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Calculator Community => TI Calculators => General Calculator Help => Topic started by: matthias1992 on August 02, 2010, 07:45:00 pm

Title: Which Nspire?
Post by: matthias1992 on August 02, 2010, 07:45:00 pm
I have been tinkering quite a while now about getting a Nspire. Seeing all the amazing stuff Ndless can do with it plus it being programmable in C makes me feel I have to. However since using Ndless on this thing will be my main use what is the best Nspire I can get(not neccesarily the fastest)?

Nspire Clickpad (blue)
Nspire CAS Clickpad (light-grey)
Nspire Touchpad (dark-blue)
Nspire CAS Touchpad (black)

I seem to recall the CAS versions were not compatible with Ndless? Or is my memory playing tricks on me?

Thanks for the advice in advance! Remember I WON'T be using it for math purposes just for development and gaming (how seriously can you take gaming?)

P.s abot gaming, gaming I really mean GAMING, like a game...

Darn I just lost

but,

so did you.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: apcalc on August 02, 2010, 07:46:57 pm
If you don't care about math features, definately get the light blue Nspire (NON CAS) clickpad.

EDIT:  Ndless is compatible with the CAS model, but you are still better off with the non CAS clickpad because you always have the option to upgrade to the touchpad for an extra $10 and you get the 84+ keypad.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: matthias1992 on August 02, 2010, 07:48:08 pm
Ok thanks!
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: bwang on August 02, 2010, 07:49:52 pm
Yes, definitely get the NON CAS Clickpad.
I just lost, too :(
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: Hot_Dog on August 02, 2010, 08:21:34 pm
Btw, if you want both CAS and gaming, the TI-89 Titanium is probably your best bet.  The games they made for it absolutely rock
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: Silver Shadow on August 03, 2010, 03:06:20 am
^^ Since he doesn't need CAS, and a Nspire has a better CPU, I don't think that he'll take a TI-89.

Yeah, definitively go for the Clickpad non-CAS version, it's cheaper and you get a 84+ keypad.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 03, 2010, 03:36:12 am
If you absolutely want to play games soon, that are not emulated Gameboy Color games, I would go with the 89 Titanium, but otherwise, go with the regular TI-Nspire and make sure you have a click pad keypad and that the 84+ one is also included.

Keep in mind that the 68k scene has dwindled a lot, though, so not a lot of new stuff is coming out anymore. The Nspire seems to have a brighter future, providing the community continues fighting for ASM/C availability
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: matthias1992 on August 03, 2010, 07:50:31 am
Many thanks all. I have ordered mine now. However until it arrives I want to get to know the device trhough this emulator, but since its in french I don't really understand what to do.... :(

could anybody very roughly translate? I have tried google translate but that gives garbage...

the description of this video:
http://vimeo.com/11711776
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: Hot_Dog on August 03, 2010, 10:10:22 am
It's ironic...true, it's time for Texas Instruments to lower its prices, but thanks to the awesome TI community, it's 100 times cheaper to buy a TI-89 w/games than to buy a Game Boy w/games.  And the games for the TI-89 are better ;D
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: fb39ca4 on August 03, 2010, 12:15:41 pm
I would recommend a clickpad, I just can't imagine using that touchpad as a d-pad in games.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on August 03, 2010, 01:09:37 pm
Like the others, I'd say Clickpad non-CAS, since you explicitly wrote that you're into gaming but not into math.
With the Clickpad non-CAS, you get the 84+ keypad as a bonus, which, besides the 84+ mode, could prove useful with, say, a 89(T) emulator (89/89T and most of the recent TI-Z80 family models have the same layout).
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: Hot_Dog on August 03, 2010, 02:11:56 pm
Like the others, I'd say Clickpad non-CAS, since you explicitly wrote that you're into gaming but not into math.
With the Clickpad non-CAS, you get the 84+ keypad as a bonus, which, besides the 84+ mode, could prove useful with, say, a 89(T) emulator (89/89T and most of the recent TI-Z80 family models have the same layout).

So true.  Unfortunately, there are some Ti-83/84+ games that won't work because TI got lazy and forgot to emulate certain Z80 features.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: fb39ca4 on August 03, 2010, 02:49:37 pm
Like the others, I'd say Clickpad non-CAS, since you explicitly wrote that you're into gaming but not into math.
With the Clickpad non-CAS, you get the 84+ keypad as a bonus, which, besides the 84+ mode, could prove useful with, say, a 89(T) emulator (89/89T and most of the recent TI-Z80 family models have the same layout).

If you're talking about the general pattern of keys, that is true, though the 89 keyboard has different labels on keys.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: Hot_Dog on August 03, 2010, 03:40:42 pm
Like the others, I'd say Clickpad non-CAS, since you explicitly wrote that you're into gaming but not into math.
With the Clickpad non-CAS, you get the 84+ keypad as a bonus, which, besides the 84+ mode, could prove useful with, say, a 89(T) emulator (89/89T and most of the recent TI-Z80 family models have the same layout).

The Ti-89 is difficult to type on, as well.  You can't use the 84+ keypad to type letters perfectly on a Ti-89 emulator, because all the letters are mixed up--and X, Y and Z all have their own keys rather than requiring ALPHA.
If you're talking about the general pattern of keys, that is true, though the 89 keyboard has different labels on keys.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on August 04, 2010, 07:37:17 am
Yeah, I'm talking about the general pattern of keys. The labels on the 84+ keypad would obviously be incorrect for a 89(T), but "finger feel" comes to the rescue. I bought a 89 in 2000, and when I use TI-Z80 calculators, I always find myself pressing VARS instead of backspace, DEL instead of ESC, etc.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 08, 2010, 04:53:53 pm
It's ironic...true, it's time for Texas Instruments to lower its prices, but thanks to the awesome TI community, it's 100 times cheaper to buy a TI-89 w/games than to buy a Game Boy w/games.  And the games for the TI-89 are better ;D
Not really. A GB over here costs about $10 now. For popular and rare games, the price adds up in the end, though :P (I saw some games at like $25 once, like Final Fantasy Legends II)
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: willrandship on August 13, 2010, 07:56:13 pm
Yeah, that's where all the costs are with nintendo products. Wii, for instance, here is $200 new, while each game is $50, and each wiimote set is also $50. I only run homebrew on it though :P and netflix
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 14, 2010, 12:59:47 pm
Oh I meant old discontinued games/consoles, not new ones that are still on sale. Nowadays, even 360 and PS3 games are very expensive when they are popular, although the PS3 is still very expensive compared to both other consoles (which is the only other reason why I never bought one besides the lack of game variety)
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: willrandship on August 20, 2010, 09:07:14 pm
I didn't buy it because I'm poor :'(
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: fb39ca4 on August 22, 2010, 05:06:09 pm
Yeah, that's where all the costs are with nintendo products. Wii, for instance, here is $200 new, while each game is $50, and each wiimote set is also $50. I only run homebrew on it though :P and netflix
I only have two wii games-wii sports and super mario galaxy-because I got mine as a gift and my parents are against video games, so Iuse homebrew too.

Anyways, its kind of scary that when you see a stack of five console games, and know they're worth $250.
Title: Re: Which Nspire?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 22, 2010, 09:07:03 pm
True. That said, a lot of games drop to like $5-10 after a few years now, though. That's of course until they become collectables.