhere if TI decided to discontinue it? ;D

Yes, I am trying to switch one for a Clickpad, but I gave up of that due to Ndless 2.0 :D
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: yunhua98 on December 19, 2010, 09:15:10 pm
just trying to tie up a loose end, but how come the regular r works on Wabbit?  :o
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: calcdude84se on December 19, 2010, 09:25:58 pm
Capital or lowercase?
Capital one works just fine, it just doesn't give the intended result.
I'm not sure why or how lowercase 'r' would work...
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: yunhua98 on December 19, 2010, 09:34:38 pm
I'm referring to what Scout said on the first post
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: calcdude84se on December 19, 2010, 09:36:19 pm
Ah. I wasn't sure if that implied that on Wabbit he was using lowercase or not.
We'll have to wait for him, I guess
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2010, 10:12:35 pm
Maybe in the future you could sell some to people here who want 84+ keypads but cannot find any anywhere if TI decided to discontinue it? ;D

Yes, I am trying to switch one for a Clickpad, but I gave up of that due to Ndless 2.0 :D
You steal them from people and exchange them? O.O
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Michael_Lee on December 20, 2010, 12:35:52 am
It appears so. Some people seem to have fallen in love with some of the new math functions and some even worship 2.53 MP despite all the problems and slowness it comes with.

*Sigh...*
This used to be me...  I adored the mathprint features because they were (are? verb confusion :() incredibly helpful, but after I got TWO CRASHES in math class this Friday after doing a bunch of simple logarithms, I'm starting to reconsider downgrading...
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 20, 2010, 12:44:36 am
Did you run ASM stuff before? That's pretty bad if you didn't and still got crashes O.O

btw, if you encounter any bug in 2.53 MP after a fresh mem clear, you should post them in the glitch thread. Eventually I'll compile them in the first post. (Although you can add them if they're legit)
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Michael_Lee on December 20, 2010, 12:49:49 am
Well, since this August, I've been running TONS of asm stuff (both downloaded and stuff I made with Axe), and the only RAM clears I got were just due to bugs in my programs.  I was testing some stuff earlier, so the first crash (well, not really a crash - both times it froze and I had to yank a battery) could be just me, but I got a second crash after the RAM clear after doing the same thing...

Another possible explanation: I had zStart, Omnicalc, and DoorsCS hooks/stuff running in the background - possibly that might have mucked up my calc a little.
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 20, 2010, 12:59:12 am
Ah ok, because even after a RAM clear, things can still remain messed up sometimes, so something from the OS  may cause a crash, but it's due to the calc being messed up in the first place.
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: yunhua98 on December 20, 2010, 10:26:31 am
I've really never had crashes due to JUST the 2.53 OS, its mainly just ASM incompatibilities...
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Deep Toaster on December 20, 2010, 06:00:18 pm
And it's one of the first TI-OSes to crash randomly, no ASM incompatibilities or anything. TI's getting worse and worse at coding :(
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: Munchor on December 20, 2010, 06:01:40 pm
And it's one of the first TI-OSes to crash randomly, no ASM incompatibilities or anything. TI's getting worse and worse at coding :(

We should code for Texas, I believe.
Title: Re: r'ed stuff
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 21, 2010, 02:23:29 pm
The problem if someone like BrandonW got hired to code for them is that while the OSes would be less buggy and better, BrandonW would no longer be allowed to reveal anymore info to the public about how the OSes are coded and TI's goals. As a result, he would no longer be allowed to code patches or help the community get around the OSes quirks. As for him, it's not guaranteed TI would listen to his suggestions of additions to the newer OSes.