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Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« on: October 23, 2011, 12:46:52 am »
In 2006, I organized a Starcraft tournament on Omnimaga, but I lost internet access in Early 2007, preventing us from finishing it. However, noticing more people here got Starcraft 2 lately and knowing some of us still got the original Brood War expansion, I thought it might be fun if we gave this another try.

There would be no specific time at which each game could be played, as long as they are all played within a one month period or before the next balance patch. If Blizzard announces that a PTR test patch is out, then all games must be played within the next week after it's announced, since this basically means a new patch is imminent. Bug fix or minor balance patches (such as hatchery costing 299 minerals instead of 300) won't count.

Basically the format would be one of the following (or we could attempt all 3). Let's say, for example, that the tournament has 4 participants

Version 1: Each player play at least one of each participant
1 vs 2
1 vs 3
1 vs 4
2 vs 3
2 vs 4
3 vs 4

If there's a tie for all 3, repeat this process again. If another tie happens, then a FFA game is made between all players, where the winner takes it all. If the first two spots are tied, then a tiebreaker game has to be played between them.

Version 2: Each player play each race against each participant, which means each people plays against each others 3 times. However, he decides which race he choose per game, as long as he plays all 3 of them, so it's possible that with certain people, some race matchups may not happen.
1 vs 2 x3
1 vs 3 x3
1 vs 4 x3
2 vs 3 x3
2 vs 4 x3
3 vs 4 x3
As you can see, if there are 4 participants, this would mean 9 games per player, for a total of 18 matchups. If two people can manage two games in a week, this could possibly be feasible. However, it would be unfair for the people that are only good at once race, if someone is good at all 3 races, but otherwise might balance out the scores more and increase the fun factor for everyone.

Version 3: Each player play every possible race matchup against each participant, which means each people play against each others 9 times. I do not like this version much, because then we would have to disregard balance patches, as this would mean 27 games per people, for a total of 54.

Version 4: Same as version 1, but each player plays twice against each others, using a different race in the 2nd game. This would mean 6 games per person, for a total of 12 matchups. This might be better IMHO, while still making everyone play two different races.

Version 5: Same as version 4, but the race choice must be set to "Random". This might be a bit unfair if someone ends up with his worst race every few game, though.

-All games have to be played at fastest speed
-Every game has to be played on the exact same map (most likely a standard 4-base map. Not Steppes of War, lol, as everyone will 6 pool)
-To count, each game played would require the replay to be saved and uploaded on the forums. If the replay is forgotten, then the game has to be replayed again.
-All players for this tournament would have to live in North America, because the game is region-locked, although if there would be enough demand, maybe an european Omni tournament could be made later.
-If a player disconnects during the game, his opponent wins automatically, unless the disconnect happened within the first 3 minutes (in that case the replay is required)

I thought it could be doable because even if some people are busy, I am sure it is possible to take 50 minutes to an hour of your time one evening every 2-3 day to play at least one or two matches, not to mention a lot of games won't even last this long, so in some cases somebody might be able to play all his games in one day.

Would anyone be interested? Note that this would be made for fun. Of course if people prefers a Starcraft Brood War tournament, then it could be made too, but all games would need to be played on iCCup. Also maybe we could do multiple tournaments or simply do 3 games per people rounds or something, so we can play multiple maps, even a money map, for laugh.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 12:48:52 am by DJ_O »


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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 01:07:40 am »
Is this for starcraft II?

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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 01:16:27 am »
What about a tournament ladder?  That might work well for large numbers of people.  And I for one am definitely going to participate with this :D

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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 01:46:02 am »
Is this for starcraft II?
It depends. If people in general prefers brood war, then we'll do bw instead. I personally would prefer SC2 though.

As for tournament ladder, what do you mean Builder?


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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2011, 01:47:22 am »
Something like this:

Where we have groups of people who face off to move into the next round, and then they fight off to move to the next round ect until we get to the finals where there are 2 people left.

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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2011, 01:49:27 am »
Oh ok, but that could be pretty long if many games have to be played before for qualification. If each people just play one game vs one random person, it will be kinda unfair if a bronze player gets matched up vs diamond and is kicked out of the ladder in one single game  that is a cannon rush
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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 01:50:54 am »
true I suppose, I guess the tournament style is more for finding the 'best' player out of all instead of ranking them in order properly.

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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 01:52:14 am »
So DJ's idea is roundrobin(?) way, where everyone faces. In builderboy's, it's bracket style.

If there are less than 6 people, DJ's idea is better, while if there are more than 6 ppl, Builderboy's method is better because of sheer amount players would have to play against everyone.

And I would join! I'm on sc2 almost everyday haha


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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2011, 01:52:50 am »
Yeah this is why I thought it would be best at first that each people matches up each player at least once. There would be a standing, then if there are like 6 people participating, then there could be some sort of playoffs. But yeah in bracket style the issue is if someone gets matched up randomly vs diamond and he's bronze, while another bronze player wins vs silver, it will look unfair in the end I think, although I guess the same could be told if the bronze wins over diamond due to a scv rush and a bronze player loses to bronze after a long game
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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2011, 01:54:20 am »
sounds like a plan ^^ I think option 1 would be the best.  Even the best starcraft players only play as their preferred race, so I don't think there is much to be gained by forcing everybody to play games as all races.  And you should make a poll so we can vote :D And then once we're decided, we can have signups ^^

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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2011, 02:01:27 am »
Well thors are OP so just choose terran and tech straight to thor and you win. J/k


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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2011, 02:02:21 am »
Lol if you are going against someone who doesn't scout nor attack, it would probably work great :P

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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2011, 02:03:15 am »
it's really annoying to go against terran who gets mass hellions and harass while tanking up in their base and getting thors out :(


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2011, 02:04:28 am »
Yeah that can be annoying, if you can manage to get some air units quickly tho you are golden :)

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Re: Omnimaga Starcraft tournament
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2011, 02:11:04 am »
I guess ill sit out, i only got SC1