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TiLP Installation Problem
« on: February 17, 2011, 12:47:58 am »
I have been using Ti-Connect for a while and noticed it has many problems.
I would change to TiLP, but I am having many problems installing it. 

Windows 7 Home Premium
64 bit
4 GB Ram
2.4 GHz Processor speed
AVG 9.0 (Paid) antivirus

First of all, I encounter an error with my antivirus. 
It says that dhasetup.exe is a trojan horse.  The first time, I blocked it but I allowed it on my second installation.

Then I can't figure out how to install GTK+.  I selected the option to install it, but it always says libatk-1.0-0.dll is missing.

Finally, I tried installing GTK+ on my computer, but I can't figure our how and where to install it to: The readme says "You are
expected to know what to do with it, more or less."

Everyone seems to be having an easy time installing it, but I couldn't even install it on my Vista.  What am I doing wrong?
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Re: TiLP Installation Problem
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 02:28:39 am »
I have a folder of the neseccary dlls, but I've been told it's not exactly a good way to do it...
It works fine for me tho ;D
Would it be legal to post the folder, or is there copyright stuff/whatever in there?

And why is it supposedly bad to do it this way?  I've yet to run into any problems...

EDIT yes, that's version 1.13, 1.14 doesn't work well for some reason :P and the librarian freaked out when he saw the command prompt.
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Re: TiLP Installation Problem
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 02:40:41 am »
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It says that dhasetup.exe is a trojan horse.
Your anti-virus is silly (like most no-fee or paid AVs, anyway) :D

Try installing http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gladewin32/gtk-2.12.9-win32-2.exe . That's what the TILP installer attempts to do. This is an older
version, we'll switch to a newer version at some point.

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And why is it supposedly bad to do it this way?  I've yet to run into any problems...
Simply put, the Windows DLL cache is silly. It caches by file basename instead of caching by full path. Result: it can dynamically link another program, upon its launch, against an incompatible version of GTK+ (or Qt, or any other similar library), which can cause all kinds of trouble (although it usually ends up just not starting because of some missing DLL entry point).

It's good for you if you are not running into problems, but bundling GTK+ DLLs with programs (either through maintainer action or through misguided user action) is the leading source of spurious support requests to the maintainers of those programs, or to the maintainers of other GTK+-using programs. And everyone is unhappy, both maintainers because they lose time trying to fix non-problems or repeat what's in the README ("don't do that !"), and users because 1) a program works on and off (since it depends on other programs being executed at the same time, and the order in which the programs are started) and 2) they get told to read the README and do what's written in there.


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EDIT yes, that's version 1.13, 1.14 doesn't work well for some reason :P
It's precisely usually the exact opposite. TILP II 1.13 doesn't work at all for most users (DLL version problem), while TILP II 1.14 is clean. I think that your setup is really messed up ;)
Darl181, I won't bother you as long as your setup works for you. But if something breaks, you'll have to straighten up your installation ;)
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Re: TiLP Installation Problem
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 02:52:42 am »
Btw this should probably go in Calc help and support, since it isn't really project update-related.
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Re: TiLP Installation Problem
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 10:16:03 pm »
@DJ_O
Sorry, I'm a N00B. :P
How do can this topic be moved?

Thank you everyone for the help.  
Darl181, I try my best not to run cmd on a public computer because people tend to freak out.

Edit: Thanks for the library installer.  It solved my problem.  My firewall probably blocked the installer from accessing the internet.  Thanks.
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Re: TiLP Installation Problem
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2011, 02:31:10 am »
No problem, that can happen to anyone. A staff will probably move it in the right section.