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General Discussion => Other Discussions => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Munchor on March 11, 2011, 01:30:27 pm
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I decided to make a topic on this, since we have users from Japan that deserve such topic.
The earthquake was really dangerous and the most violent recorded in the country. The epicentre was 400km far from Tokyo and at least 3 major waves (tsunamis) hit Japan after the earthquake.
I hope everybody you know in Japan is all right. Many countries have already offered help (for example France) to Japan.
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that was good of you to post a topic on this, to inform those who haven't heard.
yes, they say only about 20 have been killed, but I say that's BS, I unfortunately think it's much higher. let's hope it's 20 though.
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according to what i have heard is that there have been killed tens of people and probably more.
and yeah, help is on its way luckily
edit: wasn't it 8.9 in richter scale?
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yeah, 8.9, in the top ten earthquakes in recorded history, right above the one in the 1800's that made the mississippi river flow backwards for 3 days.
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It for sure more than 20, my dad said they found a beach with all bodies, about 300!
EDIT: It says here:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709598 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709598)
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confirmed dead: ~300
missing: don't know yet
I just heard about it. D:
We got a 4.1 earthquake in West TN area about two weeks ago, and theres supposed to be a major earthquake every 200 years on the New Madrid fault, so...
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Darn this is terrible, there were less earthquakes lately but it started again now, and Japan are the unluckiest ones for that due to their location. Their stuff is built to resist to most earthquake but that one was so big and there was the tsunami. I hope the death toll won't rise more. I am sad for everyone who died and those who lost friends and family in that.
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It was magnitude 8.9 I believe, not 8.8.
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I've heard it as both.
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Yeah it's 8.9, also it's now 1000 deaths :/
Btw I heard some Pacific coast locations in USA were hit by the tsunami too.
I would hate to have to go through an Earthquake. On top of that over here we're not as prepared, especially that we don't get big ones normally. Last year there was 5.0 one in Ottawa area and a 4.0 one a few weeks later, close to where I live.
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I've only heard 8.9
This sucks :( I hope not many died, and I really hope the Japanese economy doesn't suffer too badly from this :/
I also hope we didn't lose any users from this as well :(
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Btw I heard some Pacific coast locations in USA were hit by the tsunami too.
Yeah, we have tsunami alerts all over the place :S
But that is huge! Especially when you look at the list of aftershocks (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php). A hundred already, and all around the 4.5-6.5 range.
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Also, this business with the Nuclear Power Plant being affected does not look very good. I'm sure it will be fixed, but personally, I don't like the idea of an earthquake right near a power plant! :(
I do hope all affected peoples by this are ok. :(
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Yeah, this is not good :(
I hope Japan recovers from this.
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Darn I hope things won't get worse. :/
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It's kinda creepy...all of a sudden...
What's really ominous it the san andreas fault is way overdue for its earthquake, there's supposed to be a major one every 100 or so years IIRC
I think it's called loma prieda.
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Yeah true. TO be fair I knew Japan was gonna have a huge earthquake anytime soon or in the next few years, because they didn't have a huge one (by Japan standards) for years. 14 years ago there was a 5.2 earthquake at Cap-Rouge (not too far from here) and while it wasn't strong but the shaking was rather scary. It was worse north of the river, apparently, due to the different type of rock.
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Damn, I have friends in Japan. I hope they're alright. To make things worse, the damn GOP is wanting to cut aid to Japan because they claim "we can't afford it". Japan is one of our best allies imo. >:(
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WUT I just calculated the energy of the earthquake in kWh: turns out to be 3.92371539*10^11 kilowatt hours!!
And HOMER: I hope they are all right...
I also hope that it turns out right with that nuclear plant that is on fire, and that its not gonna be like Chernobyl...
EDIT:
It looks like its turning out well:
'No leakage after Japan nuclear explosion'
Saturday, March 12, 2011 3:13 p.m.
It seems that no leakage occurred in the reactor of the Japanese nuclear power plant Fukushima, 250 kilometers north of Tokyo.
There is probably no radiation released, says the Japanese government
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3:16 p.m. hours: Of about 9,500 inhabitants of the Japanese city Minamisanriku still lacking any trace. It is nearly half the inhabitants of the town.
1:32 p.m. hours: The Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan on Saturday visited the area most affected . Can fly for hours with a helicopter including the nuclear power plant in Fukushima.
12:11 pm: Japanese rescue in the coastal town Rikuzentakata hundreds of corpses found .
11:26 pm: The evacuation area around the power plant has grown from a circle of ten to twenty kilometers of a circle around the plant.
That the Japanese government reported Saturday.
At the nuclear plant was caused by the tsunami an explosion , making the roof and walls of the building collapsed. Several employees were injured.
Radiation
"The nuclear reactor is surrounded by a steel casing, which in turn is surrounded by a concrete building," says a government spokesman.
"The concrete building has collapsed. We find that the steel casing is not exploded. " The housing is designed to in case of incidents that radiation is released .
Saturday Night (Dutch time) it was announced that the reactor might be working on a meltdown. This is the case if the reactor core due to lack of cooling is so hot that it melts into the ground, a nuclear disaster.
Risk
The earthquake is the cooling of the reactor failed, causing the pressure in the reactor increases. If radioactive material released is probably blown out to sea.
Japanese who are around are summoned to remain indoors. Those who do venture out, a wet cloth for his or her mouth.
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The translation is lolly, but I hope that is real and there really isn't any problem with the nuclear plant, I don't want another Chernbyl.
@HOMER: I also wish them good luck.
@HOMER: What is GPO?
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The GOP is the Republican party in the U.S. But lets try not to turn this into a discussion about politics.
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For anyone who's interested/finds this useful: http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/
Apparently it actually works.
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So far everyone I know doesn't think the situation is funny, and I'm glad to know that. Even at the beginning of a Starcraft II semi-finals, one of the commentators said "Okay, so I know we do lots of joking here, but I'm being very serious right now. Japan, we are really sorry about what happened, and we hope things will turn out all right."
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The translation is lolly, but I hope that is real and there really isn't any problem with the nuclear plant, I don't want another Chernbyl.
@HOMER: I also wish them good luck.
@HOMER: What is GPO?
I found out today that he is alright, though due to the powerplant stuff it looks like he's evacuating.
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The GOP is the Republican party in the U.S. But lets try not to turn this into a discussion about politics.
exactly. this is a disaster, a time for helping each other out and rebuilding -- not to argue over whether or not the Republicans are right.
anyways, yeah I believe it's kind of between an 8.8 and an 8.9, so just refer to it as either for now. Also, we can only pray that the list of the dead will stay fixed. The thing is, these tsunamis come in to shore at speeds up to 600 miles per hour -- almost the speed of a simple jet plane, a bullet, speed of sound etc. A 1 foot wave will kill anything in it's way going at that speed. I think Japan's was much slower than that, but the height of it makes it just as devastating.
Also, kinda on topic, apparently the larger the waves, the slower they go. the fastest tsunami was around 3 inches high and went around 750 miles per hour, near India (died out in sea, was detected by instruments) and the highest ever was 1720 feet high (about 700 feet taller than the Eiffel tower, and comparable to the empire state building) in Alaska in the late 1800's, killed no one (though only went about 50 miles per hour)
Anyways, lets hope the best for Japan.
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The GOP is the Republican party in the U.S. But lets try not to turn this into a discussion about politics.
exactly. this is a disaster, a time for helping each other out and rebuilding -- not to argue over whether or not the Republicans are right.
I agree I wasn't trying to start an argument or anything. I just think it's pathetic that we would even consider, no matter what party, not helping Japan to the fullest extent.
(To be clear I'm not trying to say anything political. My reaction would be the same no matter who said it.)
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I never knew that slower tsunamis were bigger, I thought they all went at around 500mph.
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I thought all tsunamis kinda slowed down when arriving. However even the slow ones can be devastating, because the shockwaves caused by the earthquake pushes more and more water behind the first wave and the 2nd wave is pushed by the second, and so on, so the water will not stop moving forward, unlike regular waves.
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800km/h i think it was but it slowed dramatically when it got to land about 50km/h. still disastrous, people had no chance of escaping, combined with the earthquake and 100+ aftershocks, unbelieveable. The satellite footage showed whole cities annhiliated! just a death land or something.
Just one of the many disasters and major events that have occured in 2011: For more go here: http://ourl.ca/9657.new#new
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UPDATE:
Again explosions in Fukushima-I Power Plant. Dangerous radiation is emitted from reactor 2. Temperature in reactors 5 and 6 is raising. People in a range of 20 kilometers are evacuated and people within 30 kilometers have to stay inside. 200,000 people are evacuated earlier.
The most problems are in reactor 2, where an explosion was last night. A very dangerous radiation leak was caused by this explosion.
This explosion was another type than the last two, the reason of this is not clear at the moment. Maybe is there damage at the reactor's pressurizer.
3 reactors are cooled with sea water to avoid a meltdown. According to the Japanese government that goes right so far.
more info at www.bbc.com
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Thats not good. I'm starting to kinda worry for 2012, despite all these jokes... And theres supposed to be a major earthquake on the New Madrid Fault every 200 years...
btw, for the ritcher scale level, its actually ~9.2, but Earthquakes aren't allowed above 9.0, so its official level is 9.0, by the time it reached Japan, they estimate about 8.8-8.9, and they report it as that just to make it look better.
And I agree with all thats been said, I hope Japan recovers and receives as much help if not more than what Haiti received, at least they didn't have a tsunami... And I hope the death toll stops rising...
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From wikipedia:
Maya calender:
Misinterpretation of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar is the basis for a New Age belief that a cataclysm will take place on December 21, 2012. December 21, 2012 is simply the day that the calendar will go to the next baktun.
baktun:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baktun
There's ofcourse always a chance the world ends in 2012, but not for the reasons of the maya.
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The Aztecs predicted their Doom, with Cortez and whatnot. :P
And earthquakes are happening a lot more now...
/me goes off rambling with paranoia...
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Wait, earthquakes are not allowed to be over magnitude 9.0? Why ???
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Actually the Indonesia/Sri Lanka earthquake that caused a tsunami in 2004 and 300000 deaths was 9.5. It just occured in the ocean. Strong earthquakes often occurs underwater. But yeah last year there were lots of Earthquakes. It stopped after this Summer, but then it started again. I hope the nuclear threat in Japan won't get too bad. I think people should really try to find different sources of energy or something, especially with what happened at Chernobyl.
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Wait, earthquakes are not allowed to be over magnitude 9.0? Why ???
people are just afraid to report it like that, from what I've heard.
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Wow, they're taking huge risks to contain the thing: http://www.npr.org/2011/03/18/134665531/nuclear-workers-take-risks-for-the-public-good (http://www.npr.org/2011/03/18/134665531/nuclear-workers-take-risks-for-the-public-good)
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I heard that there will be no way to cool the waste, so they're going to encase it in concrete to prevent leaks instead of trying.
And, from what I heard, they upped it to a 9 after the fact.
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Yeah it seems like they're gonna do like Chernobyl. I hope that thing won't overheat, though, or something else. So far it seems less bad than Chernobyl, but I hope it won't escalate more.
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20 KILLED IS BS its like about 20,000.
but i have no idea why you guys think its such a HUGE disaster!
Look,no offense but its only a tiny bit of people and a pwuny patch of land! there are 109X6 people sot thats bsically some random citty with one person dead in it.
besides supernove explosions blow off 1045 joules of energy or1028x the average atom bomb.
of course no number is big, they are about a gazillion numbers bigger than a googleplex even!
earthquakes do 106 times as mucha a nuke.
and its only humans who died ,and there were going to be gone anyway. they were gone for billions of years before.
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20 KILLED IS BS its like about 20,000.
but i have no idea why you guys think its such a HUGE disaster!
Look,no offense but its only a tiny bit of people and a pwuny patch of land! there are 109X6 people sot thats bsically some random citty with one person dead in it.
besides supernove explosions blow off 1045 joules of energy or1028x the average atom bomb.
of course no number is big, they are about a gazillion numbers bigger than a googleplex even!
earthquakes do 106 times as mucha a nuke.
and its only humans who died ,and there were going to be gone anyway. they were gone for billions of years before.
I find your post extremely offensive to those who are currently suffering in Japan or have family or friends there. I'm asking you to please edit the content of your post and to be more considerate to other people and lives
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Hmm, that was one big troll up there...
Anyway he's gone because he was warned and banned for spamming before (outside randomness) and borderline trollish-ness, and now he spams outside randomness and now this post. He has no interest in contributing anything constructive to the forums and only comes here to post trolls that we can barely even dechiper, kinda like Verdant/Parsimony and Thegame/i am a troll.
Bye bye BOB! (well... until your next account I guess :P)
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BOB!, what if it killed you? Instead of being 104 innocent people, it would just be 100 trolls. That would bring 1028 peace back to this site.
When human life is an issue, one death is too much.
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As much as the loss of life in Japan is, was, and will always be terrible, the immediate casualty caused by the quake and tsunami will not be the end of suffering there if there is a nuclear meltdown. For that reason, I hope God (or whoever they believe in) watches over them.
FYI: Other facts about the quake. It moved Japan by 8ft; sped up the earth's rotation, making days like a microsecond shorter; and I heard once that it actually fractured the tectonic plate that Japan sits on.
[Edit] @Ashbad, we may not like what people say, but we don't have the right to wish evil on them.
[Edit] @BOB, one life lost is a tragedy. Remember that. If a member of your family died, would you be saying "It's only one person" then?
[Edit] I have seen evidence of weird stuff going on all over the world (not just in Japan). I don't know what is going on, but something is happening. I can post evidence (not in this topic, tho).
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20 KILLED IS BS its like about 20,000.
but i have no idea why you guys think its such a HUGE disaster!
Look,no offense but its only a tiny bit of people and a pwuny patch of land! there are 109X6 people sot thats bsically some random citty with one person dead in it.
besides supernove explosions blow off 1045 joules of energy or1028x the average atom bomb.
of course no number is big, they are about a gazillion numbers bigger than a googleplex even!
earthquakes do 106 times as mucha a nuke.
and its only humans who died ,and there were going to be gone anyway. they were gone for billions of years before.
I find your post extremely offensive to those who are currently suffering in Japan or have family or friends there. I'm asking you to please edit the content of your post and to be more considerate to other people and lives
Seconded.
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Not saying I would do it, but trolling does kinda look fun. You get allot of attention :/
As much as the loss of life in Japan is, was, and will always be terrible, the immediate casualty caused by the quake and tsunami will not be the end of suffering there if there is a nuclear meltdown. For that reason, I hope God (or whoever they believe in) watches over them.
FYI: Other facts about the quake. It moved Japan by 8ft; sped up the earth's rotation, making days like a microsecond shorter; and I heard once that it actually fractured the tectonic plate that Japan sits on.
[Edit] @Ashbad, we may not like what people say, but we don't have the right to wish evil on them.
well said.
And Japan, just like the US, has a wide variety of religions.
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Yeah normally people troll for the sole purpose to cause a reaction. Example: Spamming to annoy moderators and give them more work, purposely asking newbie questions that you know the answer off and pretend you don't understand anything and not listen to answers to waste people time in answering, trying to offend other users, wasting their time checking something that isn't what they expect (although this one isn't always meant as a troll and isn't as bad) and trying to instigate a fight between users. In some cases, the troll won't even participate to the fight.
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20 KILLED IS BS its like about 20,000.
but i have no idea why you guys think its such a HUGE disaster!
Look,no offense but its only a tiny bit of people and a pwuny patch of land! there are 109X6 people sot thats bsically some random citty with one person dead in it.
besides supernove explosions blow off 1045 joules of energy or1028x the average atom bomb.
of course no number is big, they are about a gazillion numbers bigger than a googleplex even!
earthquakes do 106 times as mucha a nuke.
and its only humans who died ,and there were going to be gone anyway. they were gone for billions of years before.
uh, is this supposed to make sense? it looks liek you took random words on the topic and put it together XD
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[Edit] I have seen evidence of weird stuff going on all over the world (not just in Japan). I don't know what is going on, but something is happening. I can post evidence (not in this topic, tho).
Anything in there including birds and fish? I have been keeping track of odd things that disappear from the news, too.
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[Edit] I have seen evidence of weird stuff going on all over the world (not just in Japan). I don't know what is going on, but something is happening. I can post evidence (not in this topic, tho).
Anything in there including birds and fish? I have been keeping track of odd things that disappear from the news, too.
We should make a topic about that. Like seriously, the world is getting weird on us again. I'll get the water guns....
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[Edit] I have seen evidence of weird stuff going on all over the world (not just in Japan). I don't know what is going on, but something is happening. I can post evidence (not in this topic, tho).
Anything in there including birds and fish? I have been keeping track of odd things that disappear from the news, too.
We should make a topic about that. Like seriously, the world is getting weird on us again. I'll get the water guns....
Yes. Birds. Fish. Cows. Pillar of fire on the Sinai Peninsula. It goes on.