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Title: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 06, 2013, 05:20:47 pm
So I have the Ti-nspire (non CAX or whatever) and I have downloaded the TI-Nspire Computer Link software and have put programs on the calculator. I can open them from the My Documents part, the .tns programs are in the MyLib folder, but now how do I run them? I downloaded my programs from this page: http://www.ticalc.org/pub/nspire/basic/m… ; every time I try to use them, the calculator says that the function being used is not defined.  I have already refreshed my library as well. If you could help me out, that would be great, thanks.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 06, 2013, 08:10:52 pm
Which program specifically?
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 06, 2013, 08:16:31 pm
how about the most important one: cmplxanlys.zip ; because as far as I know, the TI-nspire cannot do laplace and inverse laplace: http://www.ticalc.org/pub/nspire/basic/math/
it says that it's for the CAS, but I have the regular version; should this matter?
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: Rhombicuboctahedron on February 06, 2013, 08:48:11 pm
Yes, matters, because the cas has functions that the non cas does not, and thus the non cas will say that the function being used is not defined
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 06, 2013, 10:27:12 pm
OK, thanks, but I can't seem to get any programs to run on it.  Surely some of them were written for just the TI -nspire when the CAS and CX had not come out yet.  I think I am missing some simple steps here.  To run a .tns file, you click on Home, then My Documents, MyLib, click on the program file you want, tab over to the part with the equations and just hit enter on one of them?  it will tell me "Variable is not defined"
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 07, 2013, 09:32:30 am
Could it be that the programs were written for much older OSes and can no longer be opened on newer ones or vice-versa? What OS do you have? According to the file, it is recent so it was most likely written for OS 3.2.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: Adriweb on February 07, 2013, 10:35:37 am
No, I also believe the issue here is that you have a non-cas device while the program requires the CAS engine.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 07, 2013, 09:18:07 pm
I am upgraded to the latest OS on my TI-nspire.  If I return this calc to Amazon and just buy a CAS at Walmart (although I think Amazon still might have the best price: $65 last time I checked), will it matter that I have already used the codes and ordered the free TI-84 pad, etc?
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 07, 2013, 10:29:18 pm
Which generation is this? Clickpad, Touchpad, or CX? If you have a Clickpad or Touchpad, you can just install the CAS version of the operating system on your current calculator using nLaunch. (http://ourl.ca/180615)
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 07, 2013, 10:40:22 pm
it is Touchpad.  Really? so that the programs will work?  I have not heard of doing that, I will try it, thank you.
--> the CAS OS can be found here: http://education.ti.com/en/us/software/search/ti-nspire-cas

does it matter CAS vs CX CAS? 
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: Levak on February 08, 2013, 07:31:09 am
does it matter CAS vs CX CAS? 
The CX has a color screen. The Touchpad has a grayscale screen. I don't think it will be sane to run.
Also, CX OSes are RSA 2048 signed, versus Touchpad&Clickpad OSes that use RSA 1024.
Finally, CX and Clickpad&Touchpad use different memory chips & stuff, not really a good idea to run a CX OS on a non CX one.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 08, 2013, 10:15:03 pm
@Levak ; not really a good idea?  because I am a poor college student who really needs his calculator to do laplace and inverse laplace for exams, which cannot be done without this OS.  I will try it anyway before having to pay an extra $80+ just to run this simple program.  Hopefully it will not mess up the calculator before I return it if this does not work
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 08, 2013, 10:45:56 pm
@Levak ; not really a good idea?  because I am a poor college student who really needs his calculator to do laplace and inverse laplace for exams, which cannot be done without this OS.  I will try it anyway before having to pay an extra $80+ just to run this simple program.  Hopefully it will not mess up the calculator before I return it if this does not work
By not really a good idea, he means it won't work at all. The CX and non-CX have different hardware, which means different memory addresses and such so the OSes are incompatible. But do go ahead and try nLaunch, and make sure to install the CAS non-CX OS. Here's a link to the right OS: http://tiplanet.org/forum/archives_voir.php?id=3720
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 09, 2013, 10:17:59 pm
I have downloaded the file, converted it with TNOC, but Ti-nspire Computer Link will not let me put the OS file on my calculator because it says that it's the wrong handheld type for the file; also that TI-planet will not translate any pages into English and it's confusing to navigate
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 09, 2013, 11:50:21 pm
Did you look at the readme for nLaunch? You have to rename the OS file to phoenix.tns and send it as a document to the calculator, and then send a different, glitched OS file that starts the installation process.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on February 10, 2013, 01:49:33 am
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also that TI-planet will not translate any pages into English
Our most important news items, and a number of tutorials, are available in English ;)

nLaunch does indeed require users to read a README and follow detailed instructions.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: Hayleia on February 10, 2013, 02:02:23 am
TI-planet will not translate any pages into English and it's confusing to navigate
Nobody complained that Omnimaga was only available in English, so nobody should complain that TI Planet is only available in French, most of all because (as Lionel said) the admins put additionnal work to translate most important pages in English.
And for the confusing navigation, I guess you are talking about smart navigation, that you can disable with "Désactiver la navigation intelligente".
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 10, 2013, 04:55:50 pm
I tried sending the OS as a document, but it won't let me.  It says that it's the wrong file type for the handheld.  The readme says that I need to have nsNandMgr on it first?
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on February 11, 2013, 01:19:42 am
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I tried sending the OS as a document, but it won't let me. It says that it's the wrong file type for the handheld.
Then you simply didn't transfer it as a document ;)
Make a copy or a symlink of the OS file under the appropriate name, as described in the documentation, and it shall work.

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The readme says that I need to have nsNandMgr on it first?
Not necessarily, only if your calculator doesn't have boot2 1.4.1571.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 11, 2013, 02:34:19 pm
well, regardless if I name the TNC file as"phoenix.tns" the calculator does not see it as a .tns.  The TI-nspire touchpad will only accept (I think) TNO  OS files, so maybe I will try renaming it as .tno
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: lkj on February 11, 2013, 02:52:04 pm
You have to change the ".tnc" extension to ".tns" and this is only possible if you can see the ".tnc". If you can't see it, you have to change the settings of your computer first (uncheck "Hide known file extensions" in the options if you're on Windows).
Right now you probably have a file named "phoenix.tns.tnc" but only see the first part of the name.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 11, 2013, 02:57:25 pm
You have to change the ".tnc" extension to ".tns" and this is only possible if you can see the ".tnc". If you can't see it, you have to change the settings of your computer first (uncheck "Hide known file extensions" in the options if you're on Windows).
Right now you probably have a file named "phoenix.tns.tnc" but only see the first part of the name.
you are right my man.  Thank you.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 11, 2013, 09:24:59 pm
so I now have phoenix.tns on my calc, under nlaunch.  But now when I send it the nlaunch.tno, it says that the OS is corrupt and will not install on my calculator.  Retrying multiple times does not help  :w00t:
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on February 12, 2013, 01:48:05 am
Some versions of TINC(L)S attempt to detect weird OS files, as an attempt to try and prevent people from using DowngradeFix (and nLaunch, as it uses the same vulnerability, but it was released after the faulty versions of TINC(L)S).
Of course, as a FLOSS program, TILP II SVN HEAD does not attempt to restrict users' right to tinker, and sends weird OS files just fine. On Windows, TILP II 1.16 and the newest betas (the latest posts of http://ourl.ca/4010 ) can be installed side by side with TI-Connect and TINC(L)S - but again, this will require applying instructions from a README properly.
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 12, 2013, 01:10:34 pm
The latest version worked fine for me: http://education.ti.com/en/us/software/details/en/82035809F7E6474099944056CCB01C20/ti-nspire_computerlink
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 12, 2013, 01:26:04 pm
not for me though, for some reason.  I have the same version.  I am trying to use TiLP now; but this process is a huge pain now; thanks for the help Lionel
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 12, 2013, 01:55:35 pm
so I have got TilP2 to recognize my calculator, I can see the files and stuff on it after installing the driver, but when I give it the OS update of nlauch.tno, it says Invalid packet. Cause: a transmission error.  Now TI Computer Link will not recognize the calculator.  
~ I have since given up.  The calc with be returned and a CAS bought from Ebay for $60; thanks anway
Title: Re: How to run programs on Ti-nspire?
Post by: xinthose on February 16, 2013, 06:49:19 pm
I found the library button!  Thank you God.  finally; it has a picture of a book on it and it's under the delete button on the right hand side; in order to run the programs I aforementioned trying to do, you must have a CAS nspire, it cannot be a regular TI nspire.  so in scratchpad you hit that button, go to 6, and there should be all of your programs.  A good link to buy the CAS if you don't mind refurbished, the one I bought looks and works fine.  $60
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Texas-Instruments-TI-Nspire-CAS-with-Touchpad-Black-N2CAS-CLM-2L1-N-spire-/181069420765?pt=Calculators&hash=item2a289418dd