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Title: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: dontturn on August 31, 2013, 06:04:08 pm
I am looking to buy a TI Nspire CX and dual boot it with 3.1 and 3.1 using nLaunch. The problem is, all new CX's have the new boot2. I read that it's possible to reflash the boot2, to the version that nLaunch and ndless exploit, using an arduino. I have an arduino and I know how to hook all of it up, but how do I actually reflash my nspire? How do I go about the actual reflashing process? I've looked for hours to find a guide, I found many showing how to hook the arduino up but none explaining how to reflash it.
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: Streetwalrus on August 31, 2013, 06:25:23 pm
It's actually impossible due to new hardware, sorry. :/ You may be luckier with a used model, just ask if the last letter of the serial number is lower than J (mine is C for example).
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: critor on August 31, 2013, 07:00:08 pm
Yes, you can reflash the old Boot2 3.1, but it just won't work on TI-Nspire CX HW-J and we still haven't understood why for now.
So it's useless for now.
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: Legimet on August 31, 2013, 07:01:08 pm
See this (http://ourl.ca/19500) topic. The calcs with hardware revision J have different hardware, making it impossible to run an older boot2. :(
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: dontturn on August 31, 2013, 07:06:05 pm
See this (http://ourl.ca/19500) topic. The calcs with hardware revision J have different hardware, making it impossible to run an older boot2. :(

I read that topic, and the one previous, which stated
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The TI-Nspire community wasn't worried about that:

current TI-Nspire users should simply be careful not to update their Boot2 when updating their system, thanks to the small TNOC tool
in case of omission of this manipulation, it was still possible to reprogram the older Boot2 version using an inexpensive TTL/USB interface (RS232)
and owners of new TI-Nspire CX could also apply this last solution

Since it said that owners of the new CX could do that, I thought it meant I would be able to reflash it.

Well I guess I'll just have to hope no one else tries to snipe this ebay auction then
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: Legimet on August 31, 2013, 07:10:28 pm
Yeah but that was before Critor found that when you flash the old boot2, it doesn't run.
Look for calcs with hardware revision from A-I. My calcs have revisions D and E.
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: critor on August 31, 2013, 07:15:39 pm
I read that topic, and the one previous, which stated
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The TI-Nspire community wasn't worried about that:

current TI-Nspire users should simply be careful not to update their Boot2 when updating their system, thanks to the small TNOC tool
in case of omission of this manipulation, it was still possible to reprogram the older Boot2 version using an inexpensive TTL/USB interface (RS232)
and owners of new TI-Nspire CX could also apply this last solution

Yes, we weren't worried at all when we discovered the new Boot2/OS 3.2.4 a couple of months ago, and we were wrong - completely wrong.

Just read further - this isn't the end of the post.
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: dontturn on August 31, 2013, 10:18:35 pm
I managed to get a very nice CX off ebay for $90, the datestamp is P-0612E and it's running 3.2.0.1212
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2013, 11:21:02 pm
Hopefully you can manage to downgrade that one. Of course you might need a special adapter, but it should be possible.
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: dontturn on August 31, 2013, 11:23:56 pm
Hopefully you can manage to downgrade that one. Of course you might need a special adapter, but it should be possible.
If I did need to reflash it, do you know how I would go about doing that?
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2013, 11:47:20 pm
You need something like an RS232/TTL adapter.
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: dontturn on August 31, 2013, 11:52:02 pm
You need something like an RS232/TTL adapter.

Assuming I already have some sort of computer hooked up to it (I would probably use my arduino), what do I do then?
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: njaddison on September 01, 2013, 12:13:00 am
Wow, I haven't been on the forums for a while...
But anyway,  I asked my mom to buy me an Arduino Uno, telling her exactly what it was, but not what I needed it for. She had no clue what I was talking about.  ;D
Hopefully, she'll decide to order it for me from Amazon.
But could someone please make a tutorial vid on how to use the Arduino to downgrade my boot 2 (A.K.A. where to place each wire, etc.)? I recently bought a CX CAS and it came with OS 3.2.4, which unfortunately, has downgrade protection. Luckily, nLaunch CX exists, but I need a Arduino or some other RS232 interface. And I don't know what to do with it even if I already have one. I have an RS232 cord, but I don't know how to use it, and I don't want my new calc to blow up because of over-voltage. Thanks!
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: dontturn on September 01, 2013, 12:18:27 am
Wow, I haven't been on the forums for a while...
But anyway,  I asked my mom to buy me an Arduino Uno, telling her exactly what it was, but not what I needed it for. She had no clue what I was talking about.  ;D
Hopefully, she'll decide to order it for me from Amazon.
But could someone please make a tutorial vid on how to use the Arduino to downgrade my boot 2 (A.K.A. where to place each wire, etc.)? I recently bought a CX CAS and it came with OS 3.2.4, which unfortunately, has downgrade protection. Luckily, nLaunch CX exists, but I need a Arduino or some other RS232 interface. And I don't know what to do with it even if I already have one. I have an RS232 cord, but I don't know how to use it, and I don't want my new calc to blow up because of over-voltage. Thanks!

Here you go, this shows how to hook the arduino up, but I still don't know how to actually go about flashing the boot2 with the arduino, does anyone know how?
(http://tiplanet.org/forum/gallery/image.php?mode=medium&album_id=4&image_id=39)
(http://tiplanet.org/forum/gallery/image.php?mode=medium&album_id=4&image_id=186)
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: njaddison on September 01, 2013, 12:23:30 am
Would I need to buy the cords and the white thing(I think that is some sort of voltage regulator, but I'm not sure) that are in the picture, or do they come with the Arduino? And I don't know what revision my calc is either. All I know is I got it in May this year.
EDIT:
You can use Hyperterminal and Xmodem to transfer the file I think but you need Windows XP or less
Otherwise you'll have to find an RS232 program for Windows Vista and above
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 01, 2013, 12:25:30 am
Hmm just one thing: Be VERY careful when connecting anything to the Nspire dock port! If you accidentally touch the wrong pins, you can permanently damage the calculator by short-circuiting it or other stuff. This happened to some people who tried the sound programs.
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: dontturn on September 01, 2013, 12:26:58 am
Would I need to buy the cords and the white thing(I think that is some sort of voltage regulator, but I'm not sure) that are in the picture, or do they come with the Arduino? And I don't know what revision my calc is either. All I know is I got it in May this year.

That's not a voltage regulator, it's 3 jumper wires connected to an LED and some wires in heat shrink tubing. And don't worry about it. You're not going to blow out your calculator with 5v and 50mA

Edit: Okay so with that arduino information and this (http://hackspire.unsads.com/wiki/index.php/Operating_System) I can do it. I'll flash it when my calculator arrives, even if it doesn't need flashing. Mostly because there is not a tutorial anywhere on the internet to do this
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: Juju on September 01, 2013, 12:38:22 am
The Arduino should shut off automatically when there's a short circuit so the Nspire won't be damaged, so you shouldn't have any problems, unless you put way more than 5V in your Arduino.

Also please don't double post (post twice in a row), there's the Modify button for that, thanks ^_^
Title: Re: How to reflash new TI Nspire CX
Post by: critor on September 01, 2013, 03:22:40 am
I managed to get a very nice CX off ebay for $90, the datestamp is P-0612E and it's running 3.2.0.1212

So it will probably come with Boot2 3.1.
You don't need he RS232 thing - just send the 3.1 OS through USB.