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Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« on: October 28, 2012, 11:44:31 am »
So I can't use brandonW's fake ram reset program because it resets ram as well.  This means I will lose TI boy saved data.  Are there any other fake ram reset programs or programs that will hide my apps?
ti 84+ OS 2.55 MP.  I will not degrade, epic fail does have a chance of breaking my calc
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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 01:16:29 pm »
I will not degrade, epic fail does have a chance of breaking my calc
Why don't you use Make103 then ? It will make any OS compatible with the boot code 1.03 so you can get the OS 2.43 without any problems.

I don't know any program/app that does the same thing as BrandonW's Fake, but I think that even if there was another, it would have the same incompatibilities with the OS 2.55. This OS has more drawbacks than advantages (it can reverse your screen without you launching any program, just by calculing 8/5) so coders usually don't bother rewriting their apps for this OS.
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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2012, 01:19:14 pm »
I will not degrade, epic fail does have a chance of breaking my calc

*cough*

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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2012, 02:44:15 pm »
Can unsigned break my calc?

I don't like make 103, I don't speak french.

Acutally, never mind.  I have renamed my ti boy apps to things like StudyCrd (the real app has been deleted) so teachers will have no idea what I am doing.  They don't mem reset I don't think.  Also, last time I tried downgrading os, my calculator almost broke, not gonna try that again.
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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2012, 02:49:40 pm »
I don't like make 103, I don't speak french.
Are you kidding ? Make103 is all in English ???
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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2012, 03:23:56 pm »
So I found a program: it's on cemetech, its called fake v 1.0.  It works only with doors, and it is very good.  So whenever I am done with ti boy I will put the calc in fake mode.  In fake mode, you can't do anything besides reset the ram, lol, my teacher will be pissed if she tries searching my calculator and the apps or program button doesn't work.

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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2012, 03:49:53 pm »
Fake Version 1.0 can't turn off without exiting the prog...

Are there any workarounds for the error that BrandownW's program clears RAM, TI boy stores saves in ram.

Also, is there any chance unsigned will break my calc?
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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2012, 03:58:58 pm »
I will not degrade, epic fail does have a chance of breaking my calc
Have there been reports of that yet? Just tried it yesterday and it worked great :)




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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2012, 05:00:15 pm »
I will not degrade, epic fail does have a chance of breaking my calc
Have there been reports of that yet? Just tried it yesterday and it worked great :)

I'm going to assume brandon did all of his usual redundancies on this one (like MD5 hashing the boot code to make sure it's the right one) so the way I look at it is this:

During the operation of epic fail, there is a chance that it could brick your calculator. The key word here is chance. Normally, it is impossible to brick your calculator, but when running epic fail, the window is open.

How likely is it? To brick your calculator, a crash would have to occur that overwrites the boot code in a way that makes it crash. A good thing to compare this to is accidental OS modification, how often does this happen? I don't know any good numbers on this, but I'd chance a guess at 1 time per year for us calculator programmers. Assuming we do on average 20 different calculator activities per day (every day) that puts an OS modification event at 1 in 7,300 calculator activities. How likely is a modification to cause a crash? I'm pretty good at asm, so I'll say 1 in 4. This means there's a 1 in 29,200 chance that a calculator activity is going to cause your OS to crash.

The OS is comprised of 22 pages (23 if we include the boot code). So now that we can figure the boot code into the equation, there is a 1 in 23 chance that this fatal error will happen in the boot code for 1 in 671,600. But hold your horses, only about 1/4 of the boot code actually gets run (in a bricking situation), throwing away all decimals, this puts you at about a 1 in 2,000,000 chance of bricking your calculator.


The key here is like I said earlier, normally, you can't brick your calculator, but when you run this, there's a 1 in 2,000,000 chance that you will, and brandon doesn't want to get sued.
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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2012, 08:35:14 pm »
SO I patched with unsigned, awesome program.  Now I need a program that can archive all my programs (a program, not an app), this is a workaround for Brandonw's program with his fake reset prog.  Does anyone know of such a program?

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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2012, 10:08:46 pm »
SO I patched with unsigned, awesome program.  Now I need a program that can archive all my programs (a program, not an app), this is a workaround for Brandonw's program with his fake reset prog.  Does anyone know of such a program?

zStart does it (my signature). Press ON + VARS at the homescreen and it will archive all of your programs.
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Re: Fake ram restting programs, app hiding programs?
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2012, 12:34:05 am »
guys, blatant discussions about cheating aren't allowed, remember? =/
topic locked.

and robberguy, if you bring this up again elsewhere it will result in a temporary ban; if you're going to try cheating on something, at least go figure out how to do so on your own.
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