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Title: Eragon
Post by: bfr on January 08, 2007, 04:01:00 pm
"Eragon" has been popping up every once in a while in the forums and IRC.  What do you all think of it?  
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Post by: trevmeister66 on January 08, 2007, 04:08:00 pm
It was a great book, but haven't seen the movie.
I give it 2 thumbs up! :king:king2.gif
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 08, 2007, 04:15:00 pm
well in the other thread someone said the books were good but the movie was crap. some ppl said it was not bad though at work. I am confused now as if it would be worth to spend money to go see the movie now
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Post by: trevmeister66 on January 08, 2007, 04:17:00 pm
I'm not gonna see the movie, I've already read both books and i know what happens. I would just be the person in the crowd yelling out what's going to happen, thus getting myself kicked out of the theatre and wasting my money.

So long story short...I'm not gonna see it.
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 08, 2007, 04:18:00 pm
ok, i hated when my bro did that when i was young. he went to see the movie, then when I went to see it he told me everything that was gonna happens. <.<
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Post by: spengo on January 08, 2007, 04:20:00 pm
I never read the books, but I heard they were good. I did watch the movie and it was painfully bad. Extremely overdramatic music + way overdone acting + big a** plot holes = teh bad. The dialogue was the worst I ever heard. I did gain some mild entertainment from it as I went with a bunch of friends and we could poke fun at the movie as it went. :Dbiggrin.gif

I kinda want to read the books now though... see if they are as good as people say and how the hell they screwed up so bad in the movie.
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Post by: trevmeister66 on January 08, 2007, 04:22:00 pm
Dang the movie must have been bad.
But the books, if you like fantasy books, are really really really really good. But since you've seen the movie, the book s are probably ruined, but you should read them anyway.
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Post by: Spellshaper on January 08, 2007, 09:02:00 pm
I own the books and they own me. :Dbiggrin.gif

No matter what, I wanna see the movie. Even if it's as bad as they say it is. Even if I get a seat soaked in coke. :Ptongue.gif

step1: watch.
step2: rant.
step3: wait for the third book.
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Post by: Radical Pi on January 08, 2007, 11:53:00 pm
So it is as bad as everyone I know is saying...

I want to read the books, Books=good, Movies of books=*vomits*
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 09, 2007, 12:42:00 am
besides LOTR and Harry Potter in most case I found that movies based on books always sucks. Even LOTR/HP has lacking because they cut down on scenes (altough they are still good)
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Post by: tifreak on January 09, 2007, 03:17:00 am
I thought the movie was enjoyable, especially since there aren't many movies in that genre that are even considered decent.

I will agree some of it was not that great, I felt the overall movie was good enough that I will own it when it comes out.

Oh, and I am currently reading the first book... I have already noticed how much was removed...  :knight:knight3.gif
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Post by: Delnar_Ersike on January 09, 2007, 04:56:00 am
I have read both books, but have not seen the movie. IMHO, Eragon and Eldest aren't that good. If you pay close attention, a lot of stuff was copied from LOTR and Star Wars Original Trilogy (think Brom as Ben Kenobi, the teacher guy in Eldest Yoda, Murtagh Darth Vader, Galbatorix Emperor Palpatine, etc).

I've seen the game that came out for Eragon and played the demo and it is the stupidest game I have ever seen...
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Post by: elfprince13 on January 09, 2007, 07:24:00 am
I thought the books were good, and the only person Ive heard say really good things about the movie was Tifreak (everyone else says C-B- range).
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Post by: trevmeister66 on January 09, 2007, 11:27:00 am
About the author though:

He was only like 16 when he wrote the first one.
His parents had to sell their farm to get the first book published.
so...
MAJOR PROPS for him.


If anybody else knows anything special, please post.

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Post by: bfr on January 09, 2007, 11:39:00 am
I knew that this thread would be a hit.  :Dbiggrin.gif

I congradulate the author for writing Eragon when he was so young and for it even becoming a reasonably popular movie.

I personally didn't really enjoy the movie though.  It was just too "cheesy."  The whole story seemed a bit rushed.  Some parts were OK, but overall, I didn't really enjoy it.  Maybe the book is better.  A year or so ago, I read the first few pages of the book and was bored.  I might give it another chance, but I already know what happens.
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Post by: trevmeister66 on January 09, 2007, 11:43:00 am
Is the movie only about the first book, or does it have parts of the second book in it?

I guess only people that have read both books AND seen the movie would know.
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Post by: spengo on January 09, 2007, 12:51:00 pm
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besides LOTR and Harry Potter in most case I found that movies based on books always sucks. Even LOTR/HP has lacking because they cut down on scenes (altough they are still good)  

 Uhh, I loved the LOTR movies (except for the super long ending of the third one, granted this is much shorter than in the book but there was like a whole battle with saruman in the shire that they skipped in the movie) and have all 3 special extended editions of it. :3

Harry Potter movies I considered loathsome. I watched the first two and they were so bad I never bothered watching the others. :Xscotch.gif

@bfr: cheesy, that's a good word for that movie :thumbup:google.gif
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Post by: trevmeister66 on January 09, 2007, 01:48:00 pm
Yeah the LOTR movies pwned! (never read the books)

I never got into the Harry Potter movies, (haven't seen one yet), but the books were pretty good.
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 09, 2007, 01:57:00 pm
mhmm spengo i wasn saying lotr movies were bad, i was just saying they cut down some stuff that were in books, else it would have ended in a 50 hour long movie. i loved LOTR2,3 especially
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Post by: spengo on January 09, 2007, 03:37:00 pm
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mhmm spengo i wasn saying lotr movies were bad, i was just saying they cut down some stuff that were in books, else it would have ended in a 50 hour long movie. i loved LOTR2,3 especially  

 hehe, it's close enough to that already XDsmiley.gif
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Post by: elfprince13 on January 10, 2007, 06:32:00 pm
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I have read both books, but have not seen the movie. IMHO, Eragon and Eldest aren't that good. If you pay close attention, a lot of stuff was copied from LOTR and Star Wars Original Trilogy (think Brom as Ben Kenobi, the teacher guy in Eldest Yoda, Murtagh Darth Vader, Galbatorix Emperor Palpatine, etc).

I've seen the game that came out for Eragon and played the demo and it is the stupidest game I have ever seen...  

 I suggest you read Campbell's "A hero with a thousand faces" before you go any further with that.


on a side note, while the lord of the rings movies were excellent cinematography, the content compared to the books was absolutely horrid. they absolutely trashed the characters of Gandalf, Aragorn, Denethor, Theoden, Elrond, Faramir and Treebeard, took out important scenes, and made up a couple.
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Post by: spengo on January 10, 2007, 06:42:00 pm
Hahaha, yeah I disagree with some of the things they did in lotr, but it is a book=>movie adaption after all. It was probably a good plan to leave out that whole thing with saruman in the shire for example. In a movie that would have seemed extremely anti-climatic. Personally, I think they did the characters rather well in the movie. The thing I disliked the most was the part where Aragorn fell down the cliff and "died" in the fight with wargs and uruk-hai in the second movie. I was like, wtf is this doing in here. :Ptongue.gif Well, that and the ridiculously long ending stuff. <_<dry.gif
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Post by: Delnar_Ersike on January 11, 2007, 12:31:00 pm
To tell you guys the truth, I have only seen the first movie cause that was the only one I could put on hold from the library :oops:embarassed.gif . However, I have read all of the books and The Hobbit, too.

IMO, when it comes to books/movies, books/games, or movies/games, usually the one that came before the other is better. Also, some good movie directors have some strange ideas...
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Post by: spengo on January 11, 2007, 01:14:00 pm
I agree. Almost all of the time, the thing that came first is best in terms of conversions. However you have to admit, some conversions are better than others. ;)wink.gif
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Post by: Spellshaper on January 13, 2007, 04:30:00 am
Whatever the case, I'm gonna see the movie today in about... 1h. I'll tell you my personal opinion then. :)smile.gif
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Post by: Spellshaper on January 13, 2007, 08:57:00 am
Ok...
I did not like the way the movie was executed.
They left out a lot like the twins (ok, they always have to because of the limited time), jumbled events together (wtf? Arya gets to meet Brom?! why does Arya let Brom die instead of healing his wound?), and changed others (Brom dies of a wound he recieved when he tries to shield Eragon from a spear Durza hurles at him).
The storyline is more linear in the movie, Saphira does not gradually grow but suddenly "explodes" to full size and her voice is kind of childish (maybe the english sub is better in that aspect).

All in all... I think the director partly did not want to bother the watcher with details and partly wanted to show off his own creativity with changing the plot and storyline.
I can not really recommend viewing it to those who know the books already.
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Post by: Delnar_Ersike on January 13, 2007, 05:04:00 pm
just so you guys know, lots of scenes in the movie were filmed in Hungary, and you can guess why it is so important to me... :Dbiggrin.gif

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They left out a lot like the twins


wow, they play a huge part in Eragon and in Eldest, why would they leave them out?  :Oo:fou2.gif
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Post by: elfprince13 on January 14, 2007, 10:12:00 am
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just so you guys know, lots of scenes in the movie were filmed in Hungary, and you can guess why it is so important to me... :Dbiggrin.gif

QUOTE
They left out a lot like the twins


wow, they play a huge part in Eragon and in Eldest, why would they leave them out?  :Oo:fou2.gif

 ooh cool, where in Hungary are you from? 2 of my dad's 3 brothers live in Budapest.
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Post by: Delnar_Ersike on January 14, 2007, 11:58:00 am
*Delnar_Ersike
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Post by: dinhotheone on January 14, 2007, 01:16:00 pm
Basically what i think happened to the movie was they tried to make a 5-6 hundred page book into a 1.5 hour movie when a 3-4 hundred page book (LOTR) made a much longer movie. Even that having been said, there were multiple plot changes that were unneccesary or shouldnt have been included/left out (eragon finding out about brom early on, solembum and his prophesy,  the fact that arya already loves eragon, the big dwarf diamond, arya leaving for the elves before eragon, the killing of the ra'zac.... the list goes on and on [if you read the books you'll know what im talking about]) i wouldn't suggest seeing the movie if you read the book, it'll only make you angry, but if you already saw the movie, i'd suggest reading the book, it pwns the movie.
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Post by: trevmeister66 on January 14, 2007, 03:48:00 pm
lol not that's the spirit. I might just see the movie to get pissed. Maybe it'll spark some thing that'll make me want to read again and i'll read the books again.

Just maybe...
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Post by: lordofthegeeks on July 10, 2007, 12:45:00 am
from your discrip of the movie I willing to say most book to movie conversions Make the Book Look evan beter lol
You Ever Seen chronicles of narnia though?
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Post by: Delnar_Ersike on July 10, 2007, 01:04:00 am
Well, I decided to see Eragon on a flight with Virgin Atlantic from San Francisco to London (I also saw Flushed Away, 300, and a couple of TV shows too), and the movie was terrible. Not only were almost all the facts incorrect (Brom getting killed by Durza, Saphira telling Eragon her name instead of Eragon naming her, Arya being awake when she was rescued, etc.), but the movie left some parts out completely, including Yazuac, Teirm, Dras Leona, Helgrind, and the entire Hadarac Desert. Also, the mountain chains they used for the Spine, the Beor Mountains, and the mountains beside Gil'ead were the same mountain chain IRL. The characters' faces were unintelligent and displayed no complex emotions and the music tried to be heroic but sounded completely clicheic and horrible. Overall, don't watch the movie.

My description of the book is a bit earlier into the thread, and my enthusiasm for the book is only a bit larger than for the movie.
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Post by: lordofthegeeks on July 10, 2007, 01:19:00 am
the books ok.
but have you ever  seen chronicles of narnia?
It make The eragon book series look like they are. ;)wink.gif
They are written by one of J. R. R. Tolkien friends or so I here. They at least went to the same pub.
also the guy who wrote them was a Theologan.
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Post by: trevmeister66 on July 10, 2007, 03:21:00 am
Eh i liked the eragon books, but now i'm certainly not going to see the movie.  
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Post by: dinhotheone on July 10, 2007, 05:25:00 am
good choise, besides its a one shot deal. they couldnt possibly make a second movie with all the s*** they left out (there arent any twins! for one) so your not gona be missing much. watching this movie also makes me very very sad.
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Post by: MechaTech84 on July 10, 2007, 05:28:00 am
I read the book and saw the movie, and the movie didn't follow the book's story very well... I wonder how they will do eldest if they make it a movie, I am not sure they can make a sequel...
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Post by: spengo on July 10, 2007, 08:00:00 am
I never read the book but I heard it was good.

I watched the movie and... OH GOD I have rarely seen anything worse. Terrible acting, plot that makes no sense whatsoever, and the most cheesy lines I have ever heard. It was a good thing I went with friends so we could make fun of it the entire time. Otherwise, I think I might have walked out of the theater. <_<dry.gif
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Post by: lordofthegeeks on July 10, 2007, 08:13:00 am
The books were a little bit better.
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Post by: dinhotheone on July 10, 2007, 10:28:00 am
what?!?! a little bit better. thats a massive understatement.

 the plot of the LOTR movies were as close to the Eragon book as the eragon movie was to it. the movie was so far off its ridiculous. and no i dont think they're gona be doing eldest because number one: whoever made the movie should either be dead or in hiding and two they f'ed up all over the place. like 1/4 of book 2 is about eragon and arya. eragon loves her, and she can't love him back. but in the movie eragon, there is already mutual love. also the twins were not mentioned, but i guess you could get around them if its assumed that urgals would have regularly been able to overpower aizihad even though his entire honor guard was taken out by the twins in the book. also solembum's prophecy is never mentioned thouogh that will be more important in the third book. and i guess either the first half of book two would have to be skipped as arya already left the varden for ellesmera or that entire segment would have to be done without her even leaving them with no choise but to lie about how eragon enters ellesmera. also the Razac are dead, so the entire segment about roran would have to be made up not to mention that they will be playing a major part in book 3 also that merchant guy that is friends with brom, he was never seen so once again the entire roran segment of the second movie would end up being a big lie. over all, its either gona suck more than the first movie or it wont happen

the only part of the book the really nailed was the first ~3-5 minutes aka the prolouge. after that it seems they just toook the different parts of eragon and mixed em all up and that was the script. eg. saphira grows up in like minute 7, the herbalists prophesy haapens in the same town as eragon learns magic. it seems they also decided not to limit themselves by sticking to the book at all. spells are made up that give eragon xray vision and they decided to take some parts from eldest by having arya leave the varden.

comparing the book to the movie is worse than comparing the hitchhiker books to that movie, for all of you that have seen that.

this post was writen with a half hour of my time in the hopes that i am able to save 3 hours of yours (2.5 hours of movie, .5 hours of crying).
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Post by: lordofthegeeks on July 10, 2007, 10:40:00 am
I was being nice Check out the narnia sieries
They are ok.
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Post by: dinhotheone on July 10, 2007, 10:45:00 am
i hav, all eleven or so books, read em, enjoyed em and the movie was good too.
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Post by: Radical Pi on July 10, 2007, 11:18:00 am
I haven't read any of the Inheritance books, but they're on my summer reading list. Right after Deathly Hallows...

And before you ask, I read the first book in the Narnia series :Ptongue.gif
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Post by: calc84maniac on July 10, 2007, 11:28:00 am
There are only 7 Narnia books XDsmiley.gif
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Post by: Speler on July 10, 2007, 01:12:00 pm
My personal reading list for the summer:

Read a large sum of Philup K d*** books.  He is god.
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Post by: dinhotheone on July 10, 2007, 01:41:00 pm
i was speaking in base 6 obviously. my reading list is to eat through as many of the wheel of time books as i can, they rock (like an 11-12 book series [base 10], im on 9 or so) Robert Jordan is a beast and if i finish those, ill be working on the Ender's series, i'm on #4 for that (ender's game, ender's shadow, speaker for the dead and im gona read #4: xenocide)

ps. if anyone dares to try to grammer attack me on my lack of capitalization i will eat them and gain their power, so you are all warned.
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Post by: Radical Pi on July 10, 2007, 03:09:00 pm
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grammer attack  

 So I can do a grammar attack?  
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Post by: spengo on July 10, 2007, 06:34:00 pm
Narnia is pretty cool. I remember reading those books as a kid. The movie was a little meh, but whatev. (100000000x better than the eragon movie though hehe)