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Title: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: runeazn on August 17, 2011, 09:11:10 am
So I finally figured out after much testing how to install it properly.

1. Uninstall all programs for linking, student TI nspire software can stay as it doesnt give any problems, for me atleast, uninstall for more chance of succession.
2. Reboot.
3. Install TiLP
4. go to device manager and go to libusb, your device not there go to 5, if it is go straight to 8. (Step 5-7 are not a must, but i recommend them.)
5.uninstall TI educational device or unknown device at the usb bus controllers
6. reboot
7. let it install the ti educational driver.
8. Go back to device manager. Click update drivers on the Ti educational device/unknown device.
9. Browse manually for drivers, and then let me pick from a list on my computer.
10. you see the educational driver and under there TI-84+ silver driver! Yes thats the one we need.
11. try to install it, it fails right? Reboot and before it is starting windows hit F8, and click on disable digital driver signing enforcement.
12. Redo step 8+9
13. Start TiLP, go to change device(shortcut CTRL+D).
14. select  TI84+ click on the magnifier to search, change port number to the port number it shows.
15. change time-out to 10 seconds(fill in 10000) if you get the error, device timeout, which you almost certainly will get as that is the problem we get at ti connect, unable to communicate.
16. viola you got it working :)
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: Lionel Debroux on August 17, 2011, 09:28:54 am
This procedure looks like it should work with TILP II releases up to 1.15, thanks for taking the time to write it up.

However, note that it's already effectively obsolete :)
The latest beta builds of TILP II 1.16, hosted on lpg.ticalc.org and linked to from topics on Omnimaga and Cemetech, use a signed driver with filter driver capability. This means that not only it's no longer necessary to disable digital driver signing enforcement, but also that TILP II 1.16 (libticables), TI-Connect and TINCS/TINCLS can be installed side by side.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: runeazn on August 17, 2011, 09:48:36 am
OMFG
ALLL THE TROUBLE I GONE TROUGH 2 days and the threads i bumped up omg.

ah well  why did nobody tell me :(

but the problem didnt lie in the driver it was the timeout that caused the problem
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: SirCmpwn on August 17, 2011, 11:33:42 am
tl;dr
You should set anything you are having problems with to run in XP SP3 compatibility mode, works for me every time.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: runeazn on August 17, 2011, 11:34:12 am
that didnt work i tried ;)
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: PikachuCLS on October 21, 2012, 04:47:24 pm
This modified guide is for all versions of Windows, especially for people with slow boot times and don't want to reboot so many times...  ;D
If you don't have TI-Connect installed, skip the first step.
TILP should now be able to detect your device.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: Lionel Debroux on October 22, 2012, 01:42:51 am
Thanks for that detailed procedure, but as hinted in reply #1, it has been obsolete for more than a year ;)

TILP II 1.16 and newer can be installed side by side with TI-Connect, TINCS and TINCLS, in such a way that both TI's software and TILP can be in a working state at a given point in time on a given computer (without having to uninstall the other one). Obviously, they cannot communicate simultaneously with a given calculator.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 22, 2012, 03:22:14 am
TILP II 1.16 and newer can be installed side by side with TI-Connect

They now can?? O.O  *.* :crazy: :o :hyper:

Wow I need to check new posts more often. I might install TiLP at one point for the first time in a few years. The reason why i never installed it on this computer was that back then, some people who previously tried TI-Connect with success, then switched to TiLP after uninstalling and TiLP wouldn't work properly, then when uninstalling it to install TI-Connect, TI-Connect would never work again. I didn't want to risk ruining this TI-Connect install at a time I only had one decently working computer and was heavily testing Axe programs. D:

Also back then, the GTK/GTK+/whatever conflicts with TiEmu/TilEm were quite annoying x.x (I had to constantly switch between runtime versions if I was using TiLP and TiEmu back and forth, which was quite ironic considering both softwares were from the very same team).
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: PikachuCLS on October 22, 2012, 09:01:11 pm
Thanks for that detailed procedure, but as hinted in reply #1, it has been obsolete for more than a year ;)
Really? I was using TILP 1.16 and I had to disable driver signing in order to access TI84+ SE Driver. Perhaps it's just WinXP  ;D

And just to clarify on your quote, TI-Connect setup has no option to not install the driver, so it screws everything up. Is there any way to disable that or will TI-Connect always have to be installed first for parallel to work?
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: Lionel Debroux on October 23, 2012, 01:21:57 am
AFAICT (and as far as the libusb site / documentation says, IIRC), the "missing signature" warning message is bogus. TILP (libticables) uses libusb, which contains an embedded signature.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: allanonmage on April 04, 2013, 05:18:03 pm
I don't know enough to know what's going on or what's not working.  I have a TI-84+ (no idea if it's silver edition or not), and I can't get TiLP to connect to it.

Laptop is Windows 7 64 bit Pro
I had the TI software on there first, but uninstalled it when i found out that it wouldn't do what I wanted (suck a ROM out of my calculator).

Right now the calculator shows up as Other Devices, TI-84 Plus in Device manager.  I've tried searching the TiLP and GTK folders for drivers and neither windows nor I can find them.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled several times, no change.

When TiLP starts up, it does not see the calculator, nor does the "ready?" seem ready (ironic eh?).

All the documentation refers to things that I can't find explanations on.  I have a regular USB mini cable since the calculator has a builtin USB port.

This guide seems comprehensive, but I can't make it work.

How can I suck a ROM image out of my calculator on Windows 7 64 bit?
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 04, 2013, 10:30:46 pm
From experience with calc linking problems, if reading the instructions carefully before installing and following the troubleshooting/FAQ section step-by-step still doesn't solve the issues, the only solution is to reformat your computer or buy a new one. (Although even then, if the calc link port is defective, then nothing can be done) At school I remember only 1 computer out of two, running the exact same hard drive content (via Deep Freeze) over the entire network, same hardware between each computer, linking softwares of any sort would actually work.

Maybe Lionel or other people got alternate solutions, though.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: Lionel Debroux on April 05, 2013, 02:05:10 am
Quote
Right now the calculator shows up as Other Devices, TI-84 Plus in Device manager
"Other devices" reads like it's not the appropriate driver (which would be under "Libusb-win32 devices"), and then, it's natural if TILP cannot see your calculator ;)
Did you plug the calculator to the computer before installing TI-Connect or TILP ? In that situation, Windows installs its own, wrong driver for the device (neither TI-Connect, nor TILP can do anything with it), and then, you need to manually change the driver to TILP's driver (libusb0.dll/.sys, or the .inf file in Program Files (x86)\{Common Files}\LPG Shared\drivers\usb).
It's important to know whether your 84+ is a regular one or a Silver Edition: those have different USB PIDs. Silver Edition calcs have part of the top side (where you plug cables) near-white.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: heimsothe on April 05, 2013, 02:09:20 am
Lionel could you help me out with my CX? I private messaged you
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: Lionel Debroux on April 05, 2013, 02:14:24 am
See your PMs on TI-Planet, they contain a reply to the topic you created, then deleted, on TI-Planet ;)
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: aeTIos on April 05, 2013, 06:26:40 am
Why is this topic being bumped every year <_<
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 07, 2013, 11:15:35 pm
Well I think it's better than ending up with multiple topics about similar problems :P
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: aeTIos on April 09, 2013, 07:19:43 am
That's true ;D
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: Jonius7 on April 09, 2013, 07:24:55 am
That makes things interesting. I tried to use TiLP for what seems like a long time ago. Never got it to fully work with my TI-nspire. Fortunately I could go back to TI-nspire Computer Link Software
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: Lionel Debroux on April 09, 2013, 07:31:46 am
The main Nspire support piece missing from libticalcs is nested folders support. It's an infrequent feature request, which testifies to both the mild number of TILP users (even if it's certainly on the rise, due to the rise of Linux usage and the fact that it's been possible to use it on Windows alongside official software for more than a year and a half), and the infrequent usage of nested folders. People usually use a single level of folders on their Nspires, like TI-68k users do.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: aeTIos on April 09, 2013, 08:12:55 am
Will it get fixed? I have quite some nested folders.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: Lionel Debroux on April 09, 2013, 08:37:28 am
A while ago, I had started making the necessary changes, in fact :)
When I stopped, the enumeration part in libticalcs was alright, but the layer above that (translating data structures for building the UI) in TILP wasn't. Then, I moved on to other areas of development in the libti*/gfm/tilp code base...

In my TODO list, I don't remember whether I tentatively put the entry in the TILP II 1.18 development cycle, or whether I set it aside for later. However, since there is an actual user for the feature, it might move up, if I find the time.
Title: Re: Install TiLP succesfully, fixes unable to communicate problem on Windows 7
Post by: aeTIos on April 09, 2013, 10:02:57 am
Well the work scheme I have now is send file to calc > ctrl-c -> go to folder -> ctrl-v -> delete other file