Omnimaga
General Discussion => Technology and Development => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on February 04, 2010, 05:34:15 pm
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Ok, many people who plays SC do not own a legit copy of it, but may still want to play online with people on the forums. Here's a solution: iCCup. iCCup is a third party online SC server. To be able to get on it, you must Google iCCup, go on their website (we do not provide direct link as it seemed to provide warez and linking to it is not allowed by my webhost), go to the Starcraft tab and check the instructions. Follow them and install the needed patch(es). Then you should have an additional server listed above the 4 battle net servers. iCCup requires Starcraft Broodwar Expansion Set. This should let you play SC online even if you have a pirated copy of SC Brood War.
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I don't have time to keep looking for who here may be online, so it would be sweet if we had some arranged matches
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Yeah that's why I started this subforum, also started because there seems to be a bunch of Starcraft players here now. On IRC it can be hard because even if you get highlighted you might miss my message if you leave and it can be hard to notice through logs.
Now about iCCup, one thing I need to figure out is how to fix the latency problem (causing me to not be able to join some people games). I got told to use Chaos Launcher, but it didn't fix my problem. I thought I may have setup something wrong but I asked someone (who happens to be Geekboy1011 friend) in the iCCup channel we were in and he started messing with me by refusing to awnser.
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I've never played starcraft, but alot of people here seem to play. Maybe I'll give it a try someday. =D
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A lot of younger people don't know what is SC these days, because it's 12 years old and it's not findable in every store. Only some stores still carry some copies and it's not sold in all countries anymore. However, when younger people discovers it, they start liking it too unless they only play games for graphics
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It still remains really popular too. I can't believe how many people still play it! O_o I guess it's developers did something right! ;D
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I can play in iCCup. I will google and install. ;)
Maybe I can bring some friends too.
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It still remains really popular too. I can't believe how many people still play it! O_o I guess it's developers did something right!
Well, Blizzard definitely deserves the credit. They could have stuck with "Warcraft in Space", (for those of you who don't know, this is a reference to Starcraft originally built on the Warcraft II engine, to many negative reviews) but instead decided to build a reputation for quality games rather than making games simply to make a buck
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The original two WC engines weren't too great. If anyone tried Warcraft II they probably noticed how sucky was the AI on complex maps. Still a good game but SC engine is a major improvement over it.
Now let's hope Starcraft 3 (or even 2?) won't be turned into a MMORPG <.<
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Yeah, I think they are keeping starcraft away from heroes and stuff, since warcraft already has that.
I would rather not have any kind of heroes (except may be in single player campaign) that you can level up and stuff.
It's still widely played in Korea, and it almost became Korean national sport ^^
And, I will play, except that I'm finding myself without time more and more :(
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I hope you don't lose all your free time x.x
It would be cool to do some sort of big game at one point, altough getting everyone online all at once may be hard.
In Quebec SC is still quite popular too. In fact, the two Quebecers that were active coding in the TI community in ASM were working on their respective Starcraft clones
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Were... I wish it was Is.
Haha, I was thinking of making SC with xLib, and had most of the ideas figured out, except AI and the map and their storage... I sometimes really wish there really was SC clone. Well, that's why I'm looking forward to S.A.D., which is closest RTS game in calc in development right now :)
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hmm when i finnaly get starcraft installed is any one willing to help teach me how to play X.x(i kinda hate tutorials for gams there so redundent X.x)
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I would like to do so. Basically I could setup a game in melee mode, where we would play each others but we would have the same race and first I would teach you how to build stuff and the like
First i would have to get the latency issue fixed, though... I guess I can always host, though...
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Wow, this is awesome! STARCRAFT FTW! So scheduled games possibly then? Geekboy, I can also teach a bit you if you want, though i'm not near as good as DJ.
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Just out of mere curosity, DJ, what race would you hope to start geekboy on? All races are good, but I've never heard of a beginner starting as Zerg before, it's always been either Terran or Protoss...
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Btw, warning: since we'll be playing on iCCup unless just people who can play on Bnet are on, remember that iCCup only allows official maps and iCCup tournament maps. This means Fastest Money Map, Zero Clutter, Micro Jail Fastest and the like are not allowed. We'll have to do with regular maps, altough it's the real Starcraft after all. I'm not as great on non UMS/money maps but I should be able to challenge people anyway I guess :P
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Really? Because I just played an ultimate minigame party with somebody...
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really? Mhmm strange. I was certain only their maps were allowed? Or maybe it's just for ladder games. Idk. I guess we just need to try choosing a map we want and if it doesn't work then oh well.
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I can use any of the 3 races. But the Zerg is the race I don't know well the technology tree.
I have few experience in playing SC but I try to play fast.
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awsome thats great to here dj and every one ty i might be able to play yonight depends on how long we stay at our friends house XD
and yeah what race is good for begginers X.x i have no clue X.x
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and yeah what race is good for begginers X.x i have no clue X.x
I hope DJ doesn't mind me throwing in my two cent's worth, even though he's the one who should be answering this question...
Most of the time, Terran is the best starting race. Terrans are the most versatile and have an average cost. Most of their units have a ranged attack and can be used for more than one purpose, meaning if you have to change strategies instantly, it's easier to do so than with the other races. It's important to note that Terran is the only race that can build anywhere...also important to note is the Terran Battlecruiser is the most powerful unit in the game if you use it correctly. (For those of you who want to argue about the Protoss carrier, this has been proven)
However, if--if--you're finding you have tons of money to spend when you're playing because you forget to spend it, you might want to play as Protoss. They cost a lot of money to build, but that's because their units are very beefed up. They also play somewhat similar to Terran, with a few differences, but if you can play Terran, you can play Protoss without too much trouble. I play as Protoss because as a noob, I always have all this money left to spend.
I personally don't recommend Zerg for beginners, because they are in no way similar to the other two races. I'll let someone else give the details
I would like to do so. Basically I could setup a game in melee mode, where we would play each others but we would have the same race and first I would teach you how to build stuff and the like
Can I join if I promise to be nice? :)
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Altough I personally found it easier to go with Protoss for a while at first, I think that Terran is a pretty good race to start with because it acts as a bridge between all other RTSes. Notice how many of its buildings and units have the same names as in other RTSes like Command And Conquer for example. PLus since they're human-based, It's easier to get used to. Now the only problem that comes is that there are so many level upgrades to do and when you have lots of SCVs building stuff at once, you can no longer keep up with all of the ones that finishes, especially when building a lot of supply depots. This causes many SCVs to end up idle because you forgot them. The defense is also poor at the beginning. TO make bunkers functional you have to train marines and the like, which takes a lot of units. For long range defense, you have to use siege tanks, which also takes units, so if you have a lot of ground defense, you waste a lot of unit slots out of your max of 200. That said, marines are pretty good at defending against early Zergling rushes, providing you have enough of them, plus you can lift your buildings to keep them out of reach of early Protoss and Zerg attacks.
With protoss, you got fewer defense/attack upgrades to do than Terran, making it easier to plan ground-only strategies, but units takes more ressources and air units have a lot more abilities to learn than Terran. Also Protoss has the best defense (Photon Cannons can defend against both ground and air attacks), plus when you build, you only need one single worker as he doesn't need to stay next to the building under construction.
With Zerg, this is a totally different concept. It can take a while to get used to it but once you do (if you do) I find them pretty easy to use, because the tech tree is easier to remember and climb. What I like with them is that all units are built from one single place and drones can send minerals and gas to any hatchery. So if your main hatchery is destroyed, the drones will just go to the next one (if you have one right next). Zerg defense isn't too great against ground units, though, altough unlike Terran, it doesn't waste any unit slot. Also with Zerg when you do a building the drone morphs into it, meaning you lose your drone.
But yeah, I think Terran might be a good race to start with, especially if you're used to other RTSes involving modern or futuristic wars
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I might have to borrow my friends copy and get him to teach me the basics. =D
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well i got it set up finnaly and were gonna be playing soon ish i think so he can start to teach me to play XD and i personnaly see no reason y you all cant join so lets go :)
@art im not useing a legal key and it works fine it be nice to have you join XD
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Awesome that everybody's going to playing now. :D Everyone wanna tell us the name they're going to use for battle net though? (In case its different)
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right im geekboy and its the same by the looks of it were just on iccup's server thats teh only change
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well there's another step to do before playing, though.
First, it's not guaranteed we'll be able to play all together. We might have to do some separate matches. Latency errors might be an issue still.
What we need to do is try to join each others games and see who would be the best host. I know on Battlenet I can't join Cooliojazz but he can joins me fine. I don't know for iCCup
EDIT: when you get on the server and logged in/registered, type /join omnimaga
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ok i vote we try then XD
so im waitng and definetily cant host a 11megabit personcond connection isnt enoght to host with so yeah
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http://ourl.ca/4082
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when i'm downloading the anti-hack launcher do i click primary server or mirror server?
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try the primary one first. It shouldn't make a difference. The mirror one is just in case the main server is down or overloaded.
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So anyone want to set up a game this weekend? I think it would be cool to play other omnimaga members.
By the way: I suck beyond belief but i want to play anyways :P
Edit: also talking about Starcraft 1 (I can't get Starcraft 2)
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Are you gonna be on during evening? I got my work schedules for 3 weeks in advance last week and I think Saturday and Sunday, I only work from 7:45 AM to 4:45 PM, meaning I should be free most of the evening. I could be wrong about Sunday, though. Otherwise there's always Friday, I guess, if nothing wrong comes up.
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On weekends I'm usually on or most of the day, even though my parents say "only 3 hours" they normally don't even care, but if we schedule a game I'll save my time for then to try to avoid any issues.
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Aaah ok, I guess Saturday evening past Dinner time could do.
Btw I'm not that great at SC1 regular maps either. Plus, I am so used to SC2 shortcuts now that I will most likely always press the wrong key to spawn overlords or forget to send my drones to mineral patches (which can be done automatically in SC2) ;D
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Btw I'm not that great at SC1 regular maps either. Plus, I am so used to SC2 shortcuts now that I will most likely always press the wrong key to spawn overlords or forget to send my drones to mineral patches (which can be done automatically in SC2) ;D
lol :D
Aaah ok, I guess Saturday evening past Dinner time could do.
Cool, by the way would it be okay if i invited some of my friends from school? They just started playing so i think it would be a good learning experience.
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Just as long as they aren't trolls/bullies I am fine. :P (otherwise if they are and they end up playing in my team I'll BS (http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Backstab) them anyway)
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Just as long as they aren't trolls/bullies I am fine. :P (otherwise if they are and they end up playing in my team I'll BS (http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Backstab) them anyway)
They aren't normally, but they might joke and kid around in a way that may seem so, but i doubt it.
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Aah ok. My problem is generally if people starts calling me names due to my playing skills or take the game way too seriously (such as accusing people of hacking because they are losing)
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Aah ok. My problem is generally if people starts calling me names due to my playing skills or take the game way too seriously (such as accusing people of hacking because they are losing)
Ah ok i don't think that will happen, but one of them says i hack calc games because i always beat him in tetris and bomberkids
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Aaah ok. I guess it's not too bad then :P
I hope we can play then :)
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/me wonders if Guy6020666 is still planning to play this evening
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/me wonders if Guy6020666 is still planning to play this evening
Sorry my parents went out, so i didn't have access to the computer. :( otherwise i would have been on. Sorry.
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/me hopes we can play again another time D:
No problem, though
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/me omnoms Guy602665
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By the way i may be able to play tommorrow
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Are you able to play tonight? ;D
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Nah the comp needs to be off soon, tommorow at maybe 8-9 ish maybe?
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Aw ok :(
Nah tomorrow I can't since I work from 3 PM to 10:30 PM GMT-5 :(
Sunday, for odd reasons, I do not have work, though.
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Aw ok :(
Nah tomorrow I can't since I work from 3 PM to 10:30 PM GMT-5 :(
Sunday, for odd reasons, I do not have work, though.
Ok ill try tommorrow
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euhmm isn't buying the game way easier? we got leages xD
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It is not available for sale everywhere anymore and not everyone can buy stuff online due to parents, not to mention some people got no money and cannot get a job yet. Also leagues have been removed from SC for ages if I remember, unless they're still available on european server? iCCup got leagues too.
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This is very good work. I need this. I'll put it on sometime soon. Maybe around 3ish Eastern time
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Cool, I hope it works for you. I usually play on iCCup nowadays but sometimes on Battle.net too when there aren't enough people on iCCup. The problem with Battle.Net now, especially since Starcraft II came out, is that there are more and more hackers since no more patches are being released (the typical hack being used is the one that causes winners to disconnect right before game ends to get a free win) and for those who only play melee/tvb/ffa regular games, not UMS games (like Tower Defense), barely have anymore map choice, because everyone play on Fastest Money Map Ever, Zero Clutter, Micro Fastest and Big Game Hunters. Those are cool sometimes but it sucks that nobody play Lost Temple and such map anymore. :/
Btw I mostly play Zerg but on non-money maps I also play Protoss from time to time. On SC2 I only play Zerg for now.
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I have try iCcup and it turns good for me in updating my StarCraft. Wow., amazing.
Its really fantastico! Thanks man.
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Glad to hear! Also welcome to the forums. Do you play Starcraft often? Also do you happen to do the Texas Instruments TI-83+/TI-Nspire or even Casio calculator programming/gaming thing? :)
By the way, although nowadays I mostly play Starcraft II, I still load the good ol' Starcraft Brood War from time to time to play some games on US East or iCCup.
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I also play a little bit, usually on op teamliquid. although I also want to finish starcraft 2 campaign...
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Yeah I haven't finished the campaing yet. I tend to prefer standard multiplayer games than missions, although I would still like to finish the campaing, even if on medium.
That reminds me, I wonder if Heart of the Swarm will end region locks for custom games? I heard it might. I also heard about clan support, which might be cool for creating an Omni group. But I'm particularly interested in the region lock removal if that happens, since I would finally be able to play with more people here on the forums.
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Yeah I haven't finished the campaing yet. I tend to prefer standard multiplayer games than missions, although I would still like to finish the campaing, even if on medium.
That reminds me, I wonder if Heart of the Swarm will end region locks for custom games? I heard it might. I also heard about clan support, which might be cool for creating an Omni group. But I'm particularly interested in the region lock removal if that happens, since I would finally be able to play with more people here on the forums.
yes there will be region lock removal. It'll be like sc1 or diablo 2, where you choose which server to log in at the log in screen.
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That's cool, although I wonder when that will happen. They said it would not be immediately after the expansion release.
That makes me wonder: Was the original SC region-locked early on or was it just one single server?
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That's cool, although I wonder when that will happen. They said it would not be immediately after the expansion release.
That makes me wonder: Was the original SC region-locked early on or was it just one single server?
hmmm, i'm inclined to say it was region-locked, mostly because they already had experience with battle.net system in diablo 1, but I'm not 100% sure.