Omnimaga
Calculator Community => TI Calculators => General Calculator Help => Topic started by: Snispire on August 14, 2010, 02:42:33 pm
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I am the proud new owner of a TI-Nspire (Clickpad, non-CAS). It's the first graphing calculator I've owned, although I've cut my teeth on the TI-83/84 line of calcs and am pretty accustomed to using them.
I have read the announcement frowning upon discussion of the distribution of Nspire firmware, say, v.1.1, and I don't want to break any rules. But, if anyone, whom, keeping Omnimaga and similar sites completely out of the picture, wanted to email me a file or two, I would be very grateful as I am out of places to look. If you know of a place, I would be very grateful for that email as well.
Thanks in advance and I am sorry if this violates any rules (which I hope it doesn't).
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Well, I've noticed in the past (I'm celebrating my comeback q: ) that file-sharing isn't really appreciated here.
I can't help you with this anyways, since I'm 84+ only kinda-person.
Welcome to the forums by the way!
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Thanks! I understand that file-sharing isn't wanted.
That's why I requested that the exchange of pleasantries occur via email. That way, the fact that the participants were Omnomers would be completely ancillary.
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If you want files, you are going to have to find someone who has those files and is willing to share them. Keep in mind that sharing of those files is illegal (according to TI) and it could put you into some legal trouble if you get caught.
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Everyone who wants to install Ndless is seemingly able to find the OS, v1.1, and this leads me to believe that there are places where it is available of which I am not aware. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction (NOT over this forum, of course) and there is nothing particularly felonious about sharing the name of a website. I just want to install Ndless, and nearly all the members here who own an Nspire installed it somehow.
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Sorry, but none of the members of the forums can give you this OS. Also, we don't provide links because another TI website, TI-Bank, recieved a DMCA for hosting this OS. Although a link would not technically be hosting it, we do not want to get into any trouble with TI.
There are places out there where you can get this OS. The only help I will give you is that the full version number is 1.1.9253 for NON CAS. Google is your friend. ;)
Good luck! :)
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Thanks...I've already tried googling the full version number...any other (totally benign, of course) advice you can give?
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The only other hint I will give you is look though a famous Nspire thread on United TI (sorry if you looked earlier, I said TI-Bank by accident).
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If you want files, you are going to have to find someone who has those files and is willing to share them. Keep in mind that sharing of those files is illegal (according to TI) and it could put you into some legal trouble if you get caught.
As well as the person who shared them.
That said, welcome here Snispire and sorry for the very long registration process. This normally never happens, but the proxy you are using is blacklisted on SFS website due to spambots, so when you signed up, it automatically locked down your forum account. I manually approved it earlier, as your nickname looked very close to "Nspire", thus, legit.
Good luck finding a copy of TI-Nspire OS 1.1. I hope at one point, Ndless comes out for OS 1.7 and 2.0. I am surprised it's not available on torrent sites, though. Everytime I check it matches 0 results. Maybe trackers are blocked in Canada, though.
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So, did you finally manage to get a copy?
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Welcome to Omnimaga. :D [/legalities]
Yes. If you must pirate, sail the seas that are Google.
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Yes, I managed to procure a copy. Thanks to everyone who emailed me (you know who you are).
I was wondering about the power management bug present in this iteration of the OS as I heard Calc84 made a patch. Anyone know where I could find it/how to install it?
That said, welcome here Snispire and sorry for the very long registration process. This normally never happens, but the proxy you are using is blacklisted on SFS website due to spambots, so when you signed up, it automatically locked down your forum account.
I'm not using a proxy. I'm using Netscape (AOL).
Aside from that, don't worry about it, DJ. It was no big deal.
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Glad to hear you found it!
calc84 did not actually make a patch for it, he made a program that resets the calculator, thus making the screen turn on. To use it, you have to make sure you have the document selected as you turn it off (basically, leave it so pressing enter would activate this document). Then, press on and then enter to reset the calculator. If you forget to select this document before turning it off, you can navigate to it without the screen on. I would suggest placing it in a folder named "a". Then if you forget to select it you can hit on, home, 6, up a few times to get to the top, left to close the folder if it is open, right to open the folder, and enter to select the document. It is attached. Good luck!
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Thanks, AP!
Anyone have any recommendations, a la cool apps I now have the wherewithal to use? (Aside from the Game Boy Color emulator.)
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Actually, there is not too much available for the Nspire now (aside from gbc4nspire).
ticalc.org only has 2 nspire games, excluding gbc4nspire. A snake game and Block Dude (by myself ;)).
Also, you should definately check out bwang's Nspire Picture Viewer (for .bmp images) and his Raycaster.
There are not too many programs available for the Nspire now, mainly because Ndless is still very new and there are not too many Nspire developers yet. I am sure that the amount of programs available will pick up greatly in the next few years. There are a few games in development now that should be out within the next few months.
If you need any gameboy roms, just look around the internet, they are not hard to find (much easier that OS 1.1 ;)).
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Yes, I managed to procure a copy. Thanks to everyone who emailed me (you know who you are).
I was wondering about the power management bug present in this iteration of the OS as I heard Calc84 made a patch. Anyone know where I could find it/how to install it?
That said, welcome here Snispire and sorry for the very long registration process. This normally never happens, but the proxy you are using is blacklisted on SFS website due to spambots, so when you signed up, it automatically locked down your forum account.
I'm not using a proxy. I'm using Netscape (AOL).
Aside from that, don't worry about it, DJ. It was no big deal.
Aah ok, because your hostname has the word "proxy" in it. I guess maybe AOL does that
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Lol, DJ the site blacklisted AOL?
Everybody knew they were evil. >:( But I didn't know they were THAT evil!
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My guess is that AOL was used a lot to host spambots or a lot of 8 years old kids who use it probably spammed sites or trolled them to death. AOL'ers used to have a very bad reputation on the Internet, because of that.
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Err...In China we share OS1.1 on the Internet and it seems that TI isn't care about it in China?
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Nope, it's not that, they dont like us using ndless, because they turned into anti-asm tards :/
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welcome all. that are new.
Boy, this site is growing.
I suggest you play pokemon gold as it is a great game (for gbc4nspire)
pokemon pinball fails to work though
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welcome all. that are new.
Boy, this site is growing.
I suggest you play pokemon gold as it is a great game (for gbc4nspire)
pokemon pinball fails to work though
But Pokemon Crystal is better than Gold...
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welcome all. that are new.
Boy, this site is growing.
I suggest you play pokemon gold as it is a great game (for gbc4nspire)
pokemon pinball fails to work though
But Pokemon Crystal is better than Gold...
hummmmm...... not so sure about that... >:D
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Err...In China we share OS1.1 on the Internet and it seems that TI isn't care about it in China?
I guess TI just have no control on China's internet activities. That makes you kinda lucky on that >:D
I think it's similar in Russia too. Hence why most warez softwares and music sites are located on russian servers.
But yeah the main reason why they want OS 1.1 unavailable is so people cannot install Ndless.
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The dev scene as far as the Nspire is concerned is very active, but, compared to the incredible amount of Apps available for the 83+/84+ series, hasn't developed anywhere near as much, especially when you consider that the Nspire's stats are so much more impressive than those of a ten-year-old calculator. I guess that will change, given enough time.
Speaking of apps for the 83/84, how is TI-Boy coming along?
I ask, because a) I don't want to start a new thread about it and b) I am currently under the impression that it is dead.
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I don't think TI-Boy is dead. I remember calc84 talking about updates he was makeing to it a few weeks back. Also, this was backuped on calc84's flash drive, so it was not lost when his computer crashed.
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I don't think TI-Boy is dead. I remember calc84 talking about updates he was makeing to it a few weeks back. Also, this was backuped on calc84's flash drive, so it was not lost when his computer crashed.
thank god it wasn't lost
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thank god it wasn't lost
Hear, hear.
To me, that's one of the most amazing projects being worked on in the TI dev-scene as of late.
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too bad it only works on older calcs though...
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That is a shame. That's still a TON of calculators, however.
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ya...
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Yeah true.
That said I noticed a lot more programs that are great coming out lately. Back in late 2007 until mid 2009, there was practically nothing getting featured on ticalc.org anymore. It reminded me the end of 2001 until late 2002. Good to see things are picking up again.
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It is absolutely appalling that TI is doing everything in its power to keep real third-party development from taking place for the Nspire line, especially considering that all the communities like the one at Omnom have ever done as far as the company's bottom line is concerned is move more of their calculators.
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Honestly, I can't blame them for trying to block ASM/C programs. They are being pressured by the education market to block these programs. Their decisions are greatly based on the opinions of teachers. :(
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You mean Omnomnimaga...er Omnomnomni...er... Nomnimaga...er OMNIMAGA? :p
The only thing they do is making calcs less attractive to students. A lot of them use them for maths, but they like to use them for games and other stuff too, besides classes. Otherwise, I doubt they really find paying $100 for the thing justified. I hope if TI wins the Nspire war that they'll still sell 84+ and 89 calcs, though.
EDIT: Apcalc it seems like you approve their decision the way you are talking x.x
Personally, if it's really the case, why didn't they start in 1994 when Zshell came out?
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i do agree with apcalc in why they do it, but it still doesn't make it right...
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I thought that Omnom was an acceptable shorthand form of Omnimaga.
Sorry if I commited any sort of heresy. :)
I don't know of any students who bring their calculators out at inoppurtune times at all, especially not just to play a game. I don't think that that's happening very often. I think that kids just take them out at times when there's nothing else to do during the day--otherwise, teachers just tell them to put it away. It's easy to discern between using a calculator for calculations and playing a game.
Still, it's not surprising that teachers are bitching about "extracurricular" calculatorial capabilities--teachers are a stuffy lot.
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yep, the damn schools ruined it for us, of course, perhaps TI wants us to break it, so that they cant be blamed when there is asm on it >.>
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True!!! maybe they are for us all along.
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So long as their hands are clean, TI seems to have a semi-nonchalant attitude concerning development for most of their line. I think it's because they know they stand to benefit from it.
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Well, they've certainly been actively blocking ndless.
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eh, mabey they want to look like they are, perhaps there are some holes left in there on purpose >.>
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You're suggesting something like Send(9 on the 83?
It would be rather difficult to find on the Nspire, since the OS is so large. x.x
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calcdude, that is exactly what I am saying ;D
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Right now, the way Ndless works reminds me a bit the way we ran ASM on our TI-73, 82, 85 or 92. We would send an hacked backup file to our calc, which would install a shell. With the 83, there was an ASM command, but no token was assigned to it, so you had to do Send(9 instead of Asm(.
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But Ndless is so much more exciting than Assembly on the older models. The Nspire has so much more potential than they did.
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Yeah, it's pathetic what TI did. Of course, maybe they wanted to prevent some very advanced softwares to be ran at school, but still, they could have done an effort and tried to add some protections, like the TI-84+ PTT mode, and let other people run what they want on their machine in peace.
Back in 2008, I kept hearing about poor sales for the Nspire and prices dropping. You know, I am fairly sure word to mouth was there for something. Students saw no game could be ran on the Nspire and got recommended the 84+ instead. I personally would never have bought a TI calc if games were impossible on them. I would have borrowed the ones in math classes. To me, spending $139.99 plus taxes on a calculator just for some math classes, a calc I would need 2 years, was not justified.