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Calculator Community => TI Calculators => General Calculator Help => Topic started by: willrandship on August 11, 2010, 11:02:02 pm

Title: Strange Tilp problems
Post by: willrandship on August 11, 2010, 11:02:02 pm: For some reason, tilp isn't letting me send any files to my nspire (specifically, nleash) but it let me upgrade my OS earlier today. The File display area doesn't show any of my folders, and when I try to send a file, it says folder not found. I also can't send anything from the calc, since it's not showing anything.

84+ mode works fine (well, as fine as crashing on half of all the asm stuff I find can get) :P

Any help?
Title: Re: Strange Tilp problems
Post by: Lionel Debroux on August 12, 2010, 04:37:06 am: Well, the usual questions first: what version of TILP are you using, and which OS flavour ? ;)

But anyway, that sounds like a known problem, assuming you have triggered the folder list update through the GUI. It seems that TI has changed things in the linking protocol behaviour of Nspire >= 1.7 OS versions, and neither TILP (libticalcs, mostly) nor Nspire8x (AFAICT) have been adjusted yet.
I have sniffed USB raw dumps from TINCLS, with the same tools as Romain used in the past (possibly a newer version of the same program), but I haven't gotten to interpreting them yet.
Title: Re: Strange Tilp problems
Post by: willrandship on August 12, 2010, 02:31:59 pm: Darn. Does that mean I have to use the windows software? :'(

Nspire os 2.1 (hence nleash), Tilp2 v 1.13, Linux Mint 9 (ubuntu 10.04 base)

Hey, maybe that's why they locked it to 1.7 or above with nleash! They probably hate tilp as much as ndless.
Title: Re: Strange Tilp problems
Post by: Lionel Debroux on August 13, 2010, 11:31:08 am: Quote
Does that mean I have to use the windows software? :'(
If you don't want to compile TILP yourself using the easy script I made available at http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/download/install_tilp.sh , yes, you have to use TINCLS.

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Tilp2 v 1.13
That's part of the problem. In TILP II 1.13 (and presumably several older versions), Nspire support didn't work at all. I unbroke it before releasing 1.14.
But anyway, 1.14 does not work at all with Nspire OS 2.x, because TI changed the USB endpoints: for years, every TI calculators-related linking device (SilverLink, 84+ DirectLink, 89T DirectLink, Nspire OS 1.x, Nspire CAS OS 1.x) used the 0x81/0x02 pair... but TI wisely changed that to the 0x81/0x01 pair in Nspire (CAS) OS 2.x...

If you want to use your Nspire under Linux, uninstall your distro's packages for libti* + TILP, and use the script linked to above to compile libti* + GFM + TILP. As mentioned in the download page on the TILP site ( http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/linux.html ),
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Be sure to look inside it: you can find information on the packages you need for a successful compilation, and modify the path for the checkout and the $PREFIX where the binaries are installed.
The script has been reported to work on Ubuntu 10.04.
Title: Re: Strange Tilp problems
Post by: willrandship on August 13, 2010, 07:54:08 pm: tilp2 1.13 worked fine back when I had 1.4 on my calc. Now that I have 1.1, it's working again. I don't know what you mean, by 1.13 being broken. The OS 2.0 and up seems to be my only issue.

Not arguing, just saying what I'm experiencing.

Here, have a screenshot!

Spoiler For Spoiler:
(http://i38.tinypic.com/nfqjqe.png)
Title: Re: Strange Tilp problems
Post by: Lionel Debroux on August 14, 2010, 11:06:30 am: Well, it's all good if TILP II 1.13 worked for you for communicating with your Nspire :)
For me, it was unusable, under all OS 1.x versions, until I forced a reset sequence before each operation, which slows down a lot on OS 1.1-1.3, but makes communication reliable.