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Calculator Community => Casio Calculators => Topic started by: Spyro543 on May 25, 2011, 04:22:16 pm

Title: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 25, 2011, 04:22:16 pm
Well, should I? My 9860Slim has been acting up... well.... ever since I got it. And I would like a Prizm.

But I have a few questions: How is the Basic? Is it as good as 68k Basic?

What colors can I use in programming?

Are there any other reasons to get one besides it is new and has a color screen?
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Ashbad on May 25, 2011, 04:28:30 pm
it's PERFECT if you like programming in C.  The BASIC is a bit lacking in many senses, but it beats previous Casio model's BASIC by a bit.  If you like C (or SH4 assembly), get it.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 25, 2011, 04:31:36 pm
I would get a Prizm if I was you. BASIC is slow to graph stuff but otherwise it's pretty great, especially for programming C/ASM.

Btw what's the issue with your 9860G? Is it just randomly crashing or something? You could maybe post a topic describing your issue so people could help.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 25, 2011, 07:34:36 pm
2 more questions:

Has anyone had any trouble graphing the sample graphs in the documentation (or something simple like Y=X+5)?

Can you do percents?
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: m1ac4 on May 26, 2011, 09:57:03 am
1) I've had no problems with graphing things. 
2) You can't use the % symbol in calculations.  You can display the % symbol in programs though.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 26, 2011, 10:24:32 am
I guess a PRISM is a good choice, all though I never came in touch with one. But the 68K calcs aren't bad either. To me, the 68k calcs are TI's greatest calcs.(Well, maybe the nspire is better).

But the PRISM is colour, and it sounds like it's a good calc.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 26, 2011, 11:26:58 am
<3 teh Prizm.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Ashbad on May 26, 2011, 11:33:04 am
I suggest if you buy a color calc, don't buy the NSpire CX -- it only has Lua, and a decently slow implementation at that.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Prizm had Lua support within the next month or two.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Munchor on May 26, 2011, 11:37:49 am
If you want to try and hack the CX go ahead and buy a CX, it's quite cool if some people start hacking it already :)

The PRIZM is a good choice if you want to start developing in C or Asm right away, though.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 26, 2011, 04:30:15 pm
Well the Prizm can't do percents, so that's an automatic NO.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: AngelFish on May 26, 2011, 04:34:36 pm
Um, what? Every calculator can do percents.

n%=n/100...
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 26, 2011, 04:36:33 pm
It's just annoying to convert percents to decimals, and almost everything we do in math has something to do with percents
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Ashbad on May 26, 2011, 04:40:57 pm
It's just annoying to convert percents to decimals, and almost everything we do in math has something to do with percents

all you have to do is divide the numerator by the denominator and divide by one hundred to get a percent.  I doubt the Prizm lacks support for that though -- for most types of non-CAS math, the prizm is actually far better and faster to use than a TI calculator.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 26, 2011, 04:47:13 pm
I guess a Prizm would be cool.... And programming in color would be cool even if it is only 3-bit...
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: AngelFish on May 26, 2011, 05:10:36 pm
It's just annoying to convert percents to decimals, and almost everything we do in math has something to do with percents

Here's how I do it:

Drop the percent sign and move the decimal point two places to the left.

3%->3.0->0.03.

Anyway, I played around with my Prizm for a bit. It does have percent support. I'd post a screenshot, but my manager software is expired.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 27, 2011, 03:20:55 am
I suggest if you buy a color calc, don't buy the NSpire CX -- it only has Lua, and a decently slow implementation at that.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Prizm had Lua support within the next month or two.
I agree with this. But if you ever want to have a black and white TI I would recommend the following:
-TI nspire with 84 keypad. This has the nspire and the well known 84 included. The 84 is probably the most known TI calc, with the most programs made for it.
-NOT a TI 83(non plus)
-A 68K calc(preferably not the ti 92(non-plus) one)

Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: AngelFish on May 27, 2011, 04:01:58 am
I suggest if you buy a color calc, don't buy the NSpire CX -- it only has Lua, and a decently slow implementation at that.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Prizm had Lua support within the next month or two.

I hope you mean Casio has an interpreter, because there's no way I'm going to get a acceptable version of Khavi out that soon :P
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: z80man on May 27, 2011, 04:19:52 am
I suggest if you buy a color calc, don't buy the NSpire CX -- it only has Lua, and a decently slow implementation at that.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Prizm had Lua support within the next month or two.

I hope you mean Casio has an interpreter, because there's no way I'm going to get a acceptable version of Khavi out that soon :P
We don't know what Casio is going to do yet. My guess is that they will have an OS update sometime in August or possibly July. And this update will include something big.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: AngelFish on May 27, 2011, 04:23:20 am
An interpreter is a ton of work unless you can use already existing source code, especially threaded ones. The best way to put it is like writing a mini-OS. I can't imagine Casio would get enough from an interpreter to justify the effort.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Ashbad on May 27, 2011, 06:08:09 am
I suggest if you buy a color calc, don't buy the NSpire CX -- it only has Lua, and a decently slow implementation at that.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Prizm had Lua support within the next month or two.

I hope you mean Casio has an interpreter, because there's no way I'm going to get a acceptable version of Khavi out that soon :P

Oh :P well good luck, we're all excited for Khavi's release :)
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 27, 2011, 06:43:26 am
Do you remember how you did it?

Wow I got ninja'd by way too many posts
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: JosJuice on May 27, 2011, 09:03:17 am
-TI nspire with 84 keypad. This has the nspire and the well known 84 included. The 84 is probably the most known TI calc, with the most programs made for it.
The Nspire is actually quite terrible at emulating the 84+. It works well for math, but many games fail to work at all. A normal 84+/84+SE would be better than an Nspire.
I suggest if you buy a color calc, don't buy the NSpire CX -- it only has Lua, and a decently slow implementation at that.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Prizm had Lua support within the next month or two.

I hope you mean Casio has an interpreter, because there's no way I'm going to get a acceptable version of Khavi out that soon :P
We don't know what Casio is going to do yet. My guess is that they will have an OS update sometime in August or possibly July. And this update will include something big.
I don't really see any reason for them to include Lua, and I don't think they're going to add anything large like that this soon... I mean, the Prizm isn't even fully released yet! (Manager PLUS can't be bought, image converter is not available, etc.)
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Ashbad on May 27, 2011, 11:21:45 am
The next big update will probably be something like 3D graphing, fixing bugs, and the like.

3D graphing on the Prizm would be more than possible.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Munchor on May 27, 2011, 12:43:10 pm
The next big update will probably be something like 3D graphing, fixing bugs, and the like.

3D graphing on the Prizm would be more than possible.

Like in the Nspire? I think that'd be great, even though I'm more interested in the way documents and pictures are handled. I'd love to be able to send pngs and such to my PRIZM.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: JosJuice on May 27, 2011, 12:51:18 pm
I'd love to be able to send pngs and such to my PRIZM.
There is going to be an image converter soon, so that you can easily turn PNGs (and JPGs and stuff) into a g3p.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 03, 2011, 08:47:40 pm
Given that somebody is porting Lua to the 9860G, I wouldn't be surprised if it could be ported to the PRIZM once finished too.

Having Lua on both the Prizm and Nspire could make program porting a bit easier, aside from screen size and memory differences.
Title: Re: Should I get a Prizm?
Post by: Spyro543 on June 03, 2011, 08:49:14 pm
Lua to 9860G? Cool!