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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2013, 04:16:19 pm »
The newest version of usb8x is 0.13, and the highest version of msd8x is 0.97. The release was very quiet, and only the sources were released. if you want the binaries, you will have to compile them from source (or I might as well, they are right in front of me). The source is on the usb8x SVN repository and can be compiled with Zilog Developer Studio 3.68.
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2013, 05:18:17 pm »
I meant 0.97 of msd8x.
Is there a link?
Better yet, please compile, because I know nothing about compiling. I've tried with ZDS. I spent hours before rewriting MSD8x to be named MSD8y so I could have two different versions (which isn't easy for a newb to z80. Took a while to find it.) and then trying to compile, before I gave up and modified the hex of the signed app and sent it unsigned.

I can't even find the source of 0.97, but I found CalcsysX! EDIT: Which of course isn't a binary. So, I can't get it without compiling, which of course wouldn't be the easiest thing for me to do as I don't know how. Ugh.
Is there something about different boot codes that make OSs different?
« Last Edit: March 31, 2013, 05:37:03 pm by Dapianokid »
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2013, 06:27:11 pm »
http://usb8x.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/usb8x/
The bootcode does not matter, except that bootcode 1.03 has an extra protection that makes only os 2.55 transferable to the calc, but that can be patched.
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2013, 07:12:00 pm »
Well I'm having trouble with Ti Connect at all, and TiLP. neither will work. My calc just crashes (Its in "recovery mode") and my computer says it isn't there
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2013, 07:49:02 pm »
I have had this problem before, I think, with os 0.56. I think I solved it by using a silverlink, but something may have been malfunctioning too.
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2013, 04:15:08 pm »
I uninstalled all USB drivers that had to do with TI, uninstalled TI connect, unplugged my calculators, and reinstalled everything without them plugged in. It worked after that! Then I sent my OS.
MSD8x 0.97 is glitchier than 0.96
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2013, 09:20:46 pm »
USB8X is due for a rewrite. It might be something I help BrandonW with over the summer.
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2013, 09:25:58 pm »
DrDnar, I'd REALLY love that.
I'm still learning ASM, and I don't know anything about USB... So I can't honestly help with that. However, I would appreciate much nicer text file reading on calculator via USB and full app transfer :D
TIOS 2.55 BASIC programs that use the vertical text trick don't work right?
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2013, 10:35:45 pm »
Mostly that zStart does not seem to work very well in 2.55 and it works in 2.53, I figure that 2.55 has some hidden bug that is destroying my calc.
Is doors CS installed btw? Zstart messes up when DCS is installed.

Also aren't Msd8x/Usb8x glitches mostly caused by requiring 128 KB of extra RAM, which newer 84+ models lack?

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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2013, 02:11:57 am »
MSD8X requires the extra RAM pages, yes. However, USB8X itself doesn't. MSD8X uses them for buffering data.
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2013, 07:39:36 am »
Zstart messes up when DCS is installed.
It doesn't. I have both running just fine, just disable the hooks in Doors and you're good to go.
BTW, 2.43 is compatible wtih most stuff and most of 2.5x features can be added with apps (with the exception of MP of course).
« Last Edit: April 03, 2013, 07:46:54 am by Streetwalker »

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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2013, 07:53:07 am »
I keep thinking I should update from 2.30, but I never see any good reasons to, aside from a few zstart/omnicalc features dying. (Like zStart's MAIN feature :P)

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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2013, 12:53:23 pm »
willrandship, for every OS you get, save it on the computer, as there aren't many obscure/short lived OS's online. :) I suggest 2.55 or 2.43. I'm using 2.55 now.

Msd8x works fine on newer 84+SE? Or maybe just the 84+?

Doors and Zstart don't mix? THAT is why my calculator screws up!
Altho the random Defrag glitch seems to be a permanent problem now! OHNOEZ
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2013, 01:05:00 pm »
Maybe Flashy would work. I have a feeling that if it persists after OS upgrades, it is a permanent problem with the bootcode. But someone like DrDnar or thepenguin77 should confirm this, I am not an authority.

Msd8x works fine for me on my newer 84 without the extra RAM, at least 0.95 did.
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Re: Dapianokid's TIOS discussion
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2013, 08:13:53 am »
The newest version of usb8x is 0.13, and the highest version of msd8x is 0.97. The release was very quiet, and only the sources were released. if you want the binaries, you will have to compile them from source (or I might as well, they are right in front of me). The source is on the usb8x SVN repository and can be compiled with Zilog Developer Studio 3.68.
Where can I find usb8x 0.13 ?

Doors and Zstart don't mix? THAT is why my calculator screws up!
They won't mess ANYTHING up if you disable ON hooks, homerun hooks and Launch DCS at startup in Doors. Then in zStart go to program setting, shell and choose DoorsCS7. ;) This way, zStart will expose Doors features to programs.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2013, 08:20:53 am by Streetwalker »