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Calculator Community => TI Calculators => General Calculator Help => Topic started by: LightningZI on February 22, 2011, 07:32:29 pm

Title: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: LightningZI on February 22, 2011, 07:32:29 pm
Alright so my new Ti-Nspire CAS Touchpad came in the mail today, and After testing it out for a bit I thought of getting Ndless to get some Games on it and whatnot  ;) . But I'm totally confused as to how I'd approach this.

I read several different topics, But I think since I just recently got this, The version is unchangeable or something? I've got no idea. If anyone could explain how I'd go on installing Ndless and gbc4nspire, or if it's even possible for the calculator I have, It'd be very much appreciated.

Thanks

Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: apcalc on February 22, 2011, 07:37:26 pm
Hi!  Welcome to Omnimaga! :)

At this point, the only way to get Ndless working on your calculator is to use the developer version of Ndless, Ndless 2.0.  At the current point, binaries of Ndless 2.0 cannot be distributed; the only way to get it working is to build it yourself.  In order to do this, you must download the Ndless source code here  (https://www.unsads.com/scm/svn/nsptools/Ndless/trunk/)(password:  guest/guest) and set up an Nspire Development Environment to compile the code (Information on how you can set up a development environment can be found here (http://hackspire.unsads.com/wiki/index.php/C_and_assembly_development_introduction), follow the instructions in doc/Ndless-Development to build Ndless).

Good luck! :)
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: LightningZI on February 22, 2011, 07:43:57 pm
Thanks, and Thanks again for the fast reply. For this, I wouldn't need to downgrade my calc's OS, and All i would need to do after compiling Ndless would be putting that on the calc, and following regular procedure to install gbc4nspire right?
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: apcalc on February 22, 2011, 07:45:35 pm
Thanks, and Thanks again for the fast reply. For this, I wouldn't need to downgrade my calc's OS, and All i would need to do after compiling Ndless would be putting that on the calc, and following regular procedure to install gbc4nspire right?

Yes, but since you have the touchpad, you will need a specific version of gbc4nspire made to work on the touchpad.  Here it is:  http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=topicattach;topic=1243
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: LightningZI on February 22, 2011, 07:47:43 pm
Alright, and how long do you think setting up Ndless would take? 10-15 minutes or more? Because I have to finish up a few things for classes and I want to see if i can get this done by tonight too.
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: apcalc on February 22, 2011, 07:50:04 pm
Alright, and how long do you think setting up Ndless would take? 10-15 minutes or more? Because I have to finish up a few things for classes and I want to see if i can get this done by tonight too.

I'll be honest:  setting up an Ndless Development Environment and compiling Ndless (especially if you are not familiar with the process) can be a very tedious task.  Unless you are very experienced with computers/building files, it will take you more than 10-15 minutes to do this (it will probably take longer than that just to download/install all of the programs you need just to build Ndless, let alone getting it to work.)

If you run into any problems, feel free to post here for help! :)
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: LightningZI on February 22, 2011, 08:50:53 pm
Ran into my first problem already, Does anyone know why it says that MinGW is a trojan? I've got no idea why BitDefender Detects it. Not sure if I should download it.. Anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: ruler501 on February 22, 2011, 09:12:52 pm
MinGW is a fine download when I got it. where are you getting it from?
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: LightningZI on February 22, 2011, 09:28:18 pm
From sourceforge I think it was, Also is it wrong on these forums to ask someone for their Ndless 2.0 fully compiled? Cause i feel like that'd be easier >.>
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: ruler501 on February 22, 2011, 09:30:16 pm
I think they prefer if you make it yourself but i was given a compiled version so I'm sure it is fine. I would try one more time at making it before you decide to just ask for the compiled version.
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: LightningZI on February 22, 2011, 09:31:52 pm
Alright, I'm gonna give it a go with this, I'll see if it works in the next few hours or so and post if I need anything. Thanks a lot Ruler.
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: ruler501 on February 22, 2011, 09:33:23 pm
I'll be glad to help if you need it. I was helped out a lot when I first got here, and am still being helped. this is a great community for helping each other out and getting help in.
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 22, 2011, 09:49:17 pm
There is an installer for mingw now, which allows you to choose which modules you want and it downloads them from the internet.
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: LightningZI on February 22, 2011, 11:04:32 pm
Alright, So I got as far as making the C enviroment, Now i'm really confused, The guide says to make the Toolchain which is mentioned in the ReadMe.txt, When there is no mention of a toolchain at all, What do I do O_O
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 23, 2011, 03:45:15 pm
You need to go to the ndless directory and run make there, it builds some tools necessary for building ndless programs.
Title: Re: Need help with Ndless Installation and gbc4nspire
Post by: apcalc on February 23, 2011, 04:05:21 pm
Alright, So I got as far as making the C enviroment, Now i'm really confused, The guide says to make the Toolchain which is mentioned in the ReadMe.txt, When there is no mention of a toolchain at all, What do I do O_O

From the Ndless root in MSYS, run the command:

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cd tools;make

Then, add the created /bin directory in the Ndless root to your path variable, then, you can successfully run "make" from the Ndless root directory.