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mapar007

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Re: Learning new languages (speaken) alone
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2010, 12:55:31 pm »
This might help:

zompist.com/whylang.html (scroll to the bottom)
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Re: Learning new languages (speaken) alone
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2010, 01:12:38 pm »

Notice the space allocated to the text, this is what I mean. Somehow I doubt they can fit an entire word in one character (unless I am misunderstanding the concept japaneese only works by syllables instead of words?)

Oh, no. By syllable, I mean sound. In Korean, a written character is a single syllable of a word - not a whole word. A word usually consists of multiple syllables.

This is an example of a Korean word. The word is "hangul," which describes their writing system. The image outlines each letter that makes up the two syllables of the word. (han-gul)

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Re: Learning new languages (speaken) alone
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2010, 01:25:50 pm »
I Actually found the whole article to be an interesting read. Thanks for the link! =)

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Re: Learning new languages (speaken) alone
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 01:29:54 pm »

Notice the space allocated to the text, this is what I mean. Somehow I doubt they can fit an entire word in one character (unless I am misunderstanding the concept japaneese only works by syllables instead of words?)

Oh, no. By syllable, I mean sound. In Korean, a written character is a single syllable of a word - not a whole word. A word usually consists of multiple syllables.

This is an example of a Korean word. The word is "hangul," which describes their writing system. The image outlines each letter that makes up the two syllables of the word. (han-gul)
aaah ok I see ^^
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Re: Learning new languages (speaken) alone
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2010, 03:24:20 pm »
I Actually found the whole article to be an interesting read. Thanks for the link! =)

This Mark Rosenfelder's whole site has a lot of well-written essays and articles. (+ a whole invented world)

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Re: Learning new languages (speaken) alone
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2010, 10:29:54 pm »
I think Zera pretty much clarified questions by DJ...

Also do you know if the same Korean language is used between both North and South Korea?
And yes, we do use same language, although some vocabularies are a bit different (North Koreans use more of ancient vocabulary from the history, whereas South Koreans use more of modern vocabulary)
we will understand each other without too much problem tho. We were separated for only around 60 years, not too long to separate language apart.

Aaah ok, thanks for clarifying. And yeah I like how they can stack letters together. It can make text much smaller.

Oh also, although the text will be smaller, it won't be hard to read, because there are only 24 basic letters in Korean.
14 consonants and 10 vowels (we consider the 'Y' sound as in "Yes" as vowels)
So even if the text is small, because there are only finite number of combination, and also because you kind of 'know' what the letter should be, there never has been any problem arising from translated games. But I always wonder how Chinese distinguish between so many similar-looking characters (IIRC they have over 70000 characters, although only around 5000 are used in daily life... but still, 5000 )

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Korean in wikipedia article
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