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General Discussion => Technology and Development => Computer Usage and Setup Help => Topic started by: lookitsan00b on June 07, 2011, 06:54:14 pm

Title: Operating systems questions
Post by: lookitsan00b on June 07, 2011, 06:54:14 pm
Ok I know nothing in this area (well, not much). I don't even know what a Linux really is. So, my questions:

1: Is it possible, by some extreme feat of awesomeness, to run a mac OS on a pc, but leaving windows on it as well? I don't care how, so long as I can switch without too much work.  Only reason I ask is because my mother is getting me a pc laptop for college, and I really wanted to do some iOS dev. :banghead:

2: Can Windows 7 run Roller Coaster Tycoon(the original, both expansions)? :) ;) :D ;D :P :hyper:
Cuz I heard they dropped 16 bit compatibility, and I'm not sure how many bits RCT has. And I'd have to poke microsoft real hard if it doesn't work.

3: What is Linux? :P (jk, but only a little)
Title: Re: Operating systems questions
Post by: AngelFish on June 07, 2011, 06:58:12 pm
1) Theoretically, although I think you'd have to use a virtual machine to do it simultaneously.
2) Probably, since most computers can switch the number of bits used. If not, then emulators/virtual machines are available.
3) A kernel that manages the hardware and the low level OS stuff like threading. The only thing all Linux distributions share in common is that they use the Linux Kernel.
Title: Re: Operating systems questions
Post by: lookitsan00b on June 07, 2011, 07:06:01 pm
1) Theoretically, although I think you'd have to use a virtual machine to do it simultaneously.
I kinda meant having both on the harddrive at the same time, not both running :P And if anyone knows how, that'd be nice... ;)
2) Probably, since most computers can switch the number of bits used. If not, then emulators/virtual machines are available.
I really hope so...
3) A kernel that manages the hardware and the low level OS stuff like threading. The only thing all Linux distributions share in common is that they use the Linux Kernel.
I kinda meant the higher level stuff but if they're all basically different then... ::)
Title: Re: Operating systems questions
Post by: jnesselr on June 07, 2011, 11:20:08 pm
1) I have it set up that way, but I use a mac, with a secondary boot camp partition for windows.  You might be able to set up a hackintosh (just google it) but I can't help with that, as I've never done it.
2) Emulators are probably your best bet here, anyway.
3) Essentially, linux is just a kernel.  It's like the base system for all the others to use.
Title: Re: Operating systems questions
Post by: Juju on June 07, 2011, 11:44:11 pm
1) So yeah, search for 'hackintosh'. It isn't legal though.
2) Try to install it in Windows 7, if it's not working, try again with Windows 98/XP in a virtual machine.
3) That's a kernel. that's what make everything working together.
Title: Re: Operating systems questions
Post by: DrDnar on June 08, 2011, 12:42:48 am
IIRC, whether or not 16-bit software is supported depends on whether you have the 64-bit or 32-bit version; the 64-bit versions of Windows drop 16-bit support. (The release date of 1999 strongly suggests that RollerCoaster Tycoon is a 32-bit program.) However, as people have previously noted, virtualization and emulation are probably the best ways to support legacy software. If your parents have a copy of Windows 98 lying around, you can install that in a virtual machine for almost guaranteed compatibility.
Title: Re: Operating systems questions
Post by: lookitsan00b on June 08, 2011, 08:01:58 pm
Actually, I do have a copy of 98 :P

After reading a bit of this wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86) I was almost yelling at apple to use RSA. Almost. :P

And after looking around a bit, i found something that says there is a legal way of doing it. It involves a perfectly legal PURCHASED copy of the os, a modified bootloader, and an apple sticker or permanent marker. Bootloader allows you to avoid DMCA, because no code is modified, and the EULA apparently restricts installing the os to only "apple-labeled systems". Thus the sticker :P
Title: Re: Operating systems questions
Post by: eriktheorange on June 08, 2011, 09:26:53 pm
I have Windows 7 64 bit and the original Roller Coaster Tycoon runs perfectly. I don't think I had to set compatibility mode for it to work, but if it doesn't just set it to Windows XP or 98 or something.
Title: Re: Operating systems questions
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 08, 2011, 11:24:02 pm
A lot of old games seems to work fine on newer OSes. I think often it depends of  if it's 16 bits or not. Warcraft II, for example, runs fine on my Windows 7 machine.