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Title: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on December 30, 2010, 05:41:07 pm
It's taken a few days of pulling my hair out, but the Prizm wiki is finally running.

http://prizmwiki.omnimaga.org/wiki/Main_Page (http://prizmwiki.omnimaga.org/wiki/Main_Page)

Try it out and be sure to contribute if you have anything.  :)

Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Munchor on December 30, 2010, 05:42:39 pm
It's taken a few days of pulling my hair out, but the Prizm wiki is finally running.

http://wiki.prizmwiki.co.cc/ (http://wiki.prizmwiki.co.cc/)

Try it out and be sure to contribute if you have anything.  :)

Also, would someone mind telling whether the site loads slowly for them? I've been having some router issues on my end, so I'm not sure whether it's me or the hosting provider.

The website loads fine and nice idea, a wiki is indeed needed.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: z80man on December 30, 2010, 08:48:22 pm
Great we can now start posting everything known about asm, basic, images, and hardware all in one place.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: uberspire on December 31, 2010, 12:51:04 am
Awesome! I was reading the other thread and I like the pace we're cracking the Prizm. :) But with the wiki it should now be easier to centralize all the information.

Someone should write up all the stuff we know about the add-in header and also create another page to list out the hardware specs (SuperH 3 processor, 32MB flash, etc.)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on December 31, 2010, 02:42:49 am
This is awesome. Thanks for setting it up, Qwerty :)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 31, 2010, 02:49:06 am
Nice! As for the site speed it seems fine to me but Wiki softwares are generally slow anyway. If it gets too bad I could always host it.

Will you put a link to this forum eventually for those who want to discuss or ask help?

Also I'm moving this to calc discussions/news while I prepare a new Casio sub-forum.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on December 31, 2010, 02:53:19 am
Yay, a Casio sub-forum!

/heresy

I'll be sure to link Omnimaga on the resources page. :)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 31, 2010, 02:54:05 am
Cool. Actually you might want to link to that new sub-forum, though, in case people get lost.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on December 31, 2010, 07:00:52 am
The wiki is running a bit slow right now, but it was fine earlier.
I've added more information about the .g3a file format.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: yunhua98 on December 31, 2010, 05:39:50 pm
Dj, can the subforum have a subdomain like axe?  Or maybe the wiki instead?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Munchor on December 31, 2010, 05:42:33 pm
Dj, can the subforum have a subdomain like axe?  Or maybe the wiki instead?

prizm.omnimaga.org? I think it could be useful :)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: yunhua98 on December 31, 2010, 05:50:09 pm
Qwerty, the wiki only let's admins edit the pages, apparently...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on December 31, 2010, 06:14:08 pm
Qwerty, the wiki only let's admins edit the pages, apparently...
That's just the main page, I think.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: jnesselr on December 31, 2010, 06:21:19 pm
I've been working on adding languages. I'm doing it to the best of my ability, but I'm not really fluent in much besides english.

Anyway, so far I've found a few interesting things. I'm going to ask a friend of mine about one language that is perplexing me.  There seems to be multiple english versions, but I don't think this is correct.  The characters like î and é are encoded strangely.  Their not unicode or anything, so I'm asking to see if anyone knows of a character encoding that uses something like this:

The first byte is always 0xE6, and the second byte can be pretty much anything.  Values for the second byte have been something like 0x04, 0x0A, and 0x14.

EDIT: oh, and I can edit pages, but I haven't tried making or editing the main page.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 31, 2010, 06:23:26 pm
Dj, can the subforum have a subdomain like axe?  Or maybe the wiki instead?
I might make one, same for Ndless.

On the wiki there should probably be a links section like HackSpire, linking to each appropriate Casio communities.

I wonder if there are any French Prizm discussions? I think I saw a german forum where they talked about it before.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on January 01, 2011, 03:24:16 am
The two extra English names in the add-in headers are possibly placeholder data in case Casio wants to add more languages in the future. They even made the .g3l format so that they could add more languages...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on January 01, 2011, 01:55:37 pm
Sorry for the double post. I believe most (if not all) of the information about the .g3a file format from the Casio Prizm documentation topic has been added to the wiki. I don't fully understand what z80man has discovered about the checksums, so it would be helpful if he (or someone else) could check that the info on the wiki is correct. We're also working on identifying the languages that are used in the files. If you want to help, here's a list of them. (Characters that could not be read are marked as question marks.)

English:
Conversion
Geometry
Picture Plot

Unknown: (JosJuice's guess: Spanish)
Conversi?n
Geometr?a
Trazar Imgn

Unknown: (graphmastur's guess: German)
Konvert.
Geometrie
Bildplot

Unknown: (JosJuice's guess: French)
Conversion
G?om?trie
Plot Image

Portuguese:
Convers?o (Conversão)
Geometria
Plot Imagem

Unknown: (graphmastur's guess: Korean)
????????
????
????????

English: (again)
Conversion
Geometry
Picture Plot

English: (again)
Conversion
Geometry
Picture Plot
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Munchor on January 01, 2011, 02:09:56 pm
http://translate.google.com/#en|de|Conversion%0AGeometry%0APicture%20Plot (http://translate.google.com/#en|de|Conversion%0AGeometry%0APicture%20Plot)

The germane guess looks correct. PM Yeong with the Korean one, I'm sure he'll know if its Korean or not.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on January 01, 2011, 02:17:52 pm
PM Yeong with the Korean one, I'm sure he'll know if its Korean or not.
Reading the characters from the file is not possible. I can only post the hex (and its ASCII counterpart, but that is just garbage).

B5 A5 CE BB BB BB CB E3 (µ¥Î»»»Ëã)
BC B8 BA CE (¼¸ºÎ)
BD CC D1 A7 CC BD CB F7 (½Ìѧ̽Ë÷)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: shrear on January 01, 2011, 03:12:10 pm
you can't read it in the hex editor  because it is Unicode

added a "readable" file (readable if you can Korean)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: jnesselr on January 01, 2011, 03:18:09 pm
The unicode is what made me think it was korean. Yeong is chinese, i thought. Some of the missing characters are part of the reserved unicode section. So the characters like í start with the first byte as E6h and the second byte is some other value.


In the file for the binary data, it seems there are "character maps" which have tokens based on some language id.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on January 01, 2011, 03:32:48 pm
Oh, so the Korean names in the add-ins are in Unicode? I thought Casio were going to use more non-standard encodings...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: jnesselr on January 01, 2011, 03:40:15 pm
Well, they are korean chars when converted to unicode. They might not be unicode.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 01, 2011, 10:12:43 pm
On a side note, it would be good to rename the wiki from My mediawiki to Casio PRIZM Hacking Wiki in the title bar.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on January 01, 2011, 10:23:24 pm
I've already looked into it. I can change it for every page EXCEPT the main page. It's the way the hosting provider has everything set up. It's also why I haven't put in a favicon :banghead:
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 01, 2011, 10:42:53 pm
Woah that sucks O.O

Are you sure you don't want to host it elsewhere (like the former Omni webspace) or move to Wikidot?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on January 01, 2011, 10:45:50 pm
I would, but I'd lose all of the member details and pages  :P
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: jnesselr on January 02, 2011, 01:09:07 am
True. And wikidot isn't like a wiki, becahse you have much more freedom.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 02, 2011, 01:26:52 am
Yeah, true, although you can't really move the data elsewhere and convert it to Wikimedia later if Wikidot ever went under or something, right? As for member page loss, I guess it wouldn't be too bad right now since the Wiki just started.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on January 02, 2011, 01:55:14 am
What I could do is save all of the pages on my computer, then reinstall them on the new server and reset all of the User passwords at the new host.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: jnesselr on January 02, 2011, 10:13:17 am
We would need new a hosting provider, or set up our own server.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on January 02, 2011, 09:34:44 pm
If you want to be technical, the domain www.prizmwiki.co.cc is registered with two hosting providers  :P
All I would have to do is point the domain to the other one two switch.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 04, 2011, 02:08:11 am
We would need new a hosting provider, or set up our own server.
Well I got 105 GB left on my 1and1 webspace and about 11 on Omni webspace. THat would be more than enough I think. However, if Mediawiki uses PHP, on 1and1 there may be occasional 500 Internal Server Errors on peak periods. Otherwise uptime would be pretty good, though. I would have to setup a FTP account to the appropriate person so he can upload the files.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on January 07, 2011, 04:48:27 pm
Adding documentation for the Casio BASIC language.

EDIT: Err, and a lot of Admin Template spam as well  :P
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: jnesselr on January 07, 2011, 08:20:16 pm
Adding documentation for the Casio BASIC language.

EDIT: Err, and a lot of Admin Template spam as well  :P
Yeah, what is all that spam?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on January 07, 2011, 08:24:02 pm
I was adding some templates so the the Infobox property is available. It just takes a lot of templates...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 08, 2011, 06:58:42 pm
Did you get plenty of spambots or something?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on June 06, 2011, 09:39:28 am
There are lots of things I've been trying to improve with the wiki recently, but it's just too slow for doing anything useful. What should take a few minutes can take up to hours since pages load so incredibly slowly. Is there anything we can do to make it faster?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 06, 2011, 05:22:48 pm
Hmm this sucks. THere was no way to back up the content, right? A wiki software is very slow. Even on the previous UTI server I tried hosting one once for the xLIB Guru and it took 1 minute per page. I bet even 1and1 is slow for such things. My other host would be fine, tho, providing you don't need to upload like 100 files of 4 MB each.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 06, 2011, 05:48:45 pm
There are lots of things I've been trying to improve with the wiki recently, but it's just too slow for doing anything useful. What should take a few minutes can take up to hours since pages load so incredibly slowly. Is there anything we can do to make it faster?

Change the host :P

I'm not sure I can restore the backups to a new host, though.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on June 07, 2011, 01:38:18 am
I've got .txt files of every page in the main, category and image namespaces, so we could re-add the pages pretty easily to a new host (but not the users and talk pages and history).
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 07, 2011, 02:20:38 am
The fact that you don't have history is probably a good thing...  <_<
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 07, 2011, 02:33:07 am
I think it's fine. People can just register maybe and history isn't necessary unless someone vandalize the thing one second before you backup.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on June 07, 2011, 08:35:28 am
I think it's fine. People can just register maybe and history isn't necessary unless someone vandalize the thing one second before you backup.

I've got the backup made already and I check for new edits every day, so there shouldn't be any trouble.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 11, 2011, 03:10:48 am
Good to hear :)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 11, 2011, 03:26:47 am
Okay, since Heliohost, the host I was planning on moving Prizmwiki to is rather unstable, I think I'm going to move it to the original and more stable 000webhost instead. Either way, I have to reset the DNS, so the site will be down/redirect to bad pages for a few days at most.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 11, 2011, 03:32:40 am
Ok, thanks for letting us know. Will the domain name remains the same?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 11, 2011, 03:34:57 am
The DNS provider will remain the same, so the URL will be identical.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 11, 2011, 03:35:35 am
Ok thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on June 11, 2011, 06:04:55 am
As of now, the wiki seems to be down... I assume this is because it's changing hosting.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 11, 2011, 06:19:34 am
Yep, the DNS is changing, so your browser won't know where to go for a few hours at the very earliest. I made a mediawiki backup immediately beforehand, so there haven't been any changes.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on June 11, 2011, 06:22:05 am
Yep, the DNS is changing, so your browser won't know where to go for a few hours at the very earliest. I made a mediawiki backup immediately beforehand, so there haven't been any changes.
Ah, okay. I guess it'll take a few days before I can access the wiki then, since DNS changes are quite slow here in Sweden...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 11, 2011, 06:23:38 am
Yeah. It might take me that long to set up these two thousand mediawiki files...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 11, 2011, 02:03:07 pm
Okay, mediawiki is now installed and both Josjuice and I are admins now. Unfortunately, the backup restore didn't work, so all users will have to re-register accounts.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 11, 2011, 02:16:43 pm
Sorry to hear, glad it's up, though. Hopefully that host is reliable.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on June 11, 2011, 02:57:16 pm
All content has now been restored, except for the talk and user pages. I don't have backups of those, but Qwerty might still have them.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 11, 2011, 02:57:43 pm
Sorry, not in any accessible form.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 14, 2011, 04:35:27 am
New "Pixeled" theme added to Prizmwiki. Just go to My preferences>Appearance when logged in to test it out  :)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on June 14, 2011, 06:52:06 am
The visuals are nice, but it makes the pages look a bit cramped. Is it really necessary to have Navigation and Toolbox show up twice? And the "Prizm Wiki" text should do to http://www.prizmwiki.co.cc/mediawiki-1.16.5/index.php/Main_Page, not http://www.prizmwiki.co.cc/.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 14, 2011, 04:42:37 pm
Yeah, there are a few bugs with it that I have to work out :P

It's also messed up in editing pages.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 16, 2011, 04:51:30 pm
Okay, Josjuice brought up an error that Prizmwiki was returning database errors. As it turns out, the database cache was pretty much fried. The problem has been fixed.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2011, 05:11:53 pm
Yeah I saw last night. Also is the wiki.prizmwiki.co.cc/ URL down for good? I need to know before I can start adding the [prizmwiki] BB Code
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on June 16, 2011, 06:46:42 pm
Yes, it's down for good. That address in particular was a feature of the former hosting provider and it's no longer available (unless someone wants to tell me how to set it up?).
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on July 01, 2011, 08:38:57 am
Wikipedia doesn't like us. :(

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s183/JosJuice/random177.png)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 01, 2011, 01:44:02 pm
Stupid co.cc.

EDIT: .co.cc is indeed in Wikipedia's blacklist, you might want to ask to remove it by saying there's legit websites there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 01, 2011, 02:34:16 pm
THis sucks. Maybe it would be best to have a different URL or something if that fails?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on July 01, 2011, 03:21:56 pm
...  <_<

Juju, I don't see ".co.cc" on that blacklist page.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 01, 2011, 04:53:52 pm
Search for "\b.co\.cc\b".

So yeah, you might ask to either remove .co.cc from the blacklist, or, if this fails, ask to whitelist prizmwiki.co.cc.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on July 01, 2011, 04:56:29 pm
I don't see anything with ".cc" in it, let alone supersets of that phrase. Link?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 03, 2011, 12:40:43 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist

Also I'm getting errors on the wiki:
Code: [Select]
Prizm Wiki has a problem

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.

(Can't contact the database server: Access denied for user 'a3585674_dbuser'@'10.50.0.72' (using password: YES) (mysql6.000webhost.com))

If you're getting problems feel free to move on either Omnimaga or 57o9.org where I host Axe Wiki.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 03, 2011, 12:42:20 am
Also I think with waht Google did, it should probably get a new URL now.

I don't mind hosting it, by the way.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: jnesselr on July 03, 2011, 09:54:55 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist

Also I'm getting errors on the wiki:
Code: [Select]
Prizm Wiki has a problem

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.

(Can't contact the database server: Access denied for user 'a3585674_dbuser'@'10.50.0.72' (using password: YES) (mysql6.000webhost.com))

If you're getting problems feel free to move on either Omnimaga or 57o9.org where I host Axe Wiki.
wait, did it just give a full database user and password??? Isn't that kinda bad if the permissions aren't set up just right?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on July 04, 2011, 06:02:29 pm
That's not the DB password :P
However, that address is now offline.

Here's a tentative alternate domain. I'm still trying to get the database working, though:

http://www.prizmwiki.webuda.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page (http://www.prizmwiki.webuda.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 04, 2011, 06:08:59 pm
Is that due to server issues?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on July 04, 2011, 06:10:41 pm
The current database doesn't want to accept the database from the old site, so...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 04, 2011, 11:54:32 pm
...So there's a new version on http://prizmwiki.omnimaga.org.

Have fun. :P
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on July 05, 2011, 10:31:58 am
Great! Finally an URL that we'll be able to stick with and isn't blocked... And I didn't have to recreate all of the pages again. :P

It seems like the references don't work, though.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 05, 2011, 01:07:25 pm
Yeah, noticed that, dunno why...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on July 05, 2011, 01:16:00 pm
I think there's some kind of plugin that's needed in order to make them work. We've had this problem once before.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on July 19, 2011, 03:11:45 pm
Firstly, rhe wiki now uses templates (http://prizmwiki.omnimaga.org/wiki/Category:Templates), but there aren't many of them yet.

Secondly, there's something that I've been thinking about. We haven't selected a license for the wiki yet, so all of the current content isn't really released under anything. Should we start using a license? If we do, which one? Maybe what Wikipedia uses? We'll have to contact everyone who has contributed to the wiki to make sure that they think it's OK to publish their edits under the new license. The contributors that I remember are: Qwerty.55, JosJuice, cfxm, graphmastur, KermMartian and Jonimus (TheStorm).
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on July 19, 2011, 03:33:11 pm
The old wiki's used the Creative Commons license because I prefer it. It's also the general Wikipedia license, so no one should have a problem. To change the license, though, I would need ftp access from Juju.


As for references, I think I could fix those if I had the aforementioned ftp access  :P I just need to install the Citations extension, if I remember correctly.

PS: That's what sucks about mediawiki. To do anything useful generally involves either ftp or DB editing...
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 19, 2011, 03:42:37 pm
Ah, good idea, the Creative Commons license.

Also you only need access to LocalSettings.php, I'll look at this.

EDIT: License changed.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on July 19, 2011, 04:08:29 pm
As for references, I think I could fix those if I had the aforementioned ftp access  :P I just need to install the Citations extension, if I remember correctly.

PS: That's what sucks about mediawiki. To do anything useful generally involves either ftp or DB editing...
It has been working for a while already.
Ah, good idea, the Creative Commons license.

Also you only need access to LocalSettings.php, I'll look at this.

EDIT: License changed.
Which version are we using? 3.0?

EDIT: "Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License" should probably be changed to "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0) License", which is what the CC website says.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 19, 2011, 04:13:21 pm
Well, I copied it from Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on July 19, 2011, 04:15:34 pm
I think Wikipedia says "CC-BY-SA 3.0 License". (I'm looking at the text that's right above the field for entering an edit summary.)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on July 28, 2011, 02:58:15 am
There was a wave of spambot edits recently. I've reverted all of the edits and banned the IP adresses, so hopefully they won't bother us more. Maybe we should also disable editing for users that haven't registered, like on the old host?

EDIT: They are still attacking. Please disable editing for guests.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 28, 2011, 03:49:56 am
Um, use the protect button?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on July 28, 2011, 04:22:05 am
Juju, can you make the following change to localsettings.php?

Code: [Select]
Change from:
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']             = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createpage']       = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createtalk']       = true;


Code: [Select]
...To this:
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']             = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createpage']       = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createtalk']       = false;
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on July 28, 2011, 02:30:52 pm
Sure. :)

Edit: Done. These variables wasn't even defined lol.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 28, 2011, 02:31:24 pm
Hmm I hope you guys don't have to disable registrations completely. BrandonW was forced to do this with WikiTI recently...

I wouldn't be surprised if the Axe wiki was hit soon.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on July 28, 2011, 02:33:11 pm
Registrations will always be open. The day they close (aside from general maintenance stuff) is the day prizmwiki is shut down.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on July 28, 2011, 02:41:27 pm
All content has now been restored and all users that have made edits were banned, other than 90.186.0.21, who wasn't a spambot and cleaned up some commonly used pages.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: fxdev on July 29, 2011, 05:50:26 am
All content has now been restored and all users that have made edits were banned, other than 90.186.0.21, who wasn't a spambot and cleaned up some commonly used pages.

90.186.0.21 was me. :-)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: fb39ca4 on August 16, 2011, 01:38:40 am
Ummm, it doesn't work. I get a 000 web hosting error page.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on August 16, 2011, 01:40:12 am
Sorry, try this link instead: http://prizmwiki.omnimaga.org/wiki/Main_Page (http://prizmwiki.omnimaga.org/wiki/Main_Page)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Deep Toaster on February 11, 2012, 10:47:13 am
I just realized Cemetech has also hosted a separate Prizm wiki (http://prizm.cemetech.net/) since last December. Wouldn't it be better for both of them to be merged together?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on February 11, 2012, 11:42:12 am
Yes. We don't have a lot of Prizm information at the old wiki, so moving it shouldn't be hard. Maybe we should add a note to the main page that the new wiki should be used instead? Also, Flyingfisch and others have been adding some other Casio articles in addition to the Prizm ones. I'm not sure what we should do with those.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: SimonLothar on February 11, 2012, 12:55:09 pm
I just realized Cemetech has also hosted a separate Prizm wiki (http://prizm.cemetech.net/) since last December.
Alas, I could not find any references in this wiki (not even fine-printed), where the "scattered information" has been gathered from.
I would like to exchange experiences with the finder of all this information, especially concerning the syscalls.
Can anybody help...?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on February 11, 2012, 01:35:04 pm
Oh wow. Omnimaga and Cemetech each running their own wiki. Meh.

I should go talk with Kerm about it so we could merge both.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: AngelFish on February 11, 2012, 03:54:55 pm
I just realized Cemetech has also hosted a separate Prizm wiki (http://prizm.cemetech.net/) since last December.
Alas, I could not find any references in this wiki (not even fine-printed), where the "scattered information" has been gathered from.
I would like to exchange experiences with the finder of all this information, especially concerning the syscalls.
Can anybody help...?


It was a combination of Ahelper, reading your documentation, and occasionally me correcting them. Ahelper would be the one to talk to.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 14, 2012, 03:14:44 pm
At first I was gonna ask what we do with PrizmWiki now that Cemetech started their own (I think to replace ours?) more complete, since it would be redundant to have two wiki, especially when most of our Prizm coders are too busy to maintain our wiki as often as they can maintain theirs.

The thing though, is are you guys still planning to continue maintaining the FX-9860G portions of it? It would be nice because there isn't a lot of info about the 9860G online and I'm unsure if Cemetech had any plan to venture into 9860G programming yet.

If you're gonna merge, though, I think what was done on Hackspire main page should be done there too for the discussion references, since it would kinda be wrong to only include Cemetech in the sites where Prizm hacking occured when it also occured elsewhere as well.

I thought about something like this:
Quote
Forums and News sites

Although not specific to the Prizm, these web sites are visited by Prizm hackers and developers.

Cemetech (forum) (most active - English spoken)

Planète-Casio (forum) (French spoken)

Omnimaga (where hacking begun - English spoken)

PRIZM Developers IRC channels

#prizm at efnet.xs4all.nl:6667 - SSL on port 6697
Should the two calc channels be included as well despite the many non-PRIZM talk there?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on February 14, 2012, 03:24:26 pm
The thing though, is are you guys still planning to continue maintaining the FX-9860G portions of it? It would be nice because there isn't a lot of info about the 9860G online and I'm unsure if Cemetech had any plan to venture into 9860G programming yet.
I'm most likely going to continue to make make sure that the wiki stays organized (checking edits, removing spambots, etc.) but I don't know if more content will be added since that's up to the editors.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 14, 2012, 03:25:18 pm
Ah ok, who are the editors right now?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on February 14, 2012, 03:29:01 pm
Ah ok, who are the editors right now?
Flyingfisch is the only one who shows up in the list of edits from the past 30 days, so it's probably mostly him.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on February 14, 2012, 03:30:41 pm
The thing though, is are you guys still planning to continue maintaining the FX-9860G portions of it? It would be nice because there isn't a lot of info about the 9860G online and I'm unsure if Cemetech had any plan to venture into 9860G programming yet.
I'm most likely going to continue to make make sure that the wiki stays organized (checking edits, removing spambots, etc.) but I don't know if more content will be added since that's up to the editors.

I will continue to add content to those sections. ;)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 14, 2012, 03:31:13 pm
Ah ok thanks for the info. And glad to hear.

Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on February 15, 2012, 02:18:18 pm
You're welcome.

Yeah, I think cfxm and I were about the only editors for the FX9860 section, but I certainly don't plan on stopping editing that section. (That probably wasn't said in the best grammar ever XD)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 15, 2012, 03:10:44 pm
Well it's good to hear you are planning to continue. :)
/me hopes you also make some programs too (games), though :P
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on February 15, 2012, 03:23:49 pm
Well it's good to hear you are planning to continue. :)
/me hopes you also make some programs too (games), though :P

Of course I'll make games!!!!!
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 15, 2012, 11:47:00 pm
Ok because I noticed you haven't released any since you joined. I wanted Crysis. D:

(jk about Crysis, though)

Maybe you could try porting some of my old games (such as ROL3) to it? :P It might be best to start with smaller stuff, though.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Yeong on February 16, 2012, 05:51:33 pm
Porting ROL3 to Prizm? O.o
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on February 16, 2012, 07:14:46 pm
What was ROL3? Was it in BASIC?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Yeong on February 16, 2012, 07:15:38 pm
ROL3 = Reign of Legends 3.
It's a RPG game made by DJ_O in 2004, one of the most massive game in TI-BASIC history. :D
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on February 17, 2012, 10:25:53 am
ROL3 = Reign of Legends 3.
It's a RPG game made by DJ_O in 2004, one of the most massive game in TI-BASIC history. :D

How many KB?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: fxdev on February 22, 2012, 09:45:22 am
The wiki seems to be unreachable at the moment.
And don't shut this down. There are some direct links to the wiki pages.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on February 22, 2012, 09:49:12 am
Yes, there has been some problems with Juju's server recently. I don't think there's anything we can do about it, but it should be back after the problems are fixed. We're not planning to take it down as far as I know.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: fxdev on February 22, 2012, 09:52:51 am
We could add references to the Cemetech wiki inside our wiki, so we don't have to maintain and update most stuff.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: KermMartian on February 22, 2012, 01:14:41 pm
We could add references to the Cemetech wiki inside our wiki, so we don't have to maintain and update most stuff.
You could indeed, if you like. :) Once we get some free time, the other C coders and I are going to get back to making the System Call documentation on WikiPrizm complete and useful.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 22, 2012, 05:41:58 pm
ROL3 = Reign of Legends 3.
It's a RPG game made by DJ_O in 2004, one of the most massive game in TI-BASIC history. :D

How many KB?
120 if I remember. It would need to be an add-in or an hybrid of BASIC combined with something such as xLIB that allows copying programs from the Flash to the RAM and delete them, along with sprites and tilemaps.

Yes, there has been some problems with Juju's server recently. I don't think there's anything we can do about it, but it should be back after the problems are fixed. We're not planning to take it down as far as I know.
That's assuming it's not an incident like one of Invisionfree's server back in 2006 and that nothing was lost, though. If PrizmWiki remains for 9860G material, I think it should be moved to a different server like Omni for example. Same goes for the Axe Wiki (which also has a spam problem)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on March 04, 2012, 10:38:25 am
We're starting to get even more spambots. Is there anything we can do about this?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on April 22, 2012, 11:39:36 am
The spam level has become incredibly high, and it's getting pretty hard to keep up. I think we have to disable registrations, even though it makes it much harder for new legit users to join. There simply aren't many other options that could work. Any opinions on this?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on April 22, 2012, 11:50:58 am
We can disable registrations and tell new users to PM any admin to get an account like we did on Axe Wiki.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on May 02, 2012, 03:21:26 pm
And that's what I just did.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on May 02, 2012, 03:50:19 pm
Thanks! I've added a note to the main page (maybe it needs some clarification about how to contact us?), and I'll probably get started on removing the old spam pages this weekend now that there aren't going to be any new pages to remove.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 04, 2012, 10:53:47 pm
Good news. I think it's the only way to kill spam. You should have a red notice on the front page like WikiTI had telling people how to get an account.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on May 05, 2012, 03:44:28 am
The message has been red-box-ified now, but I'm not sure about who users should be instructed to contact. Who has the ability to create accounts?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 05, 2012, 03:49:58 am
Juju probably does, since he still hosts it I think (or is still at least admin)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on May 05, 2012, 10:34:00 am
Anyone who is admin on the Wiki. I.E. those people (http://prizmwiki.omnimaga.org/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&group=sysop).
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on May 05, 2012, 10:39:16 am
Added! (Hopefully I know how to add users :P)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: vapor5 on January 24, 2013, 06:11:18 pm
Well, the wiki is down or what?
Title: Re: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 24, 2013, 06:18:13 pm
Probably gone forever or for a few months
It was hosted on 57o9 which is down for unknown reasons with no way to contact the hosting provider
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: vapor5 on January 24, 2013, 06:26:52 pm
Probably gone forever or for a few months
It was hosted on 57o9 which is down for unknown reasons with no way to contact the hosting provider

Sad news. Thank you for your help anyways
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on January 24, 2013, 11:08:21 pm
Probably gone forever or for a few months
It was hosted on 57o9 which is down for unknown reasons with no way to contact the hosting provider

Wait. forever? all the stuff that was on there is lost???
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on January 24, 2013, 11:29:36 pm
Maybe not forever. Let's not be pessimistic. I'll check this out as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 24, 2013, 11:38:44 pm
Yeah but it has been down for days and the guy isn't answering, and it happens quite often. Also given what I heard earlier today (apparently the hosting was now free or the guy didn't mind offering it for free) this means the person who gave juju 57o9 shouldn't be taken for granted, because you know how unreliable free hosts can be x.x.

I would say maybe move to something cheap like Alberthrocks has and maybe juju can do a backup of everything there and point the domain name there so nothing is lost and no URL change occurs.

I'M definitively thinking about getting a new host, though, because this is not the first time that 57o9 and julosoft go down for long periods of time and Julosoft even went down for half a year once.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on January 24, 2013, 11:41:45 pm
Ok, well for now, i am moving my stuff to 000, but I do have stuff on jujus server i would love to have back :).
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on January 24, 2013, 11:44:08 pm
I'll tell ya guys as soon as I have news.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on January 24, 2013, 11:55:21 pm
ok gotcha, thanks :)
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: ruler501 on January 25, 2013, 12:10:54 am
I don't mean to start any arguments, but why don't we use cemetech's? I'd think it would be better not to split up the information across multiple sources
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: Juju on January 25, 2013, 12:12:07 am
I don't mean to start any arguments, but why don't we use cemetech's? I'd think it would be better not to split up the information across multiple sources
I agree with ruler. Two wikis might be redundant.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on January 25, 2013, 12:14:00 am
I don't mean to start any arguments, but why don't we use cemetech's? I'd think it would be better not to split up the information across multiple sources
I agree with ruler. Two wikis might be redundant.

there was a lot of great information for fx9860s on primwiki.... :-\
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: ruler501 on January 25, 2013, 12:15:06 am
Maybe, we should recover it if possible and move it onto cemetech's wiki. Do they even have an fx9860 section?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: flyingfisch on January 25, 2013, 12:21:49 am
Maybe, we should recover it if possible and move it onto cemetech's wiki. Do they even have an fx9860 section?
No, but planet-casio (http://wiki.planet-casio.com/en/Main_Page) does.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: helder7 on January 26, 2013, 05:10:09 pm
Yep, perhaps the best solution is placing Prizm information in Cemetech Wiki and fx9860 in Planet Casio wiki.
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 26, 2013, 07:28:02 pm
Yeah that might be a good idea, although it would be nice if it was at least back up for now. Also, what about hosting PrizmWiki and Axe Wiki on Omni server? Is Netham45 just too short on space? ???
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: TIfanx1999 on January 27, 2013, 10:14:27 am
Dunno, put it in site suggestions possibly?
Title: Re: Prizm Wiki
Post by: JosJuice on January 27, 2013, 10:28:20 am
I have an outdated backup of articles and images that I did manually (dated 2011-06-06). It was probably made while moving the wiki, but I'm not sure. Images were not included since two can be easily found on the internet (fx-CG10 and fx-CG20) and the third one might not be especially useful (a kitten). It's in a 7z file instead of zip because zip doesn't seem to support Unicode characters in filenames. The newest version of the article about .g3a files is available at WikiPrizm (http://prizm.cemetech.net/index.php/G3A_File_Format (http://prizm.cemetech.net/index.php/G3A_File_Format)), but the other articles aren't available there.