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Title: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: ipwn3r456 on August 09, 2013, 08:48:22 pm
Hello community,

First time here. Just bought a Ti-Nspire CX a week ago, and looking towards to do some modding. Did some research and saw about NdLess launcher. I haven't upgraded the software that came with the calculator (version 3.0.1.1753), because I am scared that it won't work. Would the latest software work with NdLess launcher? Are there any tutorials of how to put games on it? Thanks.
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: Streetwalrus on August 10, 2013, 04:12:55 am
Ndless is not compatible with OS 3.2.x and will most likely never be. You need os 3.1.0.392 to use Ndless (since you have 3.0.x you're lucky as you'll be able to install it no problem).
I'll help you to install Nlaunch and Ndless happily, can you tell me if you have the CAS or non-CAS model ?

Welcome to Omnimaga by the way. ;)
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Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: ipwn3r456 on August 10, 2013, 06:11:25 pm
Oh. Sorry about that. I am using the non-CAS model. I kind of know that you need Ndless and Nlaunch to install games, would installing another OS on the calculator as well (such as Ti-Nspire CX CAS software on the Ti-Nspire CX non-CAS)?
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: Streetwalrus on August 11, 2013, 06:41:46 am
Yes you can install a CAS OS on a non-CAS calc (I did it on mine) but it's not supported on this forum as this is considered cheating in America (I'm French).

First download Nlaunchy here : http://tiplanet.org/forum/archives_voir.php?id=12130
Then Ndless here : http://www.unsads.com/projects/nsptools/downloader/download/release/1 (pick the highest revision)
And your OS here : http://tiplanet.org/forum/archives_voir.php?id=3717
You also need TNOC : http://tiplanet.org/forum/archives_voir.php?id=1922

Make sure you have an up to date version of the Nspire computer link or student software on your computer. I'll tell you what you need to do once you have all this stuff.
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: ipwn3r456 on August 13, 2013, 09:39:50 pm
Sorry for the late reply. I downloaded all the things, and now what do I do? Would I able to install the latest version of the TI-Nspire CX CAS 3.2.3 on it?
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: Levak on August 14, 2013, 10:15:29 am
Sorry for the late reply. I downloaded all the things, and now what do I do? Would I able to install the latest version of the TI-Nspire CX CAS 3.2.3 on it?
Install OS CX non CAS 3.1 on your calc the proper way, install Ndless 3.1 by reading the included README or tuts, install nlaunchy by reading the included README or tuts, then launch OS CX CAS 3.2.3 using nlaunchy (notice that this is not an install but only a "launch").

Edit : oh, and search a bit by your own, your question has been a lot asked, and recently answered by the come of nlaunch(y).
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: ipwn3r456 on August 17, 2013, 01:37:40 pm
Sorry for the late reply. I downloaded all the things, and now what do I do? Would I able to install the latest version of the TI-Nspire CX CAS 3.2.3 on it?
Install OS CX non CAS 3.1 on your calc the proper way, install Ndless 3.1 by reading the included README or tuts, install nlaunchy by reading the included README or tuts, then launch OS CX CAS 3.2.3 using nlaunchy (notice that this is not an install but only a "launch").

Edit : oh, and search a bit by your own, your question has been a lot asked, and recently answered by the come of nlaunch(y).

What do you mean just a launch not an install? Can you still use all the functions in the OS CX CAS software, right?
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: critor on August 17, 2013, 01:46:53 pm
It's an install, and yes all CX CAS functions will be available.
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: ipwn3r456 on August 20, 2013, 12:30:23 am
I think I will do it later on. What if some reason you want to restore everything back (like factory reset), how do you do that?
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on August 20, 2013, 01:11:15 am
You would use the maintenance menu through maintaining the Reset button on the back pressed, pressing DOC + Enter + EE, and releasing the Reset button.
This key combo, and others, can be seen at http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5360&lang=en
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: bosserRV on September 29, 2013, 01:55:50 pm
Hi guys this is my first post....

I've been looking doing this conversion. No matter how many times I do the procedure, I end up getting stuck and on the top left I see "ABC12345fF6U7"

EDIT: For those getting similar problems, I decided to use a newer version of CX CAS software the 3.2 one supported by nLaunch. It works... I think you can't use mviewer now and ndless but it may be a worthwhile tradeoff...
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: ipwn3r456 on December 16, 2013, 01:08:10 am
Wow. It's been 4 months already and I haven't done anything... OS 3.6 is here for Ti-Nspire series. Is there any new ways for installing Ti-Nspire CX CAS into a Ti-Nspire CX now? Would it work if I put OS 3.6?
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 17, 2013, 03:10:22 am
Don't upgrade to 3.6. You'll regret it if you plan to use Ndless. Unlike previous OSes, you can't go back afterward, not even via RS232 nor the existing hacks. I think it might be possible to use 3.1 and 3.6 simultaneously (via nLaunched 3.6) but I'm unsure. Someone who knows more about this should confirm in case.

I don't see any point in using 3.6 anyway, as it adds nothing new, doesn't fix any existing bugs and comes with extra anti-downgrade/Ndless protections.
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: stefos on December 17, 2013, 05:49:59 pm
Wow. It's been 4 months already and I haven't done anything... OS 3.6 is here for Ti-Nspire series. Is there any new ways for installing Ti-Nspire CX CAS into a Ti-Nspire CX now? Would it work if I put OS 3.6?

Hey man,

I downloaded the 3.6 OS & you can run Ndless but only under the Boot 2 (There are 2 boots to go under btw)
and you have to install 3.1 OS as well under Boot 2.

There is some hardware you have to buy & hook up & then you have to reset to run Ndless.

Take a look at my thread "Worth Upgrading?"
Stefos   [Look for my name in the thread, I started it! :) ]
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: Levak on December 17, 2013, 06:20:45 pm
Wow. It's been 4 months already and I haven't done anything... OS 3.6 is here for Ti-Nspire series. Is there any new ways for installing Ti-Nspire CX CAS into a Ti-Nspire CX now? Would it work if I put OS 3.6?

Hey man,

I downloaded the 3.6 OS & you can run Ndless but only under the Boot 2 (There are 2 boots to go under btw)
and you have to install 3.1 OS as well under Boot 2.
There is some hardware you have to buy & hook up & then you have to reset to run Ndless.
I don't know what you're talking about the way you said it. If someone reads this without knowing everything he might get confused and try to install OS 3.6 first the official way which is a doomed way.

The correct facts are : You can run OS 3.6 with nLaunchy and if you want you can run Ndlessed OS 3.1 with nLaunchy switch feature (see the many Ndless switch topics).

In order to have nLaunchy available you have to have boot2 3.1. This is where the hardware part comes. If you don't have boot2 3.1 you may use a TTL/USB adaptator to reprogram this boot2.

But this is not the end. If you have an Nspire with >= J-revision, you have to buy a new mother board from a reseller.

So next time, don't say you can install Ndless and OS 3.6, these are two seperates things (see Ndless switcher 3.6).
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: stefos on December 17, 2013, 09:14:34 pm
Wow. It's been 4 months already and I haven't done anything... OS 3.6 is here for Ti-Nspire series. Is there any new ways for installing Ti-Nspire CX CAS into a Ti-Nspire CX now? Would it work if I put OS 3.6?

Hey man,

I downloaded the 3.6 OS & you can run Ndless but only under the Boot 2 (There are 2 boots to go under btw)
and you have to install 3.1 OS as well under Boot 2.
There is some hardware you have to buy & hook up & then you have to reset to run Ndless.
I don't know what you're talking about the way you said it. If someone reads this without knowing everything he might get confused and try to install OS 3.6 first the official way which is a doomed way.

The correct facts are : You can run OS 3.6 with nLaunchy and if you want you can run Ndlessed OS 3.1 with nLaunchy switch feature (see the many Ndless switch topics).

In order to have nLaunchy available you have to have boot2 3.1. This is where the hardware part comes. If you don't have boot2 3.1 you may use a TTL/USB adaptator to reprogram this boot2.

But this is not the end. If you have an Nspire with >= J-revision, you have to buy a new mother board from a reseller.

So next time, don't say you can install Ndless and OS 3.6, these are two seperates things (see Ndless switcher 3.6).

Understood Levak.......I think you misunderstood what I meant. 
This is why I said to ipwn3r456 to look at my thread called: "Worth Upgrading?" which is posted BELOW this thread.

I didn't get more technical because I wanted him to do the spade work & read what I posted.

I jumped the gun without asking here & installed 3.6  My hardware is an "E" model which has Boot 1 & Boot 2.

Nuff said....

ipwn3r456 Please read the entire thread with the title "Is 3.6 worth upgrading to?" or Whatever it's called.

Technical advices is given & you should see what model of TI Nspire CX CAS calculator you have.

Post online what you have insofar as the CX CAS calculator model is concerned & the nice folks here will help you.
Stefos

P.S. Levak...In the future, try asking people what they mean before accusing.....Not good manners.
Adieu
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: Levak on December 18, 2013, 12:28:58 pm
I didn't get more technical because I wanted him to do the spade work & read what I posted.
Okay,  but there is a difference between not spoiling researches and saying wrong statements.

I jumped the gun without asking here & installed 3.6  My hardware is an "E" model which has Boot 1 & Boot 2.
I still don't understand any word you're saying in that sentence. If you installed OS 3.6 the official way, you cannot install Ndless anymore without hardware manipulations. Plus  "has boot1& boot2" doesn't make any sense without actual versions of both.

P.S. Levak...In the future, try asking people what they mean before accusing.....Not good manners.
Adieu
Thanks for telling me I have bad manners. Also "Adieu" doesn't stand for "good bye" in french but something more like "God saves you" or even worse, "Die, thank you".
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: Adriweb on December 18, 2013, 01:19:03 pm
Or rather, "farewell" with a negative POV, like "see you never again".

Anyway, Stefos: I think it's better to be over-precise in the first place than having to deal with unfortunate consequences due to misunderstandings or lacks of details based on assumptions... ;)
Title: Re: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 18, 2013, 02:13:53 pm
Note: if you don't like Levak's way of speaking, it's best to just ignore him or better, only take the useful info from his posts, and if you really feel he has been out of line, then there's a thumbs down icon right above his post and a report to moderator link at the bottom. A 404 not found will occur when sending a report but it will send and mods will get notified.

I think he was fine, though, although we need to understand that each other's native language isn't English. Your post, from my point of view, could have misled people into installing OS 3.6 the normal way, thinking it runs Ndless, especially if people don't bother reading all the post. As for Levak, his posts often sounds more rude than he normally is, he's definitively no troll and while we prefer that people remain as courteous as possible, he definitively has no intention to single you out as forum user. Installing OS 3.6 is very, very dangerous from an Ndless point of view, so he's just trying to save people from installing it by mistake.

By the way, "Adieu" in French means "so long" or "farewell" over here.
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: stefos on December 18, 2013, 06:21:47 pm
Note: if you don't like Levak's way of speaking, it's best to just ignore him or better, only take the useful info from his posts, and if you really feel he has been out of line, then there's a thumbs down icon right above his post and a report to moderator link at the bottom. A 404 not found will occur when sending a report but it will send and mods will get notified.

I think he was fine, though, although we need to understand that each other's native language isn't English. Your post, from my point of view, could have misled people into installing OS 3.6 the normal way, thinking it runs Ndless, especially if people don't bother reading all the post. As for Levak, his posts often sounds more rude than he normally is, he's definitively no troll and while we prefer that people remain as courteous as possible, he definitively has no intention to single you out as forum user. Installing OS 3.6 is very, very dangerous from an Ndless point of view, so he's just trying to save people from installing it by mistake.

By the way, "Adieu" in French means "so long" or "farewell" over here.

Right DJ Omnimaga!

I only meant to help & things get blown out of proportion.
Adieu or not

This is why I said to look at my existing thread "Is the new OS worth installing..."
as that addresses hardware that has the 3.6 OS on it as well as what's needed to actually
install Ndless.....Whatever.

I'm done...When the hardware I ordered comes in, I will post on my own thread for help.

Thank you,
Stefos
Title: Re: Would NdLess launcher work with OS 3.2.3 on the Ti-Nspire CX?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 18, 2013, 06:51:00 pm
Don't worry about it. I think it's just due to language barrier personally. I myself often got into many misunderstandings with Levak in the past and some other members due to it.

That said, since OS 3.6 is this dangerous, this might explain why people's reaction might be more rash if they fear that someone might install it to run Ndless due to not due to misunderstanding a post. I think the main issue was this post:

I downloaded the 3.6 OS & you can run Ndless but only under the Boot 2 (There are 2 boots to go under btw)

Someone who is new to the TI-Nspire scene might read this then tell himself "WOW OS 3.6 can run Ndless??? Gonna upgrade now!!1!1W00T!1!1one" and forget that he still needs 3.1 installed as the main OS with Ndless and nLaunchy.

Anyway, the issue is solved so I think we can move on :)