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Omnimaga => Discontinued => Our Projects => OmnomIRC Development => Topic started by: Netham45 on April 08, 2011, 03:42:13 pm

Title: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Netham45 on April 08, 2011, 03:42:13 pm
Pretty simple poll, should I allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Munchor on April 08, 2011, 03:44:06 pm
I believe colours is cool :D
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Eeems on April 08, 2011, 03:44:35 pm
I think there should be a post limit, or you should make it so we are able to disable it for certain users due to the fact that it could be abused.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: alberthrocks on April 08, 2011, 03:44:43 pm
I'd say yes, although I would increase the post count just a little bit to prevent abusive users, since people who've just started using the chat might go wild... :P

EDIT: I'd also add the blacklist part too as Eeems pointed out above, in case someone tends to be a bit too color happy :P
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: ztrumpet on April 08, 2011, 03:49:35 pm
I think there should be a post limit, or you should make it so we are able to disable it for certain users due to the fact that it could be abused.
I believe in exactly what Eeems said. :)
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Runer112 on April 08, 2011, 03:50:01 pm
I voted no. Bots use colors and bold/underline tags to help their outputs be more easily read, as they often consist of multiple fields that could otherwise be hard to separate and decipher by readers. For a person who is just using IRC to chat, though, colors don't really serve a useful purpose. Colored text also helps distinguish people from bots by relying on bots talking in colored text and humans talking in plain text, a theme I have noticed in a number of IRC channels that I find very helpful. And just like you don't text or email people with lots of colors, you shouldn't IRC to them with lots of colors. If I did receive an email with lots of colored text, I would immediately think: spam. Which is also the only possible use for colors in OmnomIRC that I can think of.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Netham45 on April 08, 2011, 03:51:50 pm
That's what I was thinking too, Runer. Little is added to communication through colors.

Bold and italic possibly, though Omnom doesn't support them at all currently.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Munchor on April 08, 2011, 03:52:30 pm
I think there should be a post limit, or you should make it so we are able to disable it for certain users due to the fact that it could be abused.

I'd say yes, although I would increase the post count just a little bit to prevent abusive users, since people who've just started using the chat might go wild... :P

EDIT: I'd also add the blacklist part too as Eeems pointed out above, in case someone tends to be a bit too color happy :P

I think there should be a post limit, or you should make it so we are able to disable it for certain users due to the fact that it could be abused.
I believe in exactly what Eeems said. :)

I agree with you all.

Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 08, 2011, 04:25:52 pm
I vote so using colors installs a virus on people computer that plays an endless recording of every internet meme songs at once forever.

Nah seriously I don't think they are necessary. I vote no, but if they get added anyway people still need to remember to not abuse them, because the bots already got colors differencing them from regular messages.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Jim Bauwens on April 08, 2011, 05:18:35 pm
I think you could enable it for users above n posts. (replace n with 200, 500, etc).
This way only well established users (certainly not trolls) will be able to use it.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Ashbad on April 08, 2011, 05:19:22 pm
I think you could enable it for users above n posts. (replace n with 200, 500, etc).
This way only well established users (certainly not trolls) will be able to use it.

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Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Happybobjr on April 08, 2011, 05:58:47 pm
2 things.

1000 post limit or so for colors.
and
Give moderators a color banning ability.

Oh, and one more thing.  No Yellow or White! :/
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Darl181 on April 08, 2011, 07:13:51 pm
It's been said already, but with a post count limit of 200-500 or so, with mods having color limiting ability.
Also bold, italic and underline can be useful
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: JonimusPrime on April 08, 2011, 07:17:36 pm
No, colors in IRC are annoying enough as it is, don't kill the readability of the chat box by having it spammed with colors.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 08, 2011, 08:05:06 pm
Voted no. We already have different colors to differentiate between bots and emotes. It isn't really necessary, and would hinder readability. Especially when the chat gets spammy.

*Edit* 1400th post! :)
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Juju on April 08, 2011, 08:13:05 pm
Well, if people are enough responsible with colors on IRC, people should be responsible on OmnomIRC as well. So add them so we have them when we need them.

Also make the doc on how to add colors hard to find, so most people will not know of them when they will first have access to OmnomIRC. :P
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 08, 2011, 09:49:46 pm
2 things.

1000 post limit or so for colors.
and
Give moderators a color banning ability.

Oh, and one more thing.  No Yellow or White! :/
The problem is that it woN,t stop the 1000+ post users from abusing colors, though. But yeah, personally IRC colors are useless for chat, IMHO. I don't mind Spybot having them, as it makes the new posts stand out and helps making the chat readable, but I think that's enough. If the entire chat starts having multicolor lines it's gonna get hectic to read, not to mention certain IRC users got a different background color and will not be able to read half of the text.

#omnimaga has no zero-tolerance policy towards colors, but if they are abused it is considered spam, anyway.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Netham45 on April 08, 2011, 10:06:17 pm
I'm having a real hard time imagining a real use for colors...
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: apcalc on April 08, 2011, 10:07:14 pm
The only practical purpose I can think of for colors would be for a mod to send a message, but other than that, I can't think of any.  I think it would be best to keep the colors disabled.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 08, 2011, 10:12:46 pm
Or to troll Netham45.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: ztrumpet on April 08, 2011, 10:21:58 pm
I'd use them after using /me and messing up part of the message, to make the correction in the appropriate color. ;)
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Juju on April 08, 2011, 10:22:30 pm
Well, I know channels where everyone have a script to write in color, complete with different colors for the first, the last and even a random letter in between. Of course, some of them are unreadable with a black background.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on April 09, 2011, 04:17:52 am
If you leave them in a browser extension, then new people wouldn't know how to use it(We would hide Jim's code). Then when they ask for it, and we think they'll not abuse it, we could pm them the code to put in their bookmarks bar.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: jnesselr on April 09, 2011, 07:38:10 pm
Yeah, I say add them tentatively.  Like if you have X number of posts or something, otherwise just do a browser extension.

I voted to yes, add them, but see posts. ie, this post.
Title: Re: Should I Allow colors in OmnomIRC?
Post by: Juju on April 09, 2011, 07:43:39 pm
Well, with the browser extension, you could easily put an help page somewhere in a menu.