« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Down

Author Topic: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?  (Read 10500 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline tr1p1ea

  • LV7 Elite (Next: 700)
  • *******
  • Posts: 647
  • Rating: +110/-0
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2014, 01:54:43 am »
How many 8x8 sprites does it take to change a lightbulb?

Since 8x8=64 pixels, its 1 bit per pixel and there are 8-bits in 1 byte, 64/8 = 8bytes for an 8x8 sprite.

There are compression techniques that can be used however?
Logged
"My world is Black & White. But if I blink fast enough, I see it in Grayscale."

Offline Hayleia

  • Programming Absol
  • Coder Of Tomorrow
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3367
  • Rating: +393/-7
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2014, 01:58:58 am »
Since we are trying to get absolutely all sprites, it means that we will get the same probability for ones and zeroes, so no compression possible I guess.
Logged
I own: 83+ ; 84+SE ; 76.fr ; CX CAS ; Prizm ; 84+CSE
Sorry if I answer with something that seems unrelated, English is not my primary language and I might not have understood well. Sorry if I make English mistakes too.

click here to know where you got your last +1s

Offline tr1p1ea

  • LV7 Elite (Next: 700)
  • *******
  • Posts: 647
  • Rating: +110/-0
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2014, 02:01:18 am »
I do believe that there was a Cellular Automata project going on for generating useful 8x8 sprites. It was on the old UTI boards i believe.
Logged
"My world is Black & White. But if I blink fast enough, I see it in Grayscale."

Offline Hayleia

  • Programming Absol
  • Coder Of Tomorrow
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3367
  • Rating: +393/-7
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2014, 02:03:19 am »
Well it was about useful sprites, not all sprites including garbage ones, so probabilities are probably not the same ;)
Which means compression might be possible.
Logged
I own: 83+ ; 84+SE ; 76.fr ; CX CAS ; Prizm ; 84+CSE
Sorry if I answer with something that seems unrelated, English is not my primary language and I might not have understood well. Sorry if I make English mistakes too.

click here to know where you got your last +1s

Offline josh landers

  • LV4 Regular (Next: 200)
  • ****
  • Posts: 116
  • Rating: +1/-0
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2014, 12:55:53 pm »
Index of hex codes are the same as a 29991430517935280 worded document
Logged

Offline Sorunome

  • Fox Fox Fox Fox Fox Fox Fox!
  • Support Staff
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 7920
  • Rating: +374/-13
  • Derpy Hooves
    • View Profile
    • My website! (You might lose the game)
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2014, 09:44:08 am »
Quote from: josh landers on April 28, 2014, 06:33:28 pm
Also could Omnimaga write a program that will make all of them, index them and have the hex code foreach? Obviously it would be huge, duh. But that would be cool to be the only site in the world with all 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 monochrome 8x8 sprites possible.
We'd just need to get google to index all of http://www.omnimaga.org/web-programming-and-design/8-by-8-sprite-image-from-url/ :trollface:
Logged

THE GAME
Also, check out my website
If OmnomIRC is screwed up, blame me!
Click here to give me an internet!

Offline Streetwalrus

  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3821
  • Rating: +80/-8
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2014, 10:33:45 am »
Indeed. Let's go to Mountain View and sign a contract with them. :trollface:
Logged

Offline Hayleia

  • Programming Absol
  • Coder Of Tomorrow
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3367
  • Rating: +393/-7
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2014, 03:40:41 pm »
Quote from: josh landers on April 30, 2014, 12:55:53 pm
Index of hex codes are the same as a 29991430517935280 worded document
Maybe I don't understand what you mean (because I am French) but I understood this as "Indexing hex numbers is the same as..." but why would one want to index numbers (hex or decimal, they are just numbers) ? Your sprite indexing is just a converter. You give a decimal number, it can convert it to hex and to sprite. You give a hex number it can convert it to decimal and to sprite. You give a sprite it can convert it to hex and decimal.
Logged
I own: 83+ ; 84+SE ; 76.fr ; CX CAS ; Prizm ; 84+CSE
Sorry if I answer with something that seems unrelated, English is not my primary language and I might not have understood well. Sorry if I make English mistakes too.

click here to know where you got your last +1s

Offline willrandship

  • Omnimagus of the Multi-Base.
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2953
  • Rating: +98/-13
  • Insert sugar to begin programming subroutine.
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2014, 05:23:07 pm »
Let me think: 300 DPI on paper that's 8.5"x11" (US Letter Size, same width but shorter than A4 for you metric folks)
300^2 = 90000 Pixels per Square Inch
8*10.5 = 84 Square inches printable per page (approximate, depends on your printer's feed mechanism and print head)
84*2 = 168 Square inches, double sided
90000*168 = 15120000 pixels per paper
15120000/64 = 236250 sprites per paper
2^64/236250 = 78081456396655 papers
assuming 0.000984252 inches thick (.025mm)
0.000984252*8.5*11*78081456396655 = 7185646069593.465 cubic inches of paper
7185646069593.465 / 12^3 = 4158359994 cubic feet of paper
4158359993 / 5280 = 0.028250121258480552 cubic miles of paper

So, in conclusion, probably an obtainable amount of paper, but not a feasible amount as far as cost or indexing goes, and the printer ink will be the main cost anyway.
Logged

Offline Streetwalrus

  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3821
  • Rating: +80/-8
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2014, 05:27:48 pm »
Scale up the sprites and you're doomed. :P
Logged

Offline ordelore

  • LV4 Regular (Next: 200)
  • ****
  • Posts: 168
  • Rating: +7/-0
  • Genius and Friend
    • View Profile
    • ordelore8x
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2014, 05:33:16 pm »
Seems like this could help: http://what-if.xkcd.com/59/
Logged
I am a friend.
I mine Bitcoins.

Offline willrandship

  • Omnimagus of the Multi-Base.
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2953
  • Rating: +98/-13
  • Insert sugar to begin programming subroutine.
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2014, 05:34:26 pm »
The big difference here is that we don't need to worry about updates, but the references on ink usage are quite helpful.
Logged

Offline Eiyeron

  • Urist McEiyolobster
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • **********
  • Posts: 1430
  • Rating: +130/-10
  • (-_(//));
    • View Profile
    • Rétro-Actif : Rétro/Prog/Blog
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2014, 08:31:36 am »
Idea : hash each website and give it an unique sprite.
Logged

Offline Streetwalrus

  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3821
  • Rating: +80/-8
    • View Profile
Re: How many 8x8 sprites are possible?
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2014, 12:58:13 pm »
Ooooh now that sounds like a good idea ! :D
Logged
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Up
« previous next »