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Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on August 30, 2007, 02:34:00 pm

After a year, finally got my calc. Ok, so I have a couple questions. To get started coding on it, what should I get/read, and what are some games/programs etc that I should get, and what are some sites that archive TI 84 programs? (i have ti 84 SE

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Xphoenix on August 30, 2007, 04:32:00 pm

Wow. Ok. First off:

1. Biggest ti-calculator archive on the net: http://www.ticalc.org, it's got over 100000 files I believe.

2. More specifically, http://www.ticalc.org/pub/83plus/.

3. You'll want to start coding using TI-BASIC. The online TI-84+ manual will give you some info, though the one you got with your 84+SE also gives you some sample programs. I liked http://odin.prohosting.com/mjs2k/tutorials/index.htm#83b tutorial for some reason while I was learning BASIC, but there are hundreds out there. And of course, there's the http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/, and all of the members would kill me if I didn't mention that.

4. (You should have installed all those drivers + TI-Connect + all that other stuff you need to connect your calc to your computer by now.)

5. My games:
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/148/14876.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/348/34879.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/212/21274.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/400/40091.html
I've got this issue with finding Super Mario v2.0, but I recommend it if you can find it.

Also, to run these, you'll need a shell. (You only need one.) Shells:
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/325/32507.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/398/39812.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/139/13949.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/400/40005.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/130/13058.html

Now, for BASIC:
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/360/36075.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/377/37729.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/396/39695.html

Tons of other games and programs, just look and search for what you want. :)

To run two of those BASIC games, you need to install

6. Post your questions.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on August 30, 2007, 05:16:00 pm

Ok wow, thanks! Ok a few questions... How Can I make "pics" or whatever to save? I want one as my startup screen (I got a program for it) Also, when I add a game to my calc, sometimes it goes into archive. How can I unarchive this? Also, can some TI-83 games not be opened? Thanks in advanvce,

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 30, 2007, 05:19:00 pm

Took one year to get your calc? O_O

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on August 30, 2007, 05:21:00 pm

I was going to get it for school but then they changed their minds and didnt need one.

Now I am in algebra one...

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: lordofthegeeks on August 30, 2007, 10:40:00 pm

Lucky I'm now foing into advanced mathmatics
j/k I LOVE math
Now I am off to work

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Delnar_Ersike on August 31, 2007, 04:02:00 am

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QUOTE (PoisonedV @ 30 Aug, 2007, 21:16)

To answer your question: all you need to do is go into the draw menu, press the right arrow key twice (or the left once) and you'll see the Pic menu. Here you can use StorePic # to store what is currently on the graphscreen into Pic# and RecallPic # to recall it (# stands for the picture number that can be from 0 to 9).

Also, there are a couple more games that are pretty sweet, especially since you have an 84+SE and don't really need to worry about space (1.5 MB of archive space).
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/347/34799.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/247/24743.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/355/35586.html
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/168/16876.html

And more that I forgot about or do not have time because I need to go to school pretty soon (like 1 minute)...

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on August 31, 2007, 05:29:00 am

Mario 2.0 was never release but a beta tester leaked a almost finished copy online hence it is hard to find though I belive Calcgames.org has it. But that is why there are some glitches in v2.0. It was never finished because the programer got mad at the comunity for leaking his project.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Xphoenix on August 31, 2007, 07:04:00 am

QuoteBegin-PoisonedV+30 Aug, 2007, 23:16-->

QUOTE (PoisonedV @ 30 Aug, 2007, 23:16)

Also, when I add a game to my calc, sometimes it goes into archive. How can I unarchive this? Also, can some TI-83 games not be opened? Thanks in advanvce,

1. You (Un)Archive stuff by pressing [2ND] +

to open the MEM menu, [2] to open Mem Mgmt/Del..., and then [7] to see a list of your programs. If there is a star next to it, it means to program is archived. Press [ENTER] to (Un)Archive it. However, you only need to unarchive BASIC games to run them. Assembly games can stay archived, and still run (from a shell).

2. Well, if you mean the regular TI-83 (not TI-83+), I don't really know. BASIC programs for the regular 83 (from here on known as "83") have the file extension .83p, as opposed to the 84+ extension of .8xp. If you take the source code, however, and copy it into a .8xp, then it will work. (I do not know if you can actually send a .83p to your 84+, never tried it). I don't exactly know about assembly.
Concerning the 83+, all of the 83+ programs will run on the 84+.

@Storm: Oh, heh, didn't know that, but I do have a copy of it on my computer. Doesn't seem to be a beta to me :)

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on August 31, 2007, 09:18:00 am

Thanks for the help, one more question... Is it possible to put programs that go onto my RAM into my ROM space? Desolate went into my RAM automaticly but I can't open it cause I don't have enough RAM left to unarchive it

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2007, 09:20:00 am

all asm games that run in mirage can be left archived. In desolate you need to unarchive DESDATA to play though, and FInal Fantasy save file must be in ram to be able to save

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Xphoenix on August 31, 2007, 10:05:00 am

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QUOTE (PoisonedV @ 31 Aug, 2007, 15:18)

Read #1 again, I sort-of-said-in-a-not-so-easy-to-understand-for-noobs way that pressing [ENTER] will archive it if unarchived, and unarchive it if archived.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on August 31, 2007, 10:20:00 am

er, ok, I mean this. how can I put the "RAM" programs on the "ARC"?
if its impossible sorry

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on August 31, 2007, 11:30:00 am

Any program can be in the archive or ram all you have to do is Press [2nd],

, [2], [1] toget to the meory management screen then Press [ENTER] to switch a program from Ram To Arc. Though some games require some of their programs to be in ram and others in arc when ran but unless you are playing the game you should keep all of the programs in archive. Most shells have a way to archive or unarchive programs. All Shells can run programs from archive(by unarchiveing them while they run) but if they have subprograms the subprograms may have to be Unarchived (in RAM)

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Delnar_Ersike on August 31, 2007, 11:44:00 am

To all those basic questions about calc use, how about a very easy (though somewhat curt) answer: rtfm :rtfm:

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2007, 12:27:00 pm

no need to be rude either delnar, but of course the manual is always a good ressource for all this stuff, providing it came with your calc. In PoisonedV case, it didn't though, so I will have to redirect him to the online 83+ manual (since it's compatible with the 84+)

http://education.ti.com/guidebooks/graphing/83p/83m$book-eng.pdf

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on August 31, 2007, 02:29:00 pm

Ok, im sorry I guess I didn't comprehend "ARC" was short for archive, haha. Thanks for that link DJ Omnimaga i think I am figuring everything out, I can start working on a game now

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: lordofthegeeks on August 31, 2007, 02:48:00 pm

Email me if you have any Q: as I am willing to help :)

my email is
\Lordofthegeeks

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Delnar_Ersike on August 31, 2007, 02:55:00 pm

QuoteBegin-lordofthegeeks+31 Aug, 2007, 18:48-->

QUOTE (lordofthegeeks @ 31 Aug, 2007, 18:48)

Email me if you have any Q: as I am willing to help :)

my email is
lordofthegeeks3(at)gmail(dot)com

Edit the email so it is unreadable by bots ASAP.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2007, 02:56:00 pm

i think its better that ppl ask their questions on forums or irc, that way everyone see it and anyone can awnser

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: lordofthegeeks on August 31, 2007, 03:01:00 pm

i meant for programing help.
also It uncluters the forums I could make a thread as the help for basic thread I guess If you like tell me

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2007, 04:41:00 pm

unclutter the forum lol, its always good to see more help topics because then new ppl can use them as reference

anyway whatever float your boat

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on August 31, 2007, 04:54:00 pm

Ok, so for starting out BASIC programming, I should just do normal basic or hop immediately into "xLib?" So far all I have done yet is some basic programs like "if a = 1 then disp "hello world!" etc

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2007, 06:04:00 pm

make sure to master BASIC, then you can move to xlib. by mastering i mean you are able to do something like Illusiat 6 in the archives.

There's also assembly, but it's much harder to understand if you don't have much experience in programming in overall. Some people like jon, liazon and halifax can help you though

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Liazon on September 01, 2007, 05:55:00 am

congrats!

btw, did anyone show him http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/366/36608.html he may need it for some ASM games since he has an 84+(SE).

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 02, 2007, 01:42:00 am

idk, it must have been on the other page, but I wasn't sure, I totally forgot about this prgm x.x

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on September 03, 2007, 09:17:00 am

Thanks for that! I couldnt play desolate. One question, is there a shell better than DoorsCS6? I like it but I can't figure out how to move files to folders...

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: bfr on September 03, 2007, 12:35:00 pm

After creating a folder...

1. Place the mouse over the file's icon
2. Press ALPHA and then select CUT (COPY seems to not even put the selected file in DoorsCS's "clipboard" and I don't think it lets you put the file in a different folder) from the menu with 2ND
3. Navigate to the folder you wish to move the file to
4. Press ALPHA and this time, select PASTE

There are other shells too, such as CrunchyOS and MirageOS, but although they are good too, they aren't necessarily better than DoorsCS. A lot of it is personal preference.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 03, 2007, 02:05:00 pm

I would also check for NoSHell on ticalc.org, enable it on your calc via apps menu then you can run assembly programs directly from the PRGM menu, but you cant sort them in folders

EDIT: moved to Calc help and support forum

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 04, 2007, 05:06:00 am

NoShell is nice but can sometimes have issues with omnicalc or xLib And I like all the features of Doors CS and since you have a 84 SE you have enough memory to have both.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 04, 2007, 05:48:00 am

oooh yeah forgot about that x.x

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on September 04, 2007, 09:16:00 am

Thanks BFR, i never understood why copy didn't work! Now I know how to make folders and for me DCS is perfect now. =D

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 04, 2007, 10:20:00 am

Warning if your ram is cleared the contents of your folders will be dumped into the main folder(unless this was fixed)

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on September 04, 2007, 11:24:00 am

is there a way to make an extra copy of an appvar to RAM?

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 04, 2007, 11:24:00 am

QUOTE

Warning if your ram is cleared the contents of your folders will be dumped into the main folder(unless this was fixed)

......
i wish they would fix this, even mirage still do this

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 04, 2007, 12:26:00 pm

That is because of how the contents of the folder are stored. I just gave up on the whole folder thing but using omnicalc's ram recovery worked for a while but it is just more hassle than its worth, at least for me.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on September 04, 2007, 12:44:00 pm

Appvars are in ram, correct? I will just backup my RAM every few days

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 04, 2007, 01:04:00 pm

appvars can be in both but some apps require them to be in ram to work though if you are not using that app then archive it. DCS (Door CS 6)uses two appvars one in ram and an archived one that is a backup of the one in ram so if there is a ram clear your setting will be saved.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on September 04, 2007, 05:29:00 pm

I've been downloading a lot of games lately, basically going alphabetical... What I have found out is that maybe I should just stick to popular, recommended, or omnimaga games o.o

its great that there are alot of people interested in coding them but some are just plain screwy

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 05, 2007, 03:07:00 am

i warn you, 98% of the TI-BASIC stuff at ticalc and 55% of the ASM/Flash APP is bad, There are very good ones though, if you find a BASIC game under the name of Thomas Dickerson, Bryan Thomas, Hitoshi Koizumi, Fred Sparks, Jeremy (Nitacku) and there may be some others as well, you just need to search carefully. As for asm chances are bigger that you fall on something good, but be careful anyway

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on September 05, 2007, 09:20:00 am

I had a whole bunch of stuff to do today with fractions and averages so I made a program to do it for me, I finished my homework before class ended. This has uses other than making games too, I learned

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: PoisonedV on September 05, 2007, 10:38:00 am

Are there any alternatives to TI Connect? Ti Connect is kinda bad for me...

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: MechaTech84 on September 05, 2007, 10:46:00 am

In reference to your second to last post: Ya, I made a program for geometry, but more specifically for the Distance Formula. You enter the points in the order they appear on the page, (like this if one point is (7,2) and the other point is (-54125+3,5) then you enter 7, then 2, then -3, then 5) and it goes through every step and shows you exactly what to write, without leaving any spaces in between numbers, (only works if the number is 3 digits or less) It was amazingly awesome for geometry, because we used the distance formula sooooooooo much!

As for the next question, there is TI Graph Link, but I don't know if it will work for a 84+ se, or if you can even find it nowadays....

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Liazon on September 05, 2007, 12:08:00 pm

http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/ is a good alternative to ti-connect.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Delnar_Ersike on September 05, 2007, 12:33:00 pm

QuoteBegin-Liazon+5 Sep, 2007, 16:08-->

QUOTE (Liazon @ 5 Sep, 2007, 16:08)

http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/ is a good alternative to ti-connect.

Except in his case, where he obviously uses a USB link cable...

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Xphoenix on September 06, 2007, 11:32:00 am

Check the features section?

QuoteBegin-that section+-->

QUOTE (that section)

FEATURES

TiLP stands for 'Tilp is a Linking Program' (GNU recursive acronyms).

Supported platforms are : Linux, Windows, Mac OS-X, FreeBSD.
Supported link cables are : GrayLink, BlackLink, SilverLink, DirectLink ParallelLink, VTi (virtual) and TiEmu (virtual).
Supported hand-helds are : TI73, TI82, TI83, TI83+, TI84+, TI85, TI86, TI89, Titanium, TI92, TI92+, V200.

Capabilities : silent link, screendump, directory listing, send/recv of vars, send/Recv of backups, send/recv of FLASH apps, send of OS, ROM dumping, ID LIST, clock, create folder, delete var/app, ...

LIMITATIONS

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 06, 2007, 05:23:00 pm

84 only support USB so it should work, but i heard in the past nobody did got it to work

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 07, 2007, 10:44:00 am

I never got it to work and TI-connect works for me so whatever.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: MechaTech84 on September 08, 2007, 01:45:00 am

What is TI graph link good for? I hear it mentioned a lot, but I could never find a link so I never tried it....

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 08, 2007, 02:22:00 am

It's TI-Connect ancestor, my TI-83+SE came with it on a CD with the original black link cable from 2001

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: MechaTech84 on September 08, 2007, 02:28:00 am

I used to have a TI 83+SE... I wonder if I still have the CD...... Hmmmmmmmmm.......

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 08, 2007, 06:12:00 am

if you bought it in late 2002 or later it prbly didnt came with TI graph link, the CD must have TI connect

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 08, 2007, 10:00:00 am

Well my 84+ cd has graph link on it and my sisters 83+se cd has it too.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 08, 2007, 10:23:00 am

wow i didnt knew they still supported it it's near impossible to find on their site o.o

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 08, 2007, 10:30:00 am

I don't think they support it but you can still get it. I Can only send files using the old cables not any of the usb ones.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 08, 2007, 11:58:00 am

yeah and tigl only support the old ones

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: Liazon on September 09, 2007, 12:24:00 pm

graphlink let you write basic programs and upload to calc w/ the serial cables

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 09, 2007, 12:48:00 pm

yeah i know, i have it installed right now

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 09, 2007, 12:53:00 pm

But if you can find it "TI Program Editor" was better.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 09, 2007, 01:34:00 pm

ah ok. is it stable tho?

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: JonimusPrime on September 09, 2007, 01:40:00 pm

Yeah but don't click check syntax it has never heard of optimization.

Title: Finally got my calc
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 09, 2007, 01:52:00 pm

ok %)