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General Discussion => Technology and Development => Computer Usage and Setup Help => Topic started by: Snake X on December 05, 2010, 03:38:20 pm

Title: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 05, 2010, 03:38:20 pm
Ok. So, I'm not really back but I just thought that I would post something and I wanted to get some opinions on this. I am building a new computer and I am buying these parts: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14559305

I will hopefully be able to afford them all and build everything well. I wanted to know what I would maybe change, add, remove, etc. to better my computer.

note: there are missing things (such as hard drive, mice, keyboard, monitor, speakers, etc) because I already have those things.

GTX 580 FTW! please dont tell me that's way overboard, thats the last thing I want to hear in any reply >.< im buying that specific model for a reason
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: jnesselr on December 05, 2010, 03:58:18 pm
Man, that GTX 580 is WAY overboard, j/k

The i7 looks nice. The Ripsaw ram looks like it has a good price for 4GB, the only thing I'm curious about is that tower.  Unless you plan to do liquid cooling, I would go with a bit cheaper one.

Other than that, looks nice.

Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 05, 2010, 04:01:37 pm
Yeah.. Well I need a full sized tower to house that graphics card lol. Yeah, I agree $139 is a bit for it and Ill look at some others.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 05, 2010, 04:02:21 pm
One tip: Unless you're an intel fanboy (some people are) AMD Processors are faster for their price. Plus, the Phenom II is faster than an i7, if you're going for super-awesome. There tend to be fewer mobos for amd tho.

Your video card is out of stock :P may I recommend this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134124 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134124) one? same RAM, GPU, and even a lower price, plus it's in stock. :P

That will be one awesome computer :P drool

of course, you can ignore my input. You'll still have an awesome computer.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 05, 2010, 04:09:51 pm
Reason being is that its just a preference of mine to go with evga. Also, not exactly same speed.. :P I am buying evga's super clocked version so its slightly faster. Also, I don't really mind that its out of stock because im not buying this thing any time soon as you can imagine. Yes I am an intel fanboy lol, so thats why im going with the well known solid i7. Dang aslo i just realized lol i might wanna buy the haf 932 case *with the side window* :P it wouldnt be much fun without that kool side view :p
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 05, 2010, 04:13:19 pm
Well, either way it'll be better than mine :P nvidia Geforce 7200 ftw!
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 05, 2010, 04:40:50 pm
question.. should I buy my computer as I get the money or all at once? I'm thinking all at once.. but im not sure really
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: shmibs on December 05, 2010, 05:20:57 pm
it's probably better to buy it all at once, just so you know you'll be able to get everything and won't end up having to compensate if something is discontinued(i doubt that would be an issue, as it sounds like you're going for common/well known parts, but paranoia is always a good thing when it comes to electronics.) additionally, it will be much more satisfying if you buy everything at once.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 05, 2010, 05:23:01 pm
Will this run Starcraft II maxed out at 1980x1080 at 60 fps? O.O
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 05, 2010, 06:27:08 pm
GTX 580 FTW! please dont tell me that's way overboard, thats the last thing I want to hear in any reply >.< im buying that specific model for a reason
Waaay overboard. Still, you're lucky to have such a big budget for it. Also, you could probably get a cooler looking case for the money you're spending on it. (Unless you like it on the plain side) May I recommend this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146058&Tpk=nzxt%20m59) one?

Will this run Starcraft II maxed out at 1980x1080 at 60 fps? O.O

It'll probably run at 2560x1600, and with the right hardware, in 3d vision (120fps).

Oh yeah, and one more thing - There's rumors going around that a GTX 590 will be released, which would be epiiiiiiiic!
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 05, 2010, 07:54:12 pm
ooooohhh! wow that makes me excited. Yeah lol the gtx 580 will run anything and everything at amazing fps. Fps's get gr8 fps :p

edit: sorry.. due to the graphics card, I need a full sized ATX case.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 05, 2010, 11:00:23 pm
Darn... when I bought my computer (i7) lots of people said I had a powerful machine, but if I max out Starcraft II settings and resolution to 1920x1080, I get about 14 FPS. For a good speed increase (between 10 and 35) I need to set it to 1280x720 and for max FPS, medium settings.

Good luck Snake X with building your computer!
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 06, 2010, 04:22:37 pm
What GPU do you have?
It's annoying how PC manufacturers get a great CPU and completely ignore the GPU to cut costs - and if you select a GPU upgrade when you're buying, it's like $200 extra for a $100 card. And laptops, unless you go with a pricey gaming one, there is almost always only integrated graphics.
My computer cannot play any games. It has a Quadro NVS 120, which is a GEforce Go 7400, with the Quadro brand, and drivers optimized for 2d gfx.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 06, 2010, 04:50:47 pm
NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 1536 MB. It has high memory, but I'm not sure if it's good otherwise. Some 32 MB cards trumps 128 MB ones. Example: my old Intel Celeron 128 MB card has no pixel shader 2.0 support, but some 32 MB cards do, it seems.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 06, 2010, 07:58:33 pm
yeah. Well I did see a ~$800 computer with a geforce dedicated graphics card in it. it was an acer I think, came out this year on newegg.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 06, 2010, 08:12:22 pm
Acers tend to be cheaper for that they offer, actually, from what I noticed. At a local store, two computers with the same specs had a $200 difference between both because the cheaper one was an Acer.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 06, 2010, 09:12:31 pm
NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 1536 MB. It has high memory, but I'm not sure if it's good otherwise. Some 32 MB cards trumps 128 MB ones. Example: my old Intel Celeron 128 MB card has no pixel shader 2.0 support, but some 32 MB cards do, it seems.
Yeah, makes sense. With nvidiA cards, cards ending in 300/30 and below are low end, for just video acceleration and the most basic of games, 400-600 is for budget gaming, and 700+ is high end. And with two series, the performance boost for the card with the same suffix is not very big, so a 7900gtx can beat a 9400gt. I don't even get why a low end card needs so much memory, it has the same amount as a gtx 480.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 06, 2010, 10:14:41 pm
boy, your budget is a lot higher than mine. You can use old 8000 geforces for most games (including WoW and HL2, heck, I'm using a 7200 GS for Portal!). That's what I call low-budget. A 230 would be amazing to me :P super low-end would be integrated (shudder)

Render farms need way more video mem than GPU (ratio) compared to gaming pcs.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 07, 2010, 02:11:30 am
NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 1536 MB. It has high memory, but I'm not sure if it's good otherwise. Some 32 MB cards trumps 128 MB ones. Example: my old Intel Celeron 128 MB card has no pixel shader 2.0 support, but some 32 MB cards do, it seems.
Yeah, makes sense. With nvidiA cards, cards ending in 300/30 and below are low end, for just video acceleration and the most basic of games, 400-600 is for budget gaming, and 700+ is high end. And with two series, the performance boost for the card with the same suffix is not very big, so a 7900gtx can beat a 9400gt. I don't even get why a low end card needs so much memory, it has the same amount as a gtx 480.
Yeah true. One day I might actually upgrade it, if my mobo supports it (well... assuming the one in my comp isn't integrated and that new cards fit), although now I am kinda fine. Starcraft II still looks awesome even at medium shaders setting, since shaders are all I get perfomance drops with. With everything but shaders maxed out and max res, I get 40-60 FPS unless I'm on a Fastest Money Map mid-game.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 08, 2010, 07:20:43 am
w000000T! I just found a soul saver: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595

$250 less and runs everything that i wanted it to!  :thumbsup: ;D :angel: :hyper: :w00t: ;D :D
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 08, 2010, 03:00:52 pm
nice :O. That one looks really good, I wonder if it's one of the best around that price?
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 08, 2010, 04:02:26 pm
nice :O. That one looks really good, I wonder if it's one of the best around that price?
For the 500 series, nvidiA got better chip yields, so now the 570 has 480 cores activated, like the gtx480 does.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 09, 2010, 12:14:37 am
I see. I just bought my computer about 10 months ago, but I got a bunch of money left which I could easily put on a better graphic card. :D I was waiting to see if I would get a PS3 but there are no game interesting me on the PS3 and the ones that would are already available on the 360 or PC.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 09, 2010, 12:56:07 am
And they just had to get rid of the other os feature....I was considering getting one until that. :P Now all I want is a kinect (not the xbox, just the kinect)
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 09, 2010, 01:02:21 am
Yeah I remember you could put Linux on a PS3, right? THat said, I don't game that much anymore, except maybe Starcraft II and sometimes Starcraft.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 13, 2010, 05:40:59 pm
:) well, as always, I added some more nice goodyness! This time, I switched from newegg to amazon because of a $50 price reduction (wow that makes me now $20 from braking even!). Also, I have added a super cool logitech z2300! This amazing 2.1 speaker system has a killer subwoofer (200 watts!!) and plays bass i love you pretty sweetly from youtube video's. :D

edit: lol i forgot link: http://amzn.com/w/1S707H62PO0QS  XD
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 13, 2010, 07:44:19 pm
is this replacing another pc? If so, you could cut another $20 by reusing an older drive.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 13, 2010, 07:45:40 pm
no, same one, just changed parts according to what i like and reviews. also.. resuing what older drive?
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 13, 2010, 07:56:37 pm
CD/DVD drive. they run around $20
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 23, 2010, 12:35:37 pm
Ok. Sorry for semi-necropost, but im not done yet. Can anyone help find out when I should expect the new sandy bridge motherboard and which one to buy? How much will the new i7 cost?

http://amzn.com/w/1S707H62PO0QS

^ current wishlist. I already bought the speakers (logitech z2300), mouse (logitech m500), and keyboard (logitech k350). Also, I have this all budgeted out... except I am $169.39 over budget. I need help getting it back down ???

edit: some stuffs i found about it:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2010/11/16/asus-lga1155-motherboard-preview/1
http://www.amazon.com/LGA1155-H67-USB3-SATA6G-MB/dp/B004H25X90/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1293077890&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/P67-SATA6G-TPM-CF-2PCIEX16/dp/B004H25X9U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1293077938&sr=8-2

thanks
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 23, 2010, 10:20:37 pm
Darn I wish I knew more about computers. I thought about getting a new video card at one point but I will myself need help choosing the best one for my budget when it's time to do it and make sure I know what other requirements there is, since I'm kinda computer illiterate.

Hopefully someone else can help soon. (Although I don't know how fast a response may arrive since most people will be busy with holidays)
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 24, 2010, 05:03:21 pm
I believe the i7 2600k is supposed to be $300.
I am going to build my own computer as soon as the i3 chips come out, which I hope isn't too long a wait from now.
@DJ: you might have to upgrade your PSU as well, gpus are very power hungry.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 26, 2010, 05:26:44 pm
What is a PSU? I rememeber hearing something about needing a new adapter or something when using a powerful video card, to prevent short circuits, overheating or something. Not sure anymore
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 26, 2010, 08:28:48 pm
It's a power supply unit, a box you plug the power cord into, and with lots of wires coming out of it inside the computer to power everything.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 27, 2010, 03:58:23 pm
Ah ok, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 31, 2010, 12:02:11 am
hey does anyone know where to find a raid controller card that will handle raid 61? This is the raid i will go with for my 5 hard disks and I need to be able to find one x.x

edit: heh.. turns out raid 61 needs 8 disks so nvm on that.. still:

I need help finding out what the best solution is to raid my disks (raid 1 or 6 preferred)

- 2 80 GB
- 1 120 GB
- 1 300 GB
- 1 500 GB

1080 GB total and 5 HDD's.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: z80man on December 31, 2010, 12:52:06 am
That's quite a variety of disks. I'm not sure what speeds they are, but I'm assuming the 80 gigs are ssd's. For those two I would raid 0 them and place the OS along with your most commonly used programs on there. For the 500 GB you should probaly buy another one of those (I think they run for about $30 these days) and have those in raid 1. The 120 and 300 are probaly best left as is.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 31, 2010, 01:30:38 pm
well first of all, the 80 gig's are not SSD's. I have no SSD's. I am now thinking about raid 51. Basically what I want to do now, is to build a raid 5 array with my 5 disks, buy an 8 gb SSD for a boot disk to write and install os files and win7 on it, then I want to mirror my windows os onto the raid 5 array using raid 1 (to mirror it). The reason I do this, is so I can make absolute sure that the 8 GB will be used for booting on, and then I can mirror that os onto my raid 5 array and write/install all my files on while still keeping my boot drive at the same time. Does this make sense to you? What would be my best option if i wanted to do this kind of thing? Would I be able to select my boot drive in a raid 5 anyways thus just sticking with raid 5 instead of raid 51?  ???
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 31, 2010, 01:40:08 pm
I never really saw the point of Raid at all. A new hard drive should last you about 6-8 years with semi-heavy use, and they aren't really super failure-prone.

Also, you will never need to use Raid 0. All it does is make 2 drives act like one, and you have double the chance of getting them corrupted. Why not simply use them as separate drives? you don't really gain anything but a little convienience.

A RAID5 setup will act like 1 disk, period. It also does some mirroring which makes it like Raid 1 somewhat, but you need more hard drives in the setup.

Never Raid larger disks to smaller ones. It will make them all the same size as the smaller if you do.

Why make a 51 array? You will lose a TON of space! Raid 51 means Raiding several RAID 5 arrays into a raid1 array.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 31, 2010, 01:48:21 pm
first of all, its not the smallest size disk. It is [number of disks - 2] * size of smallest disk. In my case, that would be 300 GB which is double what I have now. That would be without the 8 GB ofc. I am thinking though about just JDBODing all of them. I do agree with you about raid 0 (i dont even know why it exists, jboding is much better). So, if I JBOD'd all of my disks (including this imaginative 8 GB SSD that I have bought), would I still be able to make that 8 GB SSD for booting only?
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 31, 2010, 01:56:16 pm
Just leave it out of all the arrays. Otherwise, everything will be treated as one disk, and controlling booting will be harder.

I fail to see the point of JBODing either, unless you mean simply using them all independently. JBODing is about on par with RAID0, with the pros and cons. You get pretty much all of its advantages by simply using the drives as separate volumes, and you have fewer recovery issues if one fails, since all the others keep on functioning.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 31, 2010, 03:29:26 pm
The point is with JBODing is with unlike with raid 0, I can have any hard drive failure, but just loosing whatever data is on that hard drive, instead of loosing about 1/4 bits of data that I cant get back and thus leaving the other 3 rendered useless. Yes, I would know that I would leave that SSD out of the array, but how would I install my games and my programs at? I mean lol i cant work with only 8 GB of data.
For the 500 GB you should probaly buy another one of those (I think they run for about $30 these days)

I would love to know where to get these $30 500 GB HDD's at ;D
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 31, 2010, 03:30:45 pm
You don't need them JBODed together to access them all. Quick question though: are you using Windows, linux or Mac? If you're using windows, simply point a specific Game's install path to F: instead of C:, or similar.

I'm not sure for macs, but for linux, if you have /bin mounted to a different Partition and /home mounted to a different partition, etc. you can have, say, one drive running your home folder, one that holds the /bin area, where all the executable progs you've installed have a shortcut to, probably also /usr on that one, but so on. It's worth noting that the only one that'll really get huge in Linux is your /home, since the other areas only hold programs that are actually "installed" onto your system, and config files. During the installation on most Linux installations you can set those mount points up during the same time you're setting up your swap space.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: AngelFish on December 31, 2010, 03:31:06 pm
Here (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=500+GB+HDD&um=1&biw=1366&bih=576&ie=UTF-8&cid=17148002124327055764&ei=Sj0eTbutN5S0sAPB4aXGCg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CNQBEPMCMAo#)  :P
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 31, 2010, 03:32:42 pm
I'm seeing $43 and up there :P not $30
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 31, 2010, 03:36:09 pm
I am using windows for this. But what happens if there is no choice to the install path for some stuff? :s

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Y5XR72/sr=8-3/qid=1293827720/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1293827720&sr=8-3&seller=
$45 :s

anything for $30 or less? ???
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: AngelFish on December 31, 2010, 03:39:11 pm
That's odd. It must be doing local sales. I'm seeing $37 dollars.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 31, 2010, 03:40:47 pm
Base price or total? I saw that $37 but it had $11 shipping :P

Also, then you could just move it afterwards. :P Most big stuff will have an install path, and the smaller stuff probably won't care if you move it.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 31, 2010, 03:41:52 pm
no you were seeing $37. I just found it at amazon for $45 b/c i trust them.

@will:

grand total: 1356.43 thats including all taxes and all shipping fee's

edit: that includes

memory - 78 (78)
case - 148.38 (139.99)
psu - 150.77 (142.24)
dvd drive - 118.48 (87.27)
keyboard - 57.59
video card - 392.19 (369.99)
Core i5-2500K - 225 (216)
motherboard - 211.99 (199.99)

the amount in the parentheses is the price w/o taxes and the one you first see if the final price
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 31, 2010, 03:42:52 pm
Wow. That is pricey :P It'll be really cool though!
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 31, 2010, 03:43:52 pm
heh.. total i bet it would cost ~$1600

http://amzn.com/w/1S707H62PO0QS
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: willrandship on December 31, 2010, 03:45:17 pm
If you bought it from alienware I bet it would cost you ~$2000 :P
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on December 31, 2010, 03:52:09 pm
ikr. Thats why i knew i would want to custom buy my machine. Also, the core i5 is in place of the Core i5-2500K lga 1155 p67 sandy bridge. And the mother board is budgeted at $200
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on January 01, 2011, 01:20:02 am
Unless youre planning to get another video card, why not get an h67 mobo?
Tell us how much of an improvement sandy bridge is, once you build it. I could either get the new sandy bridge, or get an old cpu for a lot less.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on January 13, 2011, 07:27:58 am
Unless youre planning to get another video card, why not get an h67 mobo?
Tell us how much of an improvement sandy bridge is, once you build it. I could either get the new sandy bridge, or get an old cpu for a lot less.

well, the sandy bridge processors are cheap compared to the $1000 i7 980x. Also, I'm planning to use a nvidia GTX 570... which means I should get a p67 motherboard to use that capability, because the graphics core in the processor is aimed for mainline gaming (not high end).

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14559305
current wishlist.

I am actually going with the i7-2600k and the N570GTX on this one (hopefully the twin frozr II edition if they release it :D )
Also, any suggestions for my build? is there anything I could improve on? I myself don't think so, but I wanna hear what you guys have to say 8)
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on January 13, 2011, 05:46:57 pm
Looks good to me! Check the lengths of your psu cables, because you have a full tower bottom psu mount case, the CPU and mobo power cables might not reach, or wont be long enough to run behind the motherboard. Try this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812201022&cm_re=Apevia_power_extension-_-12-201-022-_-Product), it has both CPU and mobo cables in one pack.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on January 24, 2011, 08:45:11 pm
it's been a while.. ok so ive moved my wishlist to amazon.. had a tighter and tighter budget more and more, then i thought 'where is my money going to? ??? ' then i moved all my stuff back to newegg and compared all my products with amazon. Lo and behold i got so much more money back into my budget that I am now able to upgrade to the i7-2600k, and the gtx 570 Twin Frozr II OC design from MSI. Also, i am adding the A70 air cooler for chip. I also added the gtx 460 hawk to my wishlist, but that's for much later purchase (at christmas). Also, im pretty sure ima get the HX850 psu in preperation for SLI mode. Also, changed from asus motherboard branding to MSI. by that switch, i was also able to save even more. With my current wishlist and all the things on it (minus the gtx 460), i am about $80 over budget. My case has been ordered and so has the motherboard. I bought a haf 932 blue edition (BLUE LED's FTW) which will look pretty nice and I have yet to add a wifi/bluetooth card to my wishlist.

wow that was a mouthful

current wishlist: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14559305

edit: for the record the gtx 460 hawk talon attack edition is faster than the gtx 470 (at least that's what the box says) ^.^
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 24, 2011, 09:12:23 pm
Personally I always found that Amazon stuff were more expensive than anywhere else. This is why I stopped buying anything here.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on January 25, 2011, 06:25:27 pm
:o wow. Heh.. ironically my brother in law now works for amazon and he was floored when i told him how i could upgrade my cpu because of the switch lol. Also, I changed it to add a nice corsair A70 cpu heatsink, and I upgraded my psu to the HX850 because I will indeed be running dual graphics in the future. Also, I changed my 2nd graphics card option from the N460GTX hawk talon attack to the N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II OC edition.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 27, 2011, 01:19:30 am
Cool :D

I'm still debatting about upgrading my graphic card or not. Starcraft II in medium shading mode doesn't look that bad after all and I hardly play anything besides SC1, 2 and Minecraft. I'll see later, I guess.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: z80man on January 27, 2011, 01:58:08 am
For me I'm waiting for amd's 6990 card. Although it is expensive I just have to have it.  ;D Also waiting out on amd's bulldozer chip. Which will 8 frickin!!! cores and 4 256 bit fpu's  :o Also good is that I will be able to turn my current computer into a minecraft server with 8 gigs of ram.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on January 30, 2011, 07:58:04 am
haha nice. Ok, so amazing news. I WILL HAVE MY COMPUTER IN JUST OVER A WEEK!  :w00t:
I took my money that I would be able to use today (including my yet to be sold computer) and I looked to see what I could do with that alone. Amazingly enough, I was able to find 3 of the same parts and 2 that were extremely similar and formulated a budget where I can buy all the components all at once.

my wishlist for my remaining components: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13351211
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 31, 2011, 02:55:58 am
Awesome! I'm glad you're finally getting it. I hope you don't have too much troubles setting it up. :)
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: z80man on January 31, 2011, 03:34:35 am
Make sure you distribute power evenly from your power supply. That caused problems for me when I first set up my system. (I was trying to use as few cables as possible, which caused the gpu to fail)  :o
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on January 31, 2011, 08:45:04 pm
dont worry, its a single +12V rail ^.^

edit: also im doing a re-install of (both) operating systems because ironically, i have 65,000+ rootkits on my mac partition according to avg rootkit scanner on my windows side :-X :crazy:
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 01, 2011, 02:46:59 pm
Ouch that sucks. That reminds me... I need to reformat my old desktop at one point...
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 03, 2011, 02:27:22 pm
Good luck getting your mobo. Intel just recalled all 1155 boards because of a chipset bug.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 03, 2011, 04:03:34 pm
yep that's why I now do not have a computer until april. See, I listed my comptuer on ebay monday and the day before yesterday (when the bug was announced) my computer sold about an hour later and now I can't buy my cpu because they recalled it and that's why I don't have a computer until april.. although my dad might obtain me a free mac mini G4. Nothing special, all I hope is it can run IRC and the JDK for my class. I got my motherboard before hand so I have to RMA that as well :(

even though all that happened.. this is good for me because I will have enough money to save for the computer parts I would have eventually bought if i waited until march, so yay.. kinda :s
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 04, 2011, 12:26:21 am
Wow congrats on the fast Ebay sale. When you get your new computer, does it means you'll be online more here? :D
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 04, 2011, 09:09:06 pm
oh definitely 8)

good-bad news kinda. My dad lost his job (company is being sold) so ima have to buy all the parts that he would have bought me.. but that's ok because I can afford what I need fortunately. Also im glad newegg prepaid my shipping label and waived the restocking fee for a true 100% refund :D

current wishlist: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=14559305

In addition to that I will be buying avg internet security, windows 7 professional edition (educational discount), and re-buying the motherboard I had to send back once its out
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: souvik1997 on February 04, 2011, 11:50:44 pm
Don't use AVG, use Avast! or Microsoft Security Essentials. Both are free, iirc.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 04, 2011, 11:59:12 pm
What's wrong with AVG, though? You should state a reason why one should use Avast over AVG so it won't look like software fanboyism, considering all 3 softwares you mentionned are available for free. I never had troubles with AVG on my old computer, except that it used to be so friggin hard to find the free version online. I like Avast, though, since it automatically updated for me and like the free version of AVG it was free.

Also sorry to hear Snake X. X.x
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 05, 2011, 09:30:37 am
yeah in-fact in my case AVG free actually caught a worm that microsoft essentials didnt catch! :o

edit: and yes, please tell me why microsoft security essentials should be chosen. In my case, im getting avg internet security 2011
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 05, 2011, 12:47:02 pm
Oh you mean Internet Security, which isn't free. In that case I wonder if you wouldn't be better with the free version or Avast, combined with another software like Spybot Search and Destroy?Note: If you be careful you shouldn't even need the latter. This comp runs only with Avast and I never got any spyware or the like: I simply watch out what site I fill forms on and avoid downloading torrents containing zip/rar/tar/gz/exe files.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 05, 2011, 04:08:01 pm
avg internet security seems to be working for me ok. I do a lot of websurfing and dl'ing and I havn't caught anything.. untill recently (not sure how that even happned though.. might be via utorrent or SysReset). Although I will still keep utorrent, I won't be seeding the music torrent anymore because im affraid that's where it came from. other than that idk
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: souvik1997 on February 06, 2011, 12:24:31 am
What's wrong with AVG, though? You should state a reason why one should use Avast over AVG so it won't look like software fanboyism, considering all 3 softwares you mentionned are available for free. I never had troubles with AVG on my old computer, except that it used to be so friggin hard to find the free version online. I like Avast, though, since it automatically updated for me and like the free version of AVG it was free.
Also sorry to hear Snake X. X.x

In my experience, AVG always caused my computers to become really sluggish, but Avast! and MS Security Essentials did not, although that may be because I have relatively slow
computers.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 06, 2011, 12:30:56 am
Ah ok. Weird. That could maybe be why my old Celeron is slow, although it could just be bloated with plenty of stuff I installed over the time. On that computer, Avast always nearly froze it during virus database updates, though. That process always seemed so CPU-intensive. As a result I usually disabled updates when playing games (it updated about 3 times a day for a while)
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 06, 2011, 06:04:19 pm
hmm.. well I will be getting a fast computer anyways and I dont think I will be affected... hopefully. There was this one antivirus that was a horrid nightmare. The database was great, but the program... very bad. Only functionality it had was a full computer scan, and it would not auto-remove any viruses leaving you to memorize them before my computer would BSOD after finishing the scan. :x
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 08, 2011, 12:39:28 am
Was it Norton? :P
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 09, 2011, 04:31:49 pm
YESSS!! computer parts ordered :w00t:
Now to wait for motherboard and cpu... any speculation as to when those will be re-released? (I herd april/late march)
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 09, 2011, 09:08:56 pm
I heard the same...
I wonder if the mobo manufacturers will sell the bad mobos for a discount? I would buy one if I could, I wont ever need more than 1 dvd and 1 hdd.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 10, 2011, 09:16:25 am
why would they re-sell the broken ones? The answer to that is no, since msi is re-releasing the motherboard fixed and taking the old ones if you have one and giving you an updated model at no cost. Sorry about that

edit: sorry if i sounded mean :s
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 10, 2011, 06:39:12 pm
I guess I wasn't clear enough.
Some people will never use more than 2 sata ports, so they could sell off the bad motherboards for a (much) lower price, clearly labeled that the 3gbps sata ports will not work, to make a little more money.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 10, 2011, 06:47:23 pm
Probably not.. I don't think ive seen that happen before really.

edit: Ok. So computer parts shipped FINALLY! :D Also, I think it might be a good thing that I had to RMA my motherboard because that will give me the chance to buy a z68 motherboard... if it compares well enough. I will be definitely be getting the i5-2500k however.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 12, 2011, 07:28:53 pm
Good to hear!
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 19, 2011, 10:33:05 pm
Ok so question. Does anyone know of a 'break-in' time period for a cpu? My dad told me to leave it running for 24 hours min w/o adjusting anything to get the cpu broken in and running smoothly.. anyone know of this or if I should do that or what? ???

EDIT: I got my CPU yesterday as well :D already applied the case badge (slightly crooked :( )
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 20, 2011, 09:42:30 am
I've heard many things - breakins are not necessary, 48 hours, and even a whole week.It won't do any harm, though.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 20, 2011, 05:19:21 pm
yeah ive herd about the same thing. I'll just consult what the instructions say, and leave it to break in for a week. After that its OC'd :P

BTW I just bought win7 ultimate x64 today :D

1 LAST PART!!!!!!1 (being the motherboard)  :angel:
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 23, 2011, 02:37:06 pm
By break in do you mean not using it for a while after finishing building it?

Also congrats on getting almost every part so far. I hope they all go well together.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 23, 2011, 03:52:55 pm
Break in is just leaving the computer on for a while to make sure none of the components are defective.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: z80man on February 23, 2011, 03:56:26 pm
And by break in do you mean running a stability test to make sure the OC worked.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on February 23, 2011, 04:13:44 pm
Break in is just leaving the computer on for a while to make sure none of the components are defective.

umm yeah pretty much that. I wanna get the thermal compound settled and whatnot before i do any type of OC'ing whatsoever to make sure that "maximum thermal transfer capabilities can be reached". so yeah
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 23, 2011, 08:20:13 pm
Ah I see, thanks for the info. :) I was wondering if it was related to not letting the computer run for too long and give it breaks when you get it and the like and I was confused, since many people leave theirs running 24/7 and mine went in that state about 6 hours after getting it (not earlier, because it was 30F outside when I got it back home from the store and there could have been humidity and stuff)
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on March 04, 2011, 04:56:16 pm
I ORDERED MY MOTHERBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111~~!!!!!!!!!!!  :w00t: :w00t: :hyper: :angel: ;D ;D :D

Rush processing included  :P
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: ParkerR on March 06, 2011, 10:28:11 pm
I usually have enough parts laying around at any given time to build a computer. The main processor I have multiple of is a Pentium 4 2.66ghz. Not too bad of a chip in my humble opinion. If I don't have certain parts like heatsink clips I will just use zip-ties to hold it together. On one I had to use the zip-ties to hold the heatsink and a screw to hold in the fan. Works quite nicely. In the future I want to build up a nice machine that will do anything I throw at it. At the moment my dream config would be an i7 with at least 8gb of RAM and 1tb hard drive. Biggest hard drive I have ever owned is in this laptop and is 320gb.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 07, 2011, 11:47:09 pm
I ORDERED MY MOTHERBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111~~!!!!!!!!!!!  :w00t: :w00t: :hyper: :angel: ;D ;D :D

Rush processing included  :P
I'M glad to hear. I hope everything works together :D

Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: fb39ca4 on March 10, 2011, 05:22:50 pm
I usually have enough parts laying around at any given time to build a computer. The main processor I have multiple of is a Pentium 4 2.66ghz. Not too bad of a chip in my humble opinion. If I don't have certain parts like heatsink clips I will just use zip-ties to hold it together. On one I had to use the zip-ties to hold the heatsink and a screw to hold in the fan. Works quite nicely. In the future I want to build up a nice machine that will do anything I throw at it. At the moment my dream config would be an i7 with at least 8gb of RAM and 1tb hard drive. Biggest hard drive I have ever owned is in this laptop and is 320gb.
Make sure those zip ties are down tight, or you might hear a sizzling sound coming from your CPU.
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on March 10, 2011, 05:26:10 pm
:D this post is made from my computer! I need help though. My wifi card wont fit and its a mini pci express card found here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106062

What pci slot does that go into? it says mini pci express but idk. help!
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: XVicarious on March 10, 2011, 05:34:41 pm
Well if it says mini....
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on March 10, 2011, 05:37:22 pm
that doesn't mean a thing unfortunately. My motherboard had the following ports:
2 PCIex16 slots, PCI Gen2 (1x16, 1x8), 3 PCI-Ex1, and 2 PCI
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: XVicarious on March 10, 2011, 05:39:44 pm
I found this: http://www.hwtools.net/adapter/mp1.html

I guess you just plug in your MiniPCIe into it and plug it into your computer
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on March 10, 2011, 05:46:08 pm
for $25 im better off buying this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: XVicarious on March 10, 2011, 05:47:37 pm
Meh, but you really want to use one USB port for that?
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: Snake X on March 10, 2011, 05:49:53 pm
yes, I have plenty in the back...
Title: Re: building a computer!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 11, 2011, 01:00:41 am
I'm glad to see your computer kinda works in overall. I hope you can fix your wifi card issue soon. I wonder how well will your computer handle games?