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If I want to complete both of these games 100%, (all rings, all items, all heart containers, etc.) just how many times do I need to replay them? From what I understand, I have to do this:

 - Clear both games, and then replay both of them using the Hero's Secret / get Triforce icon on each file screen, and have the Victory Ring
 - Replay both again after clearing the Hero's Secret; start two linked games / transfer items from either game using secrets

So, that's a total of four playthroughs. ;_;

Am I mistaken? I'm not sure I fully understand the secret system. If I start a linked game, what is the purpose of doing so? Can I transfer items from one game to the other? What does the Hero's Secret really do to a game, besides giving you a Triforce icon on your file?
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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 03:34:24 pm »
I've only ever played them separately... (emulated :D )

I believe the secret system allows, among other things, access to the master sword. There exist secrets for getting all rings etc. ( != cheatcodes) But I don't have the details you asked for, sorry :s

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 10:51:27 pm »
I never played those back then, because I did not appreciate the new Nintendo money-harvesting strategy of requiring people to spend additional money on another game to 100% the other (which is partly why I never got into Pokémon either). Eventually they became cheaper and available on emulators but I didn't try them yet.

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 09:40:30 am »
I've cleared Seasons, and unlocked everything you could in a non-linked game. I guess that counts for something. I can vouch that Seasons is a good game, at the least. I haven't tried the whole password system.

On a similar note, I'm trying to find another Zelda game to play. I just finished Minish Cap 100%:



If anyone else emulates Minish Cap, steer clear of the European version. It has a bug that can permanently prevent a kinstone fusion, causing you to mess up the entire quest and miss out on the Mirror Shield upgrade. It also lacks a bomb bag upgrade that appears in the U.S. and Japanese versions. Go with the U.S. version, since it fixes these issues.

My other options at the moment are:

Link to the Past w/ Four Swords - I already completed this game 100%, but that was a long time ago. I don't have that file anymore. I'm not sure if I have any way to play Four Swords again, as I don't know if I can link two emulators on my computer. You have to clear Four Swords so many times in order to unlock a few things in Link to the Past.

Link's Awakening DX - already completed the non-DX version 100%, but I want to complete this one, as well.

Oracle of... series - only completed Seasons as much as I could without linking. If I play either of these, I will have to complete both of them 100%. I'm too anal to put a game down before I've fully completed it. :P

I could also play Link to the Past on SNES, but it seems pointless since I have the GBA port. (which does have more features)

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 11:33:55 am »
Nice, but did you 100% Minish Cap like from the start to the end ONLY in one day/night? O.o It would be rather impressive if you did. Or do you mean you started long before you started this topic?

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 12:31:28 pm »
I meant I started before this topic. It would probably be possible to run the game 100% in a single day, assuming that's pretty much all you did all day. I can't say I have that much of an attention-span when it comes to gaming. :P

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 01:40:03 pm »
Oh ok. I was starting to think: Is Zera our resident godlike gamer? ;D

But yeah I am sure some games like this can be 100% in one day once you beaten it once or twice.

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2010, 03:19:43 pm »
I recently played through the Minish cap, but it definitely wasn't a 100% run.

I'd recommend the Link's Awakening DX. It rulez, even if you have already played it before.

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2010, 03:25:32 pm »
What does the DX version has more than the original LA, btw? I never played it. Is it just a color revamp with different title screen?

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2010, 03:27:10 pm »
Urrrhm... Yes :) But also, I think it has some additional features (I don't remember where I read that). Still, it IS fun.

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2010, 04:38:26 pm »
If I remember correctly, these are all the DX changes:

 - Some minor text changes, for better translation accuracy.

 - The photographer / photo album. Periodically, he'll take photos of you on your adventure and store them in a personal album you can view at any time.

 - The Color Dungeon. Completing the dungeon allows you to choose a new tunic: Red or Blue. They raise attack or defense, respectively.

I'm playing on the game now. Already past the third dungeon. It's pretty fun, and in color. :P
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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2010, 04:45:16 pm »
Aaah nice. I should play it at one point. However, I gave up last time because I always get stuck in the forest at the beginning and never could figure out

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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2010, 02:08:46 pm »
Some character gives you a hint about how to escape the forest loop. I think you buy or find a mushroom and it gets rid of the animal in your way.

I finally decided to try to Color Dungeon. I didn't realize you could do it at any point in the game. At the end of the dungeon, you get to choose between either a red or blue tunic. The red one gives Link the same abilities he would get from finding a Piece of Power. (the little Triforce dropped by enemies from time to time) This seems to double his sword damage, increases his speed and has an effect that sends enemies flying across the screen. Since the red tunic makes these effects permanent, it's really nice. The blue tunic just increases your defense, like a Guardian Acorn would. At any time, you can freely return to the dungeon and swap the tunics out.

It's a pretty short game, really. I wouldn't even say it's as long as Zelda 1. Dungeons and dungeon rooms are much smaller, of course, because of the limited GB/C screen resolution.
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Re: Oracle of Ages / Seasons confusion + what else should I play?
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2010, 06:45:36 pm »
aaah ok, thanks for the tip.and yeah I heard it was rather short.