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Title: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 25, 2013, 02:03:35 pm
If this is illegal, delete it immediately as I do not support pirating.

I found this site. What should I get from it to emulate a Ti Nspire CX CAS OS 3.1 (newest Ndless supported OS) that I will put Ndless on? I'm just emulating it to get a feel for it before I get it.
Also, a brief HOW-TO on emulating it when i get my files in order!
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Streetwalrus on March 25, 2013, 02:09:58 pm
You just need a boot1 image. The OS can be downloaded from TIPlanet from which you can extract he boot2 image. That's all for the calc files.
Then use nspire_emu (you may prefer kArmTI since it's more user friendly and has skin support). ;)

I'm personally using the boot1 I had a friend dump for me from his calc. :P
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 25, 2013, 02:15:54 pm
Yeah the other Nspire emu doesn't seem like a good idea :P
This is great, thanks! Idk what versions I'll need exactly but I'll figure it out.

So boot1 is the equivalent of a ROM from an 84+SE in this sense, right? What version will I need?

I also need a link to the newest Ndless compatible OS...
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Streetwalrus on March 25, 2013, 02:28:01 pm
It's the first part of the boot code to be exact.
I don't think there's a specific version.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 25, 2013, 02:29:15 pm
It's the first part of the boot code to be exact.
I don't think there's a specific version.

It isn't hosted anywhere I can find. So I will have to wait until I get mine.
OS 3.1.0.392 isn't either? I hate navigating these French websites...
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Streetwalrus on March 25, 2013, 02:30:48 pm
I meant there's no specific boot1, you just need a CX one.
And that's the correct OS version.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 25, 2013, 02:39:40 pm
Yeah I have the files, just very confused. Please list what I need to run Nspire_emu_070 and to run kArmTI...
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Adriweb on March 25, 2013, 03:08:01 pm
Yeah I have the files, just very confused. Please list what I need to run Nspire_emu_070 and to run kArmTI...
For the CX emulation :
 - a boot1 file you dumped with a ndlessed CX with Critor's polydumper
 - a boot2 file you can dum also with polyDumper but which you can also extract from the OSes
 - the OS file (all available from TI-Planet)

Tutorial for nspire_emu / karmTI command line : http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=8698
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: ElementCoder on March 25, 2013, 03:21:04 pm
You need either a boot1 file or a decompressed boot2, there's no need for both. Either way you need to use polydumper.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Lionel Debroux on March 25, 2013, 03:26:23 pm
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Either way you need to use polydumper.
... for a CX. For Clickpad and Touchpad, unstripped OS >= 1.6 upgrades are enough :)
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Deep Toaster on March 25, 2013, 03:41:30 pm
If this is illegal, delete it immediately as I do not support pirating.
For the record, emulation with a copyrighted boot code (such as in a TI-83 Plus ROM file not using BootFree or TI-Nspire's boot1) is legal in the US if you own a physical copy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_emulator#Legal_issues) of the device you're emulating.

So technically, it's legal for you when the calculator is yours.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 25, 2013, 03:47:06 pm
I run it for the first time and it says "install failed" and stops there. If you need more debug info, lemme know.

EDIT:
The problem was because I had some OS stuff messed up. I had to do a lot of.. file manipulation to get it to work. :P
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Levak on March 25, 2013, 06:02:02 pm
I hate navigating these French websites...
Thanks, I appreciate, really.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: aeTIos on March 25, 2013, 06:05:05 pm
I hate navigating these French websites...
Thanks, I appreciate, really.
Don't take that personally, he's just saying that he doesn't understand French websites. I don't understand them either. I also don't understand Spanish or Russian sites.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: hellninjas on March 25, 2013, 06:05:56 pm
Translate.google.com !
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Ti-Programmer on March 25, 2013, 06:10:24 pm
Ehh, I forsee this thread turning into a rage of English vs other languages, so I'll put my two cents into the machine before it gets bad. I don't have a problem with the look/navigation of the site, I just wish the translation was better than Google translate. Incase you guys didn't notice Google translate screws the entire site up, at least for me, and when I hover over anything its a giant "reply" button that covers my entire screen. But hey, if its no big problem, whatever. I'm not pushing for all English, only English, I just want compatibility. It is kinda intimidating to read a whole page in a language I don't understand lol I guess that's how some people view English, but that's another topic.

Now for some moderator to come under me and say something to the tune of "get back on topic!"
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Juju on March 25, 2013, 06:15:53 pm
Yeah well, just use Google Translate and navigate your way to the ROMs. I guess it's kinda obvious (unless TI-Planet is slow on your computer). Other than that, yeah try to not deviate too much from topic.

Télécharger = Download
Programmes = Programs
The rest should be kinda obvious.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: TIfanx1999 on March 25, 2013, 06:18:17 pm
It's a french site, so I'm not really sure what you would expect. Honestly viewing the site through Google translate has been fine for me. Also, most major news topics are posted in both languages, and you can post in either language.

Now for some moderator to come under me and say something to the tune of "get back on topic!"

Now that that's taken care of... get back on topic! :P
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Juju on March 25, 2013, 06:22:38 pm
Yeah, the major news stories on TI-Planet are usually translated in English and posted on Omnimaga. Rule of thumb: if critor or adriweb posts a news on Omnimaga, it's a translation from TI-Planet. (Wait, we're getting off-topic again.)
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 25, 2013, 06:51:52 pm
This is why I begged Adriweb/Critor to upload direct links in Omnimaga archives for the popular TI-Nspire programs they made (that way they don't need to update the files at 2 places, since over here they're hotlinked), because it would make it much easier for the English TI community if everything Nspire-related wasn't TI-Planet-only. We could upload the files ourselves then ask admins to replace the author with the appropriate one, but then we might get a bad reputation among other english archives since it's looked upon in the English community to upload other people's files in Omni/ticalc/Cemetech/whatever non-french archives.

By the way, TI-Planet has every TI-OS available on their website, but all of the ones still available on TI server are just redirects to the respective files.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Adriweb on March 25, 2013, 09:03:32 pm
By the way, TI-Planet has every TI-OS available on their website, but all of the ones still available on TI server are just redirects to the respective files.
yeah, and usually, when (like recently) TI deletes some OS on their server, we upload our backups directly on our server so that it's still available.
If you do find some dead OS links, please tell us :)
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 26, 2013, 02:36:31 pm
Well, I did report dead files links (TI-Graph Link software, for instance) before to Critor and he never replied. :P In your case would PM there work?
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 26, 2013, 04:02:49 pm
The redirects to the download for the Ti Nspire connect software work, but the application won't run. It says it's an invalid application. I did whatever I could, nothing.
With kArm, I'm having trouble installing Ndless. I'll try again today.

I used three different translation tools. The best one is Bing, but if you use a search tool or navigate somehow without clicking a link, Bing's tool thinks you don't need it anymore.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Adriweb on March 26, 2013, 04:09:31 pm
Well, I did report dead files links (TI-Graph Link software, for instance) before to Critor and he never replied. :P In your case would PM there work?
Sure, but an email with the links/name would be even better ^^
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 27, 2013, 03:14:20 pm
The emulator is obviously not a complete one. ^^ It's quite sufficient, however. I'll wait for mom to give me the CX CAS and use it instead.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Deep Toaster on March 27, 2013, 05:42:02 pm
The emulator is obviously not a complete one. ^^ It's quite sufficient, however. I'll wait for mom to give me the CX CAS and use it instead.
Why is it not complete? It is a full TI-Nspire emulator.

If you mean that it lacks a GUI, it does take some getting used to, but all functionality is there. Or you could try SpiroH's kArmTI (http://ourl.ca/16585) project which is an older version of nspire_emu with a GUI attached.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 27, 2013, 06:03:39 pm
Well is there a way to combine kArmTI and the newest emu?
I can't run any of the emulators for games (gbc, GBA, NES,) or utilities like mViewer or Commander. I figured this was a problem with the emu.. my bad.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Deep Toaster on March 27, 2013, 06:12:41 pm
I can't run any of the emulators for games (gbc, GBA, NES,) or utilities like mViewer or Commander. I figured this was a problem with the emu.. my bad.
Did you install Ndless?
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 27, 2013, 06:20:10 pm
Yes. I'm not a supernewb anymore :P
It just crashes when I try to run gpSP, and anything else that wont work just freezes it
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Lionel Debroux on March 28, 2013, 02:25:25 am
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Well is there a way to combine kArmTI and the newest emu?
The latest build of kArmTI is based on nspire_emu 0.70, AFAICT.

In general, only its author can upgrade kArmTI, as it's stubbornly closed-source, despite the obvious usefulness of having it open source and the equally obvious pitfalls and downsides of having it closed source. But this topic has already been discussed multiple times without forward progress and is now in moderation territory.
Title: Re: I'm emulating an Nspire.
Post by: Dapianokid on March 28, 2013, 03:30:26 pm
I see. I'm a proprietor of open source programming :)

Isn't 070 the newest one?