Omnimaga
General Discussion => Technology and Development => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on August 17, 2013, 07:40:45 pm
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How to not do parallax scrolling:
While this game looks fun to play, I don't think I would be able to complete it without taking some breaks. I think I'll just keep feeling dizzy because of the weird parallax scrolling. >.<
Of course this excludes any game where you're climbing a tower and the camera is spinning around it, but now it's not the case. O.O
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Oh wow, you're right! That background scrolling is horrible. Why is the background moving so fast, and is it scrolling in the wrong direction? There's something that's just really off about it...
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Yeah apparently it was to create some sort of 3D effect, which was inflated if you weared the 3D glasses that came with the SNES version. However, with parallax scrolling going in the wrong direction like this this must get annoying after a while x.x
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I think it would be more than annoying. Without 3d glasses I feel like I'm going to be sick. x.x Maybe the glasses would help some, but I'm not so sure.
*Edit* It's a shame too, because it looks like it might have been a decent game otherwise. It's also got a pretty nice sounding 16-bit soundtrack.
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Nah I read that with the glasses it made it worse. That said, the game looks very fun to play. It's just not to be played for long length of time.
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It's weird, but I actually like the effect. Even though it's completely wrong.
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Go Home, parallax, you're drunk...
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I have a theory.
The first layer was probably originally going to be a transparent foreground. That would mean it would be scrolling the right way, and it should be fairly fast. However, it's very noisy and detailed for a foreground transparency, so they moved it back a layer and turned off transparency, without adjusting anything else.
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Another thing: Does it look like this on the real snes too or just on the emulator? Some emulators have bugs in them that cause layers to be out of order. I had that issue with the snes emulator on my nintendo DS.
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Yes it does, even the DOS and cancelled Sega Genesis versions do. I think the Amiga and Turbografx versions scrolls the right way, though.
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It does create a 3D looking effect, but the way this is done makes it look like the character keeps going in circles.
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Yeah. Back in the days they probably tried to use whatever they thought just to create a 3D effect of some sort, and I even saw NES games being called 2D when in fact the only 3D there was in the game was a little sprite zooming in slightly. Sometimes it was just to attract sales but other times it was really to add 3D. Sadly, sometimes the result turned out pretty bad.
As for the circle thing I agree, although we do see it's not the case when stuff changes along your way on the map. It just makes people dizzy or gives them an headache.
Don't wonder why I only paid $3 for the game. :P
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Ok I tried the game on a real SNES and actually it isn't nearly as bad as in Youtube videos and emulators it seems. You tend to be more concentrated on jumping on platforms and shooting enemies that arrive out of nowhere. It just seems the inverted parallax scrolling isn't as annoying on the TV.
The game is very hard, though. O.O Super Turrican is pretty much a joke in terms of difficulty compared to this spinoff.
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Ah, that's good. I guess if you are playing your eyes are more focused on the character than the background.
*Edit* I didn't realize that this was a Turrican spin off.
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Wow yeah it looks like it IS turrican with different graphics and music :o
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Ah, that's good. I guess if you are playing your eyes are more focused on the character than the background.
*Edit* I didn't realize that this was a Turrican spin off.
it isn't officially one, but the gameplay is similar, the music was composed by the same person and the graphical style is very similar as well.
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Is it cheaper than super turican?
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@DJ Ah, ok. :)
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Is it cheaper than super turican?
Super Turrican US: $25
Super Turrican 2 US: $50
Jim Power US: $3
It's pretty unknown and obscure and due to the extreme difficulty, not popular as much. That said Super Turrican and Jim Power music is MUCH better than Super Turrican 2. I didn't check Super Turrican 3 nor the two prequels on the Amiga, tho (Super Turrican is basically the 3rd game and I think all 3 SNES games on the Amiga are actually one, but I could be wrong.)
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I should get an amiga too, but they are still quite expensive. Amiga's are more in demand than c64's!
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Better hardware, and better demos. Amiga are still rocking among many peoples...
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Amiga? Expensive??? But why? I mean I can understand it as far as 1200s are concerned, but 500s going for 50 EUR on the Bay is just insane.
Keoni, if you're ever in Berlin, let me know early in advance, and I may be able to help you (well, assuming that you're going to do some cool stuff with it). Unfortunately I gave away most of my 500s last year, but it'll be ok to ask if I can have one of them back.
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Amigas seem pretty interesting. Never owned one though. Why is 50 EUR bad for that model? Are they really common or something?
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Yes, the 500 is very common. Over a million were sold in Germany alone.
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Ah, ok. Guess there's still a high demand among hobbyist then.
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IIRC, personal computers were not popular in North America back in the '80s, for some reasons, and the video game crash of 1983-84 didn't help either I bet.
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From what I understand Computers were more popular for gaming in Europe in the 80's. In America it was pretty much all about consoles.
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I wanna have an amiga for making music :) I am not sure which one is the best model for that.
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Normally I'd recommend the 1200, because it uses the latest chipset and has a harddrive. But since you are good with soldering, you shouldn't have too much trouble upgrading another model with some sort of IDE interfacing. So get a 500, they're by far the cheapest. Check on German ebay, occasionally you can get one for a budget price.
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From what I've heard, they are pretty good for music creation and art stuff too. :) I hear some people even still use them for that! O.O
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Is it easy to install stuff on Amiga computers nowadays? I mean, if you have no original copy of softwares/games, can you download them directly from the Internet or transfer them through certain means such as USB ports? (although i bet they lack USB ports, since they're so old lol)
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Well, AFAICT the amiga used an IDE-like interface for its hard drives, so it wouldn't be terribly difficult to adapt that to CF cards and use another PC.
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There are USB solutions for Amiga. For later models (1200/2000/4000) they are a viable option. Older models however require some rather tricky hardware modding. So over all, IDE interfacing is the better (and cheaper) alternative on these machines.