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Calculator Community => TI Calculators => General Calculator Help => Topic started by: mushmoom on October 19, 2011, 08:02:00 pm

Title: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 19, 2011, 08:02:00 pm
Well, I got a touchpad nspire a few days ago and was wondering how I could run ndless if my operating system was 3.0.1.1753.  What should I do?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: NecroBumpist on October 19, 2011, 08:28:30 pm
You should wait.
There is no Ndless 3.x yet.
There is no* way to downgrade a calc with an unpatched 3.x operating system.
There is only time.

Spoiler For *:
By this I mean simple way, I think I recall something about using the dock to downgrade it, but this requires extra equipment
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 19, 2011, 08:37:07 pm
You should wait.
There is no Ndless 3.x yet.
There is no* way to downgrade a calc with an unpatched 3.x operating system.
There is only time.

Spoiler For *:
By this I mean simple way, I think I recall something about using the dock to downgrade it, but this requires extra equipment
An RS232 interface, actually.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on October 20, 2011, 02:38:36 am
Indeed, you can downgrade the boot2 with the rs232 interface, and then use downgradefix to be able to downgrade.

But this isn't the most easy thing to do, so unless you have the right tools, you are stuck with Lua games and programs (some which are fun :D).
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Cuervo on October 20, 2011, 05:09:07 am
Has anybody tried to downgrade the CX CAS yet?
I updated mine to 3.1.0, which also updated the boot2 to 3.1, can I go back to 3.0.2 if I have an USB <=> TTL RS232 Adapter?

Or will Ndless 3.0 also work on OS 3.1?

TIA
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Keoni29 on October 20, 2011, 05:11:12 am
Doesnt it allow downgrades? Thats evil :P
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Cuervo on October 20, 2011, 05:38:48 am
It does, but then I have OS 3.0.2 and boot2 3.1.0..-.-

And I don't know if ndless will work with boot2 3.1.0, because ndless 2 also included some lowlevel code (I think).
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: calc84maniac on October 20, 2011, 09:20:24 am
Has anybody tried to downgrade the CX CAS yet?
I updated mine to 3.1.0, which also updated the boot2 to 3.1, can I go back to 3.0.2 if I have an USB <=> TTL RS232 Adapter?

Or will Ndless 3.0 also work on OS 3.1?

TIA
Ndless 3.0 will work on OS 3.1, the only problem is that it's not finished or released yet :P
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 23, 2011, 09:52:30 am
Where can I find it?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Yeong on October 23, 2011, 09:53:03 am
It's not out yet.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: alberthrocks on October 23, 2011, 09:55:14 am
Bleh, you guys made me think one exists now :P
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Lionel Debroux on October 23, 2011, 10:47:34 am
You cannot find it, and nobody can find it, because it doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: alberthrocks on October 23, 2011, 10:51:54 am
You cannot find it, and nobody can find it, because it doesn't exist.
I believe this is one of their "secret" works - it's not even on SVN!
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: critor on October 23, 2011, 11:00:38 am
No we don't have any secret.

Ndless 3.0 does *not* exist at all for now, not even in an alpha version.


3.x OSes / Boot2 are full of watchdogs which will force the calculator into rebooting when something abnormal is detected for a certain period (when you manage to take control on the hardware over the OS for example).

Ndless 3.0 probably won't even be out this year, seeing how TI has protected the 3.x versions. You should better develop/use Lua programs, or move to Casio Prizm.



Sorry, but it will be useless for you to ask again for Ndless 3.0 tomorrow, next week, or even next month... The answer will probably be the same.

It's very hard and if you want it out sooner, you should join and help with its development if you are able to... There is no other way.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: alberthrocks on October 23, 2011, 11:47:48 am
No we don't have any secret.

Ndless 3.0 does *not* exist at all for now, not even in an alpha version.


3.x OSes / Boot2 are full of watchdogs which will force the calculator into rebooting when something abnormal is detected for a certain period (when you manage to take control on the hardware over the OS for example).

Ndless 3.0 probably won't even be out this year, seeing how TI has protected the 3.x versions. You should better develop/use Lua programs, or move to Casio Prizm.



Sorry, but it will be useless for you to ask again for Ndless 3.0 tomorrow, next week, or even next month... The answer will probably be the same.

It's very hard and if you want it out sooner, you should join and help with its development if you are able to... There is no other way.
Even though that is depressing to hear, it at least clarifies the situation you guys are in. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Levak on October 23, 2011, 01:46:09 pm
You should wait.
There is no Ndless 3.x yet.
There is no* way to downgrade a calc with an unpatched 3.x operating system.
There is only time.

Spoiler For *:
By this I mean simple way, I think I recall something about using the dock to downgrade it, but this requires extra equipment
An RS232 interface, actually.

Or even this cool thing, called an Arduino :
http://tiplanet.org/forum/gallery/image_page.php?image_id=186
(works under Linux)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Lionel Debroux on October 23, 2011, 01:54:10 pm
The Arduino is a cool device which has many usages besides a RS232-USB interface, e.g. a CALCnet bridge, but for the purposes of being an RS232-USB interface, it's more expensive than RS232-TTL-3V3, EVAL-RS232R or similar cables :D
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Levak on October 23, 2011, 02:04:50 pm
The Arduino is a cool device which has many usages besides a RS232-USB interface, e.g. a CALCnet bridge, but for the purposes of being an RS232-USB interface, it's more expensive than RS232-TTL-3V3, EVAL-RS232R or similar cables :D
I just wanted to say that it is more polivalent (more possible things) since there are, on omnimaga, many hackers.
Being able to flash and make cool things not totally related to the Nspire is really intersting for me, besides the price.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Lionel Debroux on October 23, 2011, 02:10:21 pm
You and me fully agree ;)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 23, 2011, 02:41:34 pm
Wait the arduino can also do it? Because a bunch of us probably have one by now, such as Juju, especially since last Winter when Global CALCnet came out. That could be a good alternative.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on October 23, 2011, 03:05:11 pm
I used the arduino for my led display connected to my nspire. Its really a great device :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: bsl on October 23, 2011, 03:06:05 pm
No we don't have any secret.

Ndless 3.0 does *not* exist at all for now, not even in an alpha version.


3.x OSes / Boot2 are full of watchdogs which will force the calculator into rebooting when something abnormal is detected for a certain period (when you manage to take control on the hardware over the OS for example).

Ndless 3.0 probably won't even be out this year, seeing how TI has protected the 3.x versions. You should better develop/use Lua programs, or move to Casio Prizm.



Sorry, but it will be useless for you to ask again for Ndless 3.0 tomorrow, next week, or even next month... The answer will probably be the same.

It's very hard and if you want it out sooner, you should join and help with its development if you are able to... There is no other way.
I was looking for a Fuzzing framework on the web for ARM based code so that I can look for my own bugs , but
could not find any - mostly x86 based. I may have to write my own framework for bug hunting
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: calc84maniac on October 23, 2011, 03:57:16 pm
No we don't have any secret.

Ndless 3.0 does *not* exist at all for now, not even in an alpha version.


3.x OSes / Boot2 are full of watchdogs which will force the calculator into rebooting when something abnormal is detected for a certain period (when you manage to take control on the hardware over the OS for example).

Ndless 3.0 probably won't even be out this year, seeing how TI has protected the 3.x versions. You should better develop/use Lua programs, or move to Casio Prizm.



Sorry, but it will be useless for you to ask again for Ndless 3.0 tomorrow, next week, or even next month... The answer will probably be the same.

It's very hard and if you want it out sooner, you should join and help with its development if you are able to... There is no other way.
We can't just disable the watchdog using this (http://hackspire.unsads.com/wiki/index.php/Memory-mapped_I/O_ports#90060000_-_Watchdog_timer)? Or does the watchdog kick in before we even gain control at all?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: alberthrocks on October 23, 2011, 08:33:52 pm
Just curious - are the CX and non-color Nspires' RSA keys the same or different?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Lionel Debroux on October 24, 2011, 01:15:52 am
* the CX have new RSA keys, and they're even longer: 2048 bits.
* Clickpad, Touchpad and lab cradle models use the same Blowfish key; the CX, CX CAS, CM, CM CAS use unique Blowfish keys per {model, OS version} tuple.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 25, 2011, 04:11:46 pm
I've got a question:
Does the 84+keypad for the nspire have any "anti gaming" stuff built in?  Can I still use apps like mirage os and omnicalc?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Lionel Debroux on October 26, 2011, 01:05:53 am
The keypad itself does not contain anti-gaming stuff, but TI's 84+SE emulator is slow and incomplete. A number of 84+ programs cannot work on it. I don't remember whether MirageOS and Omnicalc are among them, I'm no TI-Z80 expert.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: JosJuice on October 26, 2011, 01:33:43 am
The keypad itself does not contain anti-gaming stuff, but TI's 84+SE emulator is slow and incomplete. A number of 84+ programs cannot work on it. I don't remember whether MirageOS and Omnicalc are among them, I'm no TI-Z80 expert.
The normal version of MirageOS doesn't work because it uses undocumented instructions. I'm not sure if Omnicalc works, but it's known to have very bad compatibility with MathPrint OSes.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Adriweb on October 26, 2011, 05:26:18 am
Yeah, there is a fix for MirageOS and OmniCalc kinda works when disabling MathPrint
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 26, 2011, 04:16:17 pm
So is there a special version of Mirage that I should get?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Yeong on October 26, 2011, 04:36:55 pm
Mushmoom! I like your avatar!
even though I saw this in Korea long time ago :D
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 26, 2011, 04:50:49 pm
Thanks.  I found it on uncyclopedia.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 26, 2011, 04:54:18 pm
About MirageOS I do not remember where is located the patch to make it work. However DoorsCS will work perfectly. (Once you run it you can even run all your ASM programs from the program menu)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 26, 2011, 05:34:25 pm
Ok.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Yeong on October 26, 2011, 05:35:43 pm
Thanks.  I found it on uncyclopedia.
Korean Flash artists FTW (It's by some Korean)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 26, 2011, 07:06:12 pm
Yeah.  Who else has the time to make this totally epic pic?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 26, 2011, 07:12:01 pm
I don't know but when I first saw it a few years ago I was amazed.

back on topic, people waiting for Ndless 3.0 need to be patient. There is even a small possibility that Ndless 3.0 may never exist and that OS 3.0 and CX calcs end up being stuck with only Lua as programming language. It will all depend of if ExtendeD and others can figure something out. Texas Instruments really locked down their machines hardcore there...
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 26, 2011, 07:16:26 pm
All in favor of starting our own calculator company, say I! ;)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 26, 2011, 07:18:06 pm
TI's actions are why some people in the past started projects such as DreamCalc, UberGraphX and OTCalc, in attempt to offer a powerful calc for less than what TI charges for their calcs and with more freedom for programming. However such project is a major undertaking, which is why all of them usually die, and breaking TI's monopoly would be next to impossible.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Yeong on October 26, 2011, 07:20:45 pm
they all died? D:
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 26, 2011, 07:21:59 pm
Yeah, Ti called in Chuck Norris.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 26, 2011, 07:24:19 pm
Seems like the projects were discontunied. OTcalc didn't have progress for over a year, alberthrocks got too busy and graphmastur appears to have disappeared off the face of the earth. Same for Uberspire. Spyro is still around but no longer posting updates on Dreamcalc.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Scipi on October 26, 2011, 07:25:18 pm
I smell a conspiracy

Well. I wonder... What if someone starts a company, becomes successful and then use it as capital to release a better calc? Just food for thought. ;D
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 26, 2011, 07:27:35 pm
Back on topic:  Is there any way to COMPLETELY, and I mean COMPLETELY wipe and nspire's memory and then download an older OS?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Yeong on October 26, 2011, 07:29:04 pm
I think there's already a downgrader for nspire.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Spyro543 on October 26, 2011, 08:02:40 pm
TI's actions are why some people in the past started projects such as DreamCalc, UberGraphX and OTCalc, in attempt to offer a powerful calc for less than what TI charges for their calcs and with more freedom for programming. However such project is a major undertaking, which is why all of them usually die, and breaking TI's monopoly would be next to impossible.
I'm still working on it, I just have never posted about it (hellllloooo, topic, where do you goooo?) and btw I might change the name since there's already something called Dreamcalc.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on October 27, 2011, 02:57:03 am
Back on topic:  Is there any way to COMPLETELY, and I mean COMPLETELY wipe and nspire's memory and then download an older OS?

Yes, you can. But most likely you will need a rs232 level converter for that, in order too hook your nspire to your computer.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on October 27, 2011, 05:16:51 am
Back on topic:  Is there any way to COMPLETELY, and I mean COMPLETELY wipe and nspire's memory and then download an older OS?

Yes, you can. But most likely you will need a rs232 level converter for that, in order too hook your nspire to your computer.
Also for the cx?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Adriweb on October 27, 2011, 05:18:34 am
No, not for the CX, since TI blocked the ability to update stuff (OS) via rs232 on the CX (XMODEM)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Cuervo on October 27, 2011, 05:48:29 am
Quote from: adriweb
No, not for the CX, since TI blocked the ability to update stuff (OS) via rs232 on the CX (XMODEM)

Wait, I can not downgrade boot2 via rs232 on the CX (CAS)?..
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on October 27, 2011, 09:30:07 am
No, but there isn't any reason why you should, as there is no pre 3.0 os that will run on it.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 27, 2011, 05:37:39 pm
How come when I use certain programs with my 84+ keypad, the calculator resets?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: calc84maniac on October 27, 2011, 05:43:34 pm
How come when I use certain programs with my 84+ keypad, the calculator resets?

Because the emulator sucks. More specifically, it resets when it fetches an unrecognized instruction, and it doesn't recognize a lot of instructions which work on every Z80 processor but aren't officially documented by Zilog.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 27, 2011, 05:58:00 pm
Is there any way to program those instructions into it?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: JosJuice on October 28, 2011, 03:49:10 am
Is there any way to program those instructions into it?
No.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: calc84maniac on October 28, 2011, 09:30:30 am
We could try making a competent emulator using Ndless, though.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on October 28, 2011, 04:38:34 pm
Wouldn't they have to come out with Ndless 3.0 first?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: JosJuice on October 29, 2011, 03:55:50 am
Wouldn't they have to come out with Ndless 3.0 first?
If you want to run it on OS 3.0, then yes.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 01, 2011, 08:42:25 pm
TI's actions are why some people in the past started projects such as DreamCalc, UberGraphX and OTCalc, in attempt to offer a powerful calc for less than what TI charges for their calcs and with more freedom for programming. However such project is a major undertaking, which is why all of them usually die, and breaking TI's monopoly would be next to impossible.
I'm still working on it, I just have never posted about it (hellllloooo, topic, where do you goooo?) and btw I might change the name since there's already something called Dreamcalc.
I'm betting the search engine of the site (if searching from the board index) could probably find it. :P
We could try making a competent emulator using Ndless, though.
Didn't you make one? :P (I even have the copy. It didn't work with Garbage COllecting and 2nd+ON tho :P)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: AzNg0d1030 on November 01, 2011, 09:00:17 pm
A TI Nspire CX CAS emulator would be beasttttt  :crazy:
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 01, 2011, 09:06:53 pm
I think he meant a TI-84 Plus SE emulator for the Nspire CX Cas (and of course OS 3.0). I bet in the future it might be possible to put the CAS CX OS on a regular CX, though, although explaining how to do so on the forums would be against the rules since it's illegal.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on November 02, 2011, 04:47:07 am
That's why we got Ti-Planet :p :p
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Adriweb on November 02, 2011, 05:56:17 am
I think he meant a TI-84 Plus SE emulator for the Nspire CX Cas (and of course OS 3.0). I bet in the future it might be possible to put the CAS CX OS on a regular CX, though, although explaining how to do so on the forums would be against the rules since it's illegal.
That's why we got Ti-Planet :p :p

We would accounce the news but probably not make a tutorial about how to do it, it is indeed illegal and both dangerous for the TI and the community.

Here's a quick explanation for everybody :

The TI-Nspire product line relies heavily on the institutions that gives the exam acceptance agreement, and if more and more website were to disclose info on how to transform your non-CAS calc into a CAS one, this would negatively affect the institutions, which could very potentially say that the Nspire can't be allowed anymore (cas AND non-cas).
Of course, there wouldn't probably be a point anymore for TI to commercialize the Nspire since it'd become kinda useless for most of its users (high school students etc.). And then guess what ? No more TI-Nspire community.
Frightening, eh?


Hoping I'm clear enough to be understood since hacking is Nspire is awesome but we have to know that about certain points like nCas -> CAS, we all have to be careful, for the sake of both TI and the community behind it.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: JosJuice on November 02, 2011, 06:48:56 am
I don't believe that it would be illegal in any way, but I agree with the other things you said.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on November 02, 2011, 07:44:33 am
Yup, all very true :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Adriweb on November 02, 2011, 07:58:22 am
Messing with our own machine is not illegal since we bought it, own it.

I think that what would be illegal (or close to illegal, "borderline") is a detailed instructions manual on how to do it.

It's obiviously not the same, but it could be like a "how to build a nuclear weapon" or something. By itself, it can be chemistry for example, but the consequences can be dangerous.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: JosJuice on November 02, 2011, 08:03:11 am
Messing with our own machine is not illegal since we bought it, own it.

I think that what would be illegal (or close to illegal, "borderline") is a detailed instructions manual on how to do it.

It's obiviously not the same, but it could be like a "how to build a nuclear weapon" or something. By itself, it can be chemistry for example, but the consequences can be dangerous.
Telling someone how to build a nuclear weapon is illegal since using a nuclear weapon is illegal. Since it's legal to install other software than the default software, telling others how to do so is also legal (as long as the software that's you're replacing the OS with is obtained legally, and in this case, it is, since you can download it from TI's website).
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Adriweb on November 02, 2011, 08:06:54 am
Ok :-)

We can only hope TI agree with all that, but that won't be the case soon I guess...

But for now, we're basically talking for nothing since Ndl3ss isn't out nor ready to be released, and OSLauncher will probably need some rewriting, if it's ever re-done.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on November 02, 2011, 08:15:30 am
Well, we could start a nerd protest and boycott ti's calculators...
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on November 02, 2011, 09:04:00 am
Why would you do that?
I like their calculators, and as far as I see it the reason why they try to block is because of what Adriweb said in his post.
They are just trying to avoid an apocalypse :p

(The content of this post is my view, what I think :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on November 02, 2011, 04:41:32 pm
Well, for starters, they need to make better quality calculators. (upgrade 83/84 screen and memory)

[xkcd=]http://xkcd.com/768/[/xkcd]
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on November 02, 2011, 04:46:35 pm
What about the CX ^^
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Adriweb on November 02, 2011, 04:49:06 pm
they made a better screen powered calculator : Nspire (and more recently the Npsire CX)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on November 02, 2011, 06:52:16 pm
Yeah, but those are a lot more expensive than, say, a ti83+ which is what most people I know got as their first calculator.  In addition to that, the interface on the 83/84 series is, in my opinion, a lot friendlier.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on November 10, 2011, 07:33:54 pm
Great news: Ndless 3.1 has been born!!!  However, it's not actually "out" yet.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: guy6020665 on November 10, 2011, 09:02:27 pm
Mushmoom, please watch the double posts. You can edit previous posts by clicking modify.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Levak on November 11, 2011, 08:10:06 am
Great news: Ndless 3.1 has been born!!!  However, it's not actually "out" yet.

Hm ?
Is is related to the "preview" ? or is it an extra information ?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 11, 2011, 12:35:59 pm
Mushmoom, please watch the double posts. You can edit previous posts by clicking modify.
that was a two day difference so that wasnt a double post
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: BrownyTCat on November 11, 2011, 01:05:20 pm
Great news: Ndless 3.1 has been born!!!  However, it's not actually "out" yet.
Where did you hear this glorious news?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: guy6020665 on November 11, 2011, 06:40:35 pm
Mushmoom, please watch the double posts. You can edit previous posts by clicking modify.
that was a two day difference so that wasnt a double post

He double posted on the previous page.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 11, 2011, 08:49:46 pm
Great news: Ndless 3.1 has been born!!!  However, it's not actually "out" yet.
Where did you hear this glorious news?
In the news on the front page, but yeah it's still being fixed so it doesn't cause any damage and is stable. It's a proof of concept, though, showing that it's possible.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on November 11, 2011, 09:03:10 pm
WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING AT ME FOR DOUBLE POSTING?  WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 11, 2011, 09:04:36 pm
WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING AT ME FOR DOUBLE POSTING?  WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO?

Calm down. Double-posting is simply against most forum rules. I rated down your post because it's rude. Beware of the nDoom policy, please.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on November 11, 2011, 09:47:01 pm
Sorry, I was just kidding.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 11, 2011, 09:49:33 pm
Ok. It's best to be careful because in some cases (especially on Omni where several members do not speak English as native language) stuff can be misinterpreted.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Levak on November 12, 2011, 07:14:32 am
Great news: Ndless 3.1 has been born!!!  However, it's not actually "out" yet.

Hm ?
Is is related to the "preview" ? or is it an extra information ?

this ^
So ? fake or misunderstanding ?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on November 12, 2011, 07:35:16 am
In the news on the front page, but yeah it's still being fixed so it doesn't cause any damage and is stable. It's a proof of concept, though, showing that it's possible.
mushmoom is talking about ndless "3.1", while the front page states ndless "3.0". I guess he is mixing OS versions with ndless versions :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Lionel Debroux on November 12, 2011, 08:19:57 am
Yup, that could be.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Hayleia on November 12, 2011, 08:45:13 am
Mushmoom, please watch the double posts. You can edit previous posts by clicking modify.
Why was this post downrated since mushmoom triple posted before merging the two first ones ?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: mushmoom on November 12, 2011, 09:11:59 am
Actually, there was an 8 day difference between the second and third posts.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: guy6020665 on November 12, 2011, 07:10:00 pm
Oh oops my bad. I only looked at the time difference. Sorry, I should have looked more carefully.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: njaddison on December 22, 2011, 03:51:16 pm
Mirage os 1.1 works on the ti-84 keypad, guys! I have a boat load of 84+ mirage os games on my 84+ keypad, including mario, cuberunner 1.1, wolfenstein83, mario shotgun, blockdude84.
here is the download link:
http://www.angelfire.com/md/kaivan84/images/mirageos.zip (http://www.angelfire.com/md/kaivan84/images/mirageos.zip)
Just use tilp or ti-connect to put it on the calc.
This is a way to play awesome games until ndless 3.0 is released.

Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: cyanophycean314 on December 22, 2011, 06:18:52 pm
Isn't this a little unrelated? Additionally, some people (including me) have Nspire CXs so we can't play on the 84.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: epic7 on December 22, 2011, 06:19:38 pm
Anyways, any expected approximate release date for nspire 3 for teh CX?
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: annoyingcalc on December 22, 2011, 06:34:38 pm
When ExtendeD feels like it should
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Jim Bauwens on December 23, 2011, 01:48:03 am
Like mentioned before, it will be released when its ready ;)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: Adriweb on December 23, 2011, 04:57:46 am
Yeah, there still are some weird bugs and strange behaviors that need to be fixed before release :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
Post by: ExtendeD on December 23, 2011, 09:39:14 am
Incidentally I'm not syncing the release with this one (http://pod2g-ios.blogspot.com/) intentionally :)