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Calculator Community => Discontinued => Major Community Projects => Escheron: Shadow over Ragnoth => Topic started by: Iambian on June 23, 2009, 12:08:44 am

Title: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Iambian on June 23, 2009, 12:08:44 am
So, I need to know how good you feel about the game. Unfortunately, I ran into a series of problems revolving around the tilemapper, and I believe it can be solved if I restrict this game to the 15MHz calculators (83+SE, 84+, 84+SE, nSpire). My question is how well you respond to this move.

Remember. If you support option #4, I encourage you to post details on-topic to get a real feel of what you think. I know DJ Omnimaga has already posted his response, but, come on. No one can resist the urge of verifying Netham45's lobsteriness!
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Galandros on June 23, 2009, 07:10:49 am
I don't mind 'cause I have a 15Mhz calculator. But I mind a little about other users with a 83+. But since there are emulators, if one really wants...

 In my class 90% has the 84+SE... So here isn't big problem. I don't know how about other places.
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Eeems on June 23, 2009, 09:54:21 am
I'm kind of stuck in between, while I don't think that you should work too hard just to please us 83+ers I think that it would be nice to be able to run it on the 6Mhz as well...
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: SolusIpse on June 23, 2009, 10:42:22 am
nSpire supports 15Mhz mode?

ya, i get the feeling that old 83+ is slowly disappearing around here because the stores sell 84+SE for only $20 more.
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: trevmeister66 on June 23, 2009, 11:16:42 am
Sorry 83+'ers, but I think it should only be for the 15mhz calcs.
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 23, 2009, 12:28:09 pm
SolusIpse, Nspire (non-CAS, the one that has an interchangeable keyboard), can emulate the TI-84+SE. It's advertised as a TI-84+, but in fact, it's a 84+SE. However, certain undocumented ASM code will not run on it. MirageOs, without the unnoficial patch, is one example. TI-Boy SE is another. Reuben Quest earthquake effect (using Z-Address screen shift) doesn't work.

Strangely enough, though, tr1p1ea can run a scrolling tilemapper fine on a reg 83+ and it has grayscale too. However, quality is questionable. Maybe a 83+ version should be made with lower grayscale quality? However, I don't mind if it's SE-only, as long as it works on Nspire or WabbitEmu so I can at least play it x.x

However, Netham45 is a lobster, so my vote went on 4th option instead of 3rd
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: simplethinker on June 23, 2009, 05:09:52 pm
I say restrict to 15MHz calcs.  The majority of calculators I see nowadays are either 83+SE, the 84 series or nSpires, which are all 15MHz.
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 24, 2009, 12:24:09 am
83SE is still rare, but 83+ calcs are getting more and more rare nowadays, due to the signifiant memory/speed gain of a 84+ for not a lot more money
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Eeems on June 24, 2009, 10:35:31 am
actually, most of the kids at my school use the 83+, not that many have 84+ and only one has a Nspire
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Cinaed666 on October 07, 2009, 12:15:17 pm
everyone I know has a regular 84+.
they haven't sold the 83 series for years here !
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: JoeyBelgier on October 07, 2009, 02:41:26 pm
don't lie, I have seen one recently in the Colruyt :p
it hangs there for about a year now tho, kinda sad, if they'd sell it for €40 I'd automaticly buy it x.x
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 07, 2009, 02:50:49 pm
Well, over here right now they only sell the Casio FX-9750G, TI-83+, 84+, 84+SE, TI-Nspire regular edition and TI-89. I heard that in France in some areas the TI-Nspire is barely avaliable (if avaliable at all) anymore due to poor sales and at many places, the TI-83+ seems to get less and less popular. The 83+ will mostly remain popular due to being cheaper, but many people are attracted by the faster speed and the larger memory.

I think they're getting rid of their FX-9750G too where I live because since 1.5 years they sell them for $25

FX-9750G is the equivalent of the older Color Screen Casio calcs, but with no color and 28 KB of RAM instead of 32
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: JoeyBelgier on October 07, 2009, 02:55:13 pm
does a FX-9750G support/ can be made able to run asm?
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 07, 2009, 03:06:11 pm
Nope. Unless maybe someone would figure out how to hack it like the TI-82, 85, 92 II and 73 to send a shell/kernel to it to run ASM programs. So far, the only Casio calcs with built in ASM support are the Algebra FX, FX-9860G and Classpad 300, and even then, you cannot use ASM programs inside BASIC games, as there are no "Asm(" or "Send(9" command like the TI-83 series
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Cinaed666 on October 07, 2009, 03:38:32 pm
don't lie, I have seen one recently in the Colruyt :p
it hangs there for about a year now tho, kinda sad, if they'd sell it for €40 I'd automaticly buy it x.x
Ha, you're from belgium? awesome.
The colruyt in what city? I have never seen one there.
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: JoeyBelgier on October 07, 2009, 04:03:41 pm
don't lie, I have seen one recently in the Colruyt :p
it hangs there for about a year now tho, kinda sad, if they'd sell it for €40 I'd automaticly buy it x.x
Ha, you're from belgium? awesome.
The colruyt in what city? I have never seen one there.
My hometown, Ninove
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Cinaed666 on October 07, 2009, 04:09:31 pm
don't lie, I have seen one recently in the Colruyt :p
it hangs there for about a year now tho, kinda sad, if they'd sell it for €40 I'd automaticly buy it x.x
Ha, you're from belgium? awesome.
The colruyt in what city? I have never seen one there.
My hometown, Ninove
NINOVE? WTH, that's so close :D
I'm often at ninove's shopping centre and game mania ^^
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: JoeyBelgier on October 07, 2009, 04:17:41 pm
Really? :D Cool-ish
Where're you from?
btw: if you visit Ninove a lot you might know me :p
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Cinaed666 on October 07, 2009, 04:42:03 pm
Really? :D Cool-ish
Where're you from?
btw: if you visit Ninove a lot you might know me :p
I'm from Kester, which isn't that far at all.
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: JoeyBelgier on October 07, 2009, 05:28:22 pm
ah =D I used to know someone there (Reinhart C., you just might know him)
I know i'm hijacking teh topic but plz forgive me; are u going to Rock Ternat?
btw: try this: http://www.omnimaga.org/irc/
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: simplethinker on October 07, 2009, 08:37:48 pm
Could you guys (NecroF-_-ckk and Cinaed666) please try and stay on topic ::)
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 07, 2009, 08:59:34 pm
It was slightly necroposting too, as I think iambian solved the issue a while ago, altough the first necropost was slightly relevant to the discussion about which calcs are still used and should have a version of the game for
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: jsj795 on October 07, 2009, 11:12:43 pm
And yeah. I voted for 4th option. I see half of kid with 83+ and the other half with 84+/SE.
I actually traded my old 83+ with 84+SE with someone, since he said he doesn't need the speed boost and the extra memory, because he doesn't program. That was my birthday gift from him lol.
I think you shouldn't work too much over trying to make it 83+ compatible. More and more users will get 84+, if not 89 or n-spire (please TI, make it more program friendly).
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: Iambian on January 26, 2010, 09:41:31 pm
Wow. Necroposting. However, the forum flagged it for me as "new" so I sorta disregarded that.

The poll has been closed (finally) and the verdict...

was in ages ago. This project is being coded for the TI-83 Plus SE / TI-84 Plus (SE). There's no turning back. Too much of the code relies on the extra memory that the higher end calcs have.

What wasn't discussed back when this poll was first established was the fact that the newer 84+'s lack much of that extra RAM, effectively giving it a total of 48KB. This isn't a problem, since the game is being coded to work with just one page of extra RAM.

Thanks for all the input and lobster votes!

EDIT: DJ Omnimaga, is there a feature of this forum that allows posts to NOT bump it to the top? I feel bad that a topic that needs no further input is placed at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Let's Choose the Platform
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 26, 2010, 10:11:50 pm
Nope, no such feature :(

I guess it's fine tho since it's your own project thread and is on topic

And yeah Netham45 is a lobster almost won the poll :P