Omnimaga
General Discussion => Other Discussions => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Munchor on February 09, 2011, 06:14:37 pm
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I was recently (a couple of minutes) contacted by happybojr, and so was DJ, it seems we are the two persons of Omnimaga he has the email address of.
It said....
Hello, this is happybobjr.
I am not sure why, and would love more information why i am banned from omnimaga.
Any information would be great.
And then I said...
Hello happybojr, I have to tell you that it seems you spammed.
Check http://netham45.org/irc/EfNet/view.php?log=omnimaga.20110209
Check that, 11:54 AM.
It was quite bad and DJ was quite pissed. However, I am almost sure it was not you.
And he said...
time?
And I replied...
11:54 AM.
Search inside the page 'GOD DAMNIT' and you will find it.
And he finally said...
Holy cow!
That was most certainly not me.
I think I know who it is and I am really sorry that this happened.
It looks like it happened during my lunch period today.
Could you send DJ my most sincere apologies that this happened and ask if he can unban me and give me a new password?
I think I should let everyone know of this since I always knew it couldn't have been him, he would never do such thing.
I am now going to tell him that DJ is not an admin any more but that soon an admin will know of this.
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We will be going over this information, thank you for letting us know.
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We will be going over this information, thank you for letting us know.
No problem, I hope the admins talk about it and this gets solved soon ;D
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Should this be moved into the Staff board?
Thanks for the info, Scout. :)
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No, we will talk about this via pm/irc.
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I really appreciate you helping me out with this.
I answer...
Not a problem happybojr, the admins taking over the situation as we speak.
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Hm, reminds me of when people at school griefed my Minecraft server on my behalf. I know how it feels getting his account hacked for spam.
I hope his account will get undeleted, Happybobjr was kinda a nice guy if you don't take the spam attributed to him into account.
Also, DJ should at least know of this, since he initially set the ban in emergency.
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Also, DJ should at least know of this, since he initially set the ban in emergency.
DJ is being included in the discussion.
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Also, DJ should at least know of this, since he initially set the ban in emergency.
DJ is being included in the discussion.
I like it :D
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I feel sorry for Happybobjr. Glad things are being discussed though.
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Hm, reminds me of when people at school griefed my Minecraft server on my behalf. I know how it feels getting his account hacked for spam.
Agreed.
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I third that. The ban was necessary though, because otherwise the spam would go on for hours. Too bad the account is lost; but at least now we know that our good colleague and omni sub-veteran happybobjr is clean :)
edit by squidgetx...I'm sorry but can we please at least try to spell correctly? Sorry if this sounds harsh, I don't really intend it to be condescending/meanspirited. Thank you :)
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Doesn't the board store deleted things for in case you accidentally delete things you didn't mean to? Or was the account completely wiped for good?
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Oh, that is a really d!ck move >:( People should respect the fact that by spamming under another persons name can be very harmful. It is a form of identity theft. Grrrr, I wish I knew some people interested in law.
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I'm interested in law, but I'm only a high-schooler.
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I don't think law would be particularly helpful in this situation as we've little but anecdotal evidence to go by and, quite frankly, I don't think anecdotal evidence helps much in proving identity theft, if the law even considers something like this identity theft. I could be wrong though.
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Ah, well I was wondering if posing under the name of another person and doing things like *that* (meaning posting stuff that could harm a persons reputation and rights) was considered identity theft.
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In a way, it's theft and probably libel, but if you think about it, nobody can truly prove their identity on the Internet. Given the general anonymity of the web and the fact it's something of a sovereign entity, it's really hard to call shots here. Again, I could be wrong :/
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happybobjr was banned? I mean, it looks like he posted about 25-30 times inappropriately. it's obvious he was hacked, so ban him for a day, send him an email letting him know when it took place so he knows how he got hacked. everyone who's known happybobjr for more than a few months knows he wouldn't spam on purpose. in short, the permban was an overreaction. However, i have to ask, did DJ get punished at all for saying "STOP GODDAMNIT!!" at least 50+ times consecutively? In my opinion, happybobjr should've been banned for a day and emailed about the situation. DJ should have been at least given a warning from an admin. rule 7 was broken for spam and rule 8 because a cuss word was spammed.
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I have a friend who is a lawyer, but the incident needs to involve either fall protection equipment or a small boating accident.
Anyways I feel bad for happybojr. It would be pretty sad for anyone to lose their account and all its histroy. :(
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This issue is being dealt with by the admins and certain parties involved.
All aspects of the issue that have been mentioned are being addressed, although it may take some time for something to actually happen due to the fact that not all admins have replied on the issue yet.
So lets not start taking sides, or blaming others in public. Any more questions on if an action has been taken on "this or that" should be pm'd to an admin instead of asked in public as to avoid incidents.
Thank you.
(If I sound harsh or something I apologize, I'm a little upset about something completely different atm)
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I would lock the topic eeems. Just for now at least.
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Topic locked
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Although this is locked, I feel like I need to add my say there:
Happybobjr account will be re-instated from a backup made recently. His posts will also be re-attributed to his account afterward. However I need to clarify things:
Happybobjr had a past history of being warned on the forums. He received at least three forum warnings for being rude, a bunch for topic advertising, got called out a few times on spammish posts and IRC randomness, in order. Before the spam, he posted about how there was too much swearing and stuff on Omnimaga, but some people disagreed with some points. Not long afterward the spam attack occurs, but here's the thing: The account was viewing the DJ no longer admin thread while doing so. Inevitably it sounded like him, not to mention certain of his spam (not the bad words) were similar to some of his previous shorter spam.
Now I apologise for jumping to the conclusion that it was him too fast, but first of all, many clues made it sound like it was him deciding to go loose now that the most active admin would no longer warn him. I even started to wonder if he wasn't Thegame/I am a troll, since his spelling (no offense) was similar. I also apologise for overeacting to his spam and flooding the channel with all caps afterward as well, and staff/admins are free to assign any punishment to me if they feel necessary.
However, nemo, Check your PM. You need to think about what admins had to deal with (both IRL and online) before badmouthing them for their action.