Omnimaga
General Discussion => Other Discussions => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Eeems on March 22, 2011, 01:38:56 am
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http://susegallery.com/a/eCV5Ng/omnimagaos
I decided we needed a linux build dedicated to Omnimaga, so viola OmnimagaOS
I'm not done with it yet, going to work a lot more on making it more tailored to Omnimaga etc by changing stuff around, but some early testing would be nice :)
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Seems pretty nice. Does it will have calc-oriented development tools bundled with it?
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Lol nice, I assume it's based on a distro in particular, right? Do you have any screenshots?
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I do plan on adding TI specific stuff tout eventually, but currently it does not have any TI tools.
It's based in SUSE, and you can testrun it for yourself directly in the browser :) So no I dont have any screenshots yet.
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Cool! If you need any help, just ask me :)
Maybe I'll make a post notifying system for it.
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A good idea would be that it has all calc software installed: tilp, vti?, calcapture...
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Wish I could test drive the OS. Apparently it doesn't respond to my keyboard or my mouse :(
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You can connect via VNC, there is instructions somewhere.
Also I'll be happy to help if you want.
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Oh nice. I didn't realize we could test in browsers. We need to sign up, though.
EDIT: Uhm it doesn't even work. It says Flash is uninstalled or a Firewall is blocking something, even though I got Flash installed and my Firewall disabled. Also is there any place where I can test it without having to sign up on VMware or something?
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How do I download?
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Awesome, I just set up a multiboot flash drive today XD
EDIT: Darn, out of room.
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I think Eeems should provide a mirror or something or a video of it running, because it's a major PITA to setup. First, the Suse site is horrendously slow, secondly it forces you to login. Third the browser testing doesn't work (tried in Firefox and Opera) and fourth, VMware was a major PITA to download due to requiring logging in too.
UPDATE: Why do I need to login on the Suse thing? What is the login/password? Or is that it and there's nothing else further? :/
If I encounter another wall during trying this, I assure you I stop now. Make this less complicated for the people who are curious, assuming it's not just command console-based.
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Yeah you have to log in to download. I will begin mirroring it when I get it to a place where I think it should be usable to everybody
Attached is where the different types of downloads are.
I'm probably going to use Gnome as the desktop manager, and some of the default stuff, but a post notifier sounds great :D
Also I intend to install emulators, compilers etc.
I intend to make this the perfect OS for developing for Omnimaga related projects ( So TI, Casio etc ).
Any suggestions on what software I should install, and maybe some tutorials on how to?
EDIT: DJ the username is Omnimaga and the password is rocks
I still haven't been able to get past the agreement part myself with the flash things so I'm not sure yet. I will be downloading and testing the vmware copy though myself so I'll let you guys know how that goes.
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When I have more time, I'll put it in my USB Drive and install it, is it 64bits or 32bits?
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Just to let you guys all know, most of the information you need as to what is installed, what it's based off of, and what architecture is on the page I linked to in the first post.
It is 32bit for compatibility with most computers still out there ( and because I can't virtualize a 64 bit on my lappy atm :P )
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Ok thanks for the info.
Btw if it's 32 bits will it still work on a 64 bit system?
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Yes it will.
Most cpu's are 64bit nowadays but they still support lower architecture.
In windows task manager there ( at least there use to be ) an option that would hide 16bit tasks interestingly enough.
Since 64bit is just twice the size of 32bit, it's pretty easy to work in a 32bit manner :)
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Ok thanks for the info. That reminds me, I had a CD of Windows 98 somewhere. I should maybe give this a try in VMware if I can get an image on my old computer just for fun...
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Haha, you probably could :P
I myself have installed 98SE on a virtual machine just for kicks once actually :)
I'm right in the middle of converting the virtual machine over to something I can use with VirtualBox so I can test it.
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I once downloaded Ubuntu 32BIT and tried installing it on my 64bit and it didn't work :S
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That's probably due to the memory issues, not the actual code. I also had a strange occurence where a now-deprecated version of the linux kernel in 32 bit would not see my hard drive, except from a liveCD :P not kidding. It gave so many boot errors. 64 bit didn't have this problem, nor did anything in an i686 optimised build
You didn't include TilP?!?!?
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As I've mentioned before, I intend too, I just haven't gotten around to adding it all yet.
EDIT: I seem to be not able to boot the OS on a virtual disk because it's missing things. I guess I'm going to have to copy it onto my usb and run from that.
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Yeah, I found out it won't work because my CPU doesn't support PAE. So, awesome. I'm going to try downloading/burning for my other computer.
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Yeah, I found out it won't work because my CPU doesn't support PAE. So, awesome. I'm going to try downloading/burning for my other computer.
PAE same here :(
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Yeah, I found out it won't work because my CPU doesn't support PAE. So, awesome. I'm going to try downloading/burning for my other computer.
PAE same here :(
Hm. Well, it's obviously the kernel you are using that's the problem, but PAE should run fine on my CPU.
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Yeah, I found out it won't work because my CPU doesn't support PAE. So, awesome. I'm going to try downloading/burning for my other computer.
PAE same here :(
Hm. Well, it's obviously the kernel you are using that's the problem, but PAE should run fine on my CPU.
Apparently, although I don't know why this would happen.
I myself use the most recent linux kernel (albeit the ubuntu branch) with no problems. I guess I'll have to rebuild this and see if I can fix it or something.
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Yeah, I found out it won't work because my CPU doesn't support PAE. So, awesome. I'm going to try downloading/burning for my other computer.
PAE same here :(
Hm. Well, it's obviously the kernel you are using that's the problem, but PAE should run fine on my CPU.
Apparently, although I don't know why this would happen.
I myself use the most recent linux kernel (albeit the ubuntu branch) with no problems. I guess I'll have to rebuild this and see if I can fix it or something.
Strange. Both Ubuntu PAEs work on my computer. (Desktop and Server)
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I actually went past the agreement thing with alt-Y and things like that, then tried to start X, but it isn't even installed...
Also, I could make a version based on Ubuntu or Arch Linux with all the tools preinstalled (will be somewhat harder though).
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Weird indeed. I shouldn't have a prob. with it, since I only have 1 G of ram :P
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Ah ok, I thought x was installed. apparently things aren't showing up correctly I guess...strange.
A Ubuntu based version would be great Juju :)
I used the attached image for the logo if you want to use it at all.
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Found these useful tutorials:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
I'll try to make something out of this on my next free time.
Now we need a list of programs to include...
BTW I made this png. Could be useful.
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Wouldn't it be best to use the logo in my sig? Although it's not as smooth, it's the original version of the Feb 2004 logo. Or does it absolutely need to be scaled up?
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Oh, completely forgot you have one like this in your sig :|
Well, depends where you want to put the logo, in which context. Sometimes you need a tiny one while you need a bigger one somewhere else, such as a wallpaper or something.
The smaller one could do well for a 32x32 while I could use the favicon for the 16x16 one.
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Hmm list of stuff we should have installed.
Firefox, Thunderbird, TiLP2, WINE, nspire emulator, all other emulators for TI that work, IRC client, some sort of dev environment for z80, a post notifier, more?
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Xchat, irssi (both defaulting to EFNet), some sort of dev environment for nspire (nspire-gcc?) and 68k, wxWabbitemu, Tilem and some sort of text editor/IDE that works with them.
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Hmm list of stuff we should have installed.
Firefox, Thunderbird, TiLP2, WINE, nspire emulator, all other emulators for TI that work, IRC client, some sort of dev environment for z80, a post notifier, more?
Chrome and maybe Wine.
Eclipse due to C compatibilities (for the NSpire and 68K).
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Hmm list of stuff we should have installed.
Firefox, Thunderbird, TiLP2, WINE, nspire emulator, all other emulators for TI that work, IRC client, some sort of dev environment for z80, a post notifier, more?
How about Chrome instead of Firefox, as Scout suggested? It's a lot smaller. And don't forget TilEm.
And gedit with a Z80 scheme :D (http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=633)
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Hmm list of stuff we should have installed.
Firefox, Thunderbird, TiLP2, WINE, nspire emulator, all other emulators for TI that work, IRC client, some sort of dev environment for z80, a post notifier, more?
How about Chrome instead of Firefox, as Scout suggested? It's a lot smaller. And don't forget TilEm.
And gedit with a Z80 scheme :D (http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=633)
Maybe when I release Assemblex (it's Python) it could be included too.
I prefer Chrome, but I have both. So I suggest both.
What about Internet Explorer?
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Don't forget gfm (group file manager)!
I don't know if we should include wine, it just takes more space, and without it people would make more native applications.
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I would say go with Firefox, ( It is a linux default for many Distro's after all :P ) and let the people install Chrome if they want it.
Maybe even just have a custom application that will let you choose from all available browsers and then installs it for you?
...and maybe Wine...
I did say wine ;)
Eclipse due to C compatibilities (for the NSpire and 68K).
Hmm, and if someone could develop a eclipse plugin specifically for TI development that would make it even better :PXchat, irssi (both defaulting to EFNet), some sort of dev environment for nspire (nspire-gcc?) and 68k, wxWabbitemu, Tilem and some sort of text editor/IDE that works with them.
I guess X-Chat because it's what most people use in the linux community, and it does work pretty well.
irssi would be great too for the more advanced users who want to use console stuff :P
wxWabbitemu requires a lot more work still, but when it's done it would be a great addition.
And gedit with a Z80 scheme :D (http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=633)
Sounds like a great plan :)
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Wine is needed @jimbauwens
The installation dialog is cool (For browsers, let us choose at the beginning of the istallation)
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Wine only works on 64-bit hardware, right?
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Not at all, it works perfectly on 32 bit systems.
@Scout, well, not for me :)
But thats only me :p
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Not at all, it works perfectly on 32 bit systems.
@Scout, well, not for me :)
But thats only me :p
A lot of pure UNIX users hate Wine, but since I understand >60% of the planet uses Windows, I understand its power-
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I don't hate wine, sometimes use it myself, but must it be installed by default in this distro?
Most calculator programs have a Linux port, or something alike.
The only program I haven't found (but I haven't really looked) a version for Linux is CalcCapture.
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I don't hate wine, sometimes use it myself, but must it be installed by default in this distro?
Most calculator programs have a Linux port, or something alike.
The only program I haven't found (but I haven't really looked) a version for Linux is CalcCapture.
If you don't want it, just uninstall it.
And due to most people using windows, it is a good idea to have it installed. Also, the nspire emulator's linux companion isn't up to date enough to work well, so it's best to use the wine version.
Most TI things don't have much linux support, except for TiLP2 so it's best to make this OS give you as many options as possible.
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If you don't want it, just uninstall it.
And due to most people using windows, it is a good idea to have it installed. Also, the nspire emulator's linux companion isn't up to date enough to work well, so it's best to use the wine version.
Most TI things don't have much linux support, except for TiLP2 so it's best to make this OS give you as many options as possible.
Oh, ok. I don't know much about the nspire stuff, so I'll let you guys decide about that.
Also, the nspire reminds me about casio calcs. Maybe you could include some software those calculators?
I don't know much about these calcs either, just giving some ideas :)
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ExtendeD used DevC++ for C in the NSpire.
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I actually think DevC++ is actually a very nice tool for C/C++ development, it's extremely lightweight and powerful!
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I actually think DevC++ is actually a very nice tool for C/C++ development, it's extremely lightweight and powerful!
Could you (and everyone else who is requesting files) please post links to them so we can try them out?
Also, what are the minimum system requirements of OmnimagaOS? I'd like to see if I can run this thing in DOSbox, or off of my flash drive.
Oh, and it would be really cool if the interface could be ported to calc. :D
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I'm adding Mono to the software list so tiDE will work ;)
Also, I know Suse is KDE by default, will a Gnome version be available?
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Actually I was planning on gnome in the first place :P
I think we are going to switch to Juju doing something though :P
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I thought of something more lightweight than GNOME, but stil GNOME-ish, such as LXDE, if we want to run it on old computers. But still, it will depend of if we want to run it on old computers or not. If not, I'll pick GNOME for sure.
@Sir: TiDE must not depend on Windows DLLs if we want to make it work with Mono. I didn't looked at it since a while (sorry...), is it still the case?
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juju, that is the case, but it shouldn't be a big problem in the long run.
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lxde still has some issues, I think Gnome would be the best bet and an in between for all other choices so people can switch it up if they want afterwords.
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*bump*
Ok, so I found out why I can't boot it. It seems that in order to use PAE you have to enable it in your emulator. In Oracle VM Virtualbox (or just VirtualBox) after you import the machine (convert it with tools and stuff) and add the vdi to a machine, right click on the machine, Settings>System>CPU (or processor) and check the pae option.
Still don't know if it runs, need to re-download it and convert it to test.
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Wish I could work on this, I keep trying to find a "template" for a Linux build with GNOME and the basic packages, but I'm having a hard time with finding out how to organize the files into an install/live CD. I can work on the graphics to make a custom theme for the bundled WM.
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So I've picked up working on a Arch version of this, got it booting off of a 8GB USB and I'm going to build it from there :)
EDIT: Screenshot of me working on it :)
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That looks nice. This background definitively fits nicely for a desktop wallpaper :D
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Greattt :D What's the "Windows" menu for though?
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Greattt :D What's the "Windows" menu for though?
It's all the programs ("windows") running at the time, most likely.
And the OS so far looks really cool. If I had a larger flash drive, I'd use it.
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lxde still has some issues, I think Gnome would be the best bet and an in between for all other choices so people can switch it up if they want afterwords.
LXDE's interface is buggy sometimes.
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Go for GNOME, definetely, but 2.x.
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Go for GNOME, definetely, but 2.x.
I like gnome when enough power is availible, but I tend to go for FluxBox.
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I'm going to go for Gnome3 and if anybody doens't like gnome-shell (which there will be a bunch of you) I'm going to probably have fallback enabled by default.
Ok, I've been working on the actual OS itself, and I have a bootable iso now :) It boots up and everything :D
Right now it's very basic and I don't have any of the software that the OS I'm developing it in (which is going to be the template) has yet except for some basics.
If Anybody wants the iso's let me know and I'll start uploading all the stable versions I have somewhere.
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GNOME 2 please :P
Either way, it's good enough to be GNOME, nice job Eeems :)
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I'll take a copy of the ISO. How large is it. I would liek it to fit onto one of my cheep 700mb disks uinstead of the more expensive 2.5 gb disks
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I'll take a copy of the ISO. How large is it. I would liek it to fit onto one of my cheep 700mb disks uinstead of the more expensive 2.5 gb disks
Well when it's done it should be able to fit with some room. Right now, without anything other then the most basic stuff it's ~150MB
I'll build you a copy if you want to run it from a virtual machine or something :)
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I'll gladly try this out. I like trying out different distros
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I feel really un-savvy asking this, but can you load an OS from a flash drive?
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use unetbootin and you should be able to load it if you have the iso
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And it wouldn't damage the OS that is installed on the computer?
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nope you can go into bios and tell it to load from it and your comp's current OS will be almost 100% safe. The only danger would be if you went crazy and tried to delete everything. that is possible
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Wow... in that case, I'd also appreciate it if an ISO was put up somewhere.
PS- Thank you, ruler501.
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that will work with any ISO image pianoman.
hopefully we'll have an iso posted here soon.
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Got to fix a few things that I accidentally broke while trying to rearrange my stuff to save space, but as soon as I do I'll post an iso for you to use :) Keep in mind at this stange you wont get anything other then a command line with really basic stuff.
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Sorry about the doublepost, but I thought this was bump worthy.
First successful boot into gnome today, both in an emulator and off of a usb stick. We have liftoff :D I can now start work on adding in important packages, customizing the graphics and more :)
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Liftoff (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sweetbroandhellajeff/?cid=025.jpg) you say? Awesome.
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Liftoff (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sweetbroandhellajeff/?cid=025.jpg) you say? Awesome.
Exactly! I'm also going to add compat-wireless to the OS so it's super simple for first time users to set it up on computers that need wireless support.
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Eeems, can I have a sort of list of pre-included software?
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my current list of packages:
aufs2
aufs2-util
bash
coreutils
cpio
dhcpcd
dnsutils
file
fuse
kernel26
syslinux
nano
alsa-utils
alsa-oss
xorg
xorg-server
xorg-xinit
xterm
xorg-utils
xorg-server-utils
gnome
gnome-utils
gdm
dbus
hal
networkmanager
network-manager-applet
gedit
gnome-system-monitor
gnome-nettool
sudo
mcryptI also have a modified version of chatzilla installed (so it will work with xulrunner2.0 which is installed with gnome) for irc.
I'm almost ready to release a very early iso of it but that might have to wait for the weekend.
Right now the default password for root and omni (The default user) is omnimaga, and I haven't made an installation system for this yet, but meh, I'll figure that out eventually.
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my current list of packages:
aufs2
aufs2-util
bash
coreutils
cpio
dhcpcd
dnsutils
file
fuse
kernel26
syslinux
nano
alsa-utils
alsa-oss
xorg
xorg-server
xorg-xinit
xterm
xorg-utils
xorg-server-utils
gnome
gnome-utils
gdm
dbus
hal
networkmanager
network-manager-applet
gedit
gnome-system-monitor
gnome-nettool
sudo
mcryptI also have a modified version of chatzilla installed (so it will work with xulrunner2.0 which is installed with gnome) for irc.
I'm almost ready to release a very early iso of it but that might have to wait for the weekend.
Right now the default password for root and omni (The default user) is omnimaga, and I haven't made an installation system for this yet, but meh, I'll figure that out eventually.
Where's gcc and bison?
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my current list of packages:
aufs2
aufs2-util
bash
coreutils
cpio
dhcpcd
dnsutils
file
fuse
kernel26
syslinux
nano
alsa-utils
alsa-oss
xorg
xorg-server
xorg-xinit
xterm
xorg-utils
xorg-server-utils
gnome
gnome-utils
gdm
dbus
hal
networkmanager
network-manager-applet
gedit
gnome-system-monitor
gnome-nettool
sudo
mcryptI also have a modified version of chatzilla installed (so it will work with xulrunner2.0 which is installed with gnome) for irc.
I'm almost ready to release a very early iso of it but that might have to wait for the weekend.
Right now the default password for root and omni (The default user) is omnimaga, and I haven't made an installation system for this yet, but meh, I'll figure that out eventually.
Where's gcc and bison?
gcc is part of base, which is also installed. Arch linux has gcc on it by default and bison can be installed later if you really want it.
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So I've picked up working on a Arch version of this, got it booting off of a 8GB USB and I'm going to build it from there :)
EDIT: Screenshot of me working on it :)
Whoa awesome! Kinda reminds me of Exposé + the Dock -- I love it :D
EDIT: Two pages late.
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So I've picked up working on a Arch version of this, got it booting off of a 8GB USB and I'm going to build it from there :)
EDIT: Screenshot of me working on it :)
Whoa awesome! Kinda reminds me of Exposé + the Dock -- I love it :D
EDIT: Two pages late.
lol, I'm just using Gnome 3 :P
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i heard gnome 3 was pretty buggy. Why not use Gnome 2 and add an update with the official release of gnome 3 bug free(It is beta isn't it)
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i heard gnome 3 was pretty buggy. Why not use Gnome 2 and add an update with the official release of gnome 3 bug free(It is beta isn't it)
Well gnome 2 is no longer in the Arch Repositories, I'd have to do some pretty intense scripting to make the install of it into my build directory automated, and it would make it take a lot longer :/
gnome 3 isn't so bad (I've been running it the whole time I've been making this) so I'm pretty sure it wont die on everybody.
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I'm just going off what I read/hear on linuxmint chat/help(I here a lot) and talking to friends
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Ah ok.
I am almost ready to release a very early alpha. So basically all this has installed is some of the basic gnome software and a few other things. The current package list is as follows ( Not including all the dependencies of course )# Core Packages
aufs2
aufs2-util
bash
binutils
bzip2
coreutils
cpio
cronie
cryptsetup
dash
dbus
device-mapper
dhcpcd
dnsutils
diffutils
e2fsprogs
file
findutils
fuse
gawk
gcc-libs
gettext
glibc
grep
grub
gzip
hal
heirloom-mailx
initscripts
iputils
jfsutils
kernel26
less
libpipeline
licenses
logrotate
lvm2
man-db
man-pages
mdadm
mcrypt
nano
net-tools
pacman
pciutils
pcmciautils
perl
ppp
procps
psmisc
reiserfsprogs
sed
shadow
sudo
sysfsutils
syslog-ng
sysvinit
syslinux
tar
tcp_wrappers
texinfo
udev
usbutils
util-linux
wget
which
wpa_supplicant
xfsprogs
# Alsa
alsa-utils
alsa-oss
# Xorg
xorg
xorg-server
xorg-xinit
xterm
xorg-utils
xorg-server-utils
# Gnome
gnome
gnome-utils
gnome-settings-daemon-updates
gnome-system-monitor
gnome-nettool
gdm
gedit
# Network Tools
networkmanager
network-manager-applet
# Software Managment
gnome-packagekit
My own custom chatzilla mod is installed as well ( runnable by chatzilla from the command line ( or alt-f2 ) ).
Users:
root
omni
both have the same password:
omnimaga
I believe that I successfully set fallback as the default, but it might still default to gnome-shell. I also tried to get the icons to display by default, but I'm still having issues with that :/
I'll upload the iso as soon as I make sure it's still stable. Be warned that this is still early alpha, and it is just a live cd iso atm, it would be best to either dd it onto a usb drive, or boot onto a virtual machine with it instead of putting it on a cd to make a live cd.
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WOOO!
i'm not sure if i'm willing to make this my primary OS just yet, but it's still exciting XD
good luck eeems; i'll be here to help with testing things, as always.
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Well I wouldn't recommend it until later on in development anyways :P
Thanks :D well feel free to test this one out :)
http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/myarch-2011.05.27-i686.iso
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Nice Eeems. I'll try it out.
Also mirror: http://files.julosoft.net/omnimagaos/omnimagaos-2011.05.27-i686.iso
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Nice Eeems. I'll try it out.
Also mirror: http://files.julosoft.net/omnimagaos/omnimagaos-2011.05.27-i686.iso
Thanks a bunch!
Also, if anybody wants to mirror the package database I'm going to make for this ( for custom themes and chatzilla etc ) let me know.
[omni]
Server = http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni
Only chatzilla is up right now, I'll add the themes as I make them.
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Its a lot bigger now Eeems. I'll be trying it out soon
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Its a lot bigger now Eeems. I'll be trying it out soon
Yep, after adding X and Gnome it gained a lot of weight.
http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/myarch-2011.05.28-i686.iso is currently being uploaded. It contains compat-wireless-patched from the AUR and I have also included chatzilla as a package now. I'm going to probably make it so chatzilla shows up in the main menu as well later. After I fix the current package.
I forgot to add a modification to chatzilla atm, so to get it to run you need to edit /opt/xulrunner/chatzilla/application.ini so that the max version is 2.* instead of 1.9.* and then it will work.
EDIT: uploaded fixed chatzilla package.
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Is chatzilla basically the same as XChat?
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Is chatzilla basically the same as XChat?
No, it's an IRC client built on the xul framework ( Same thing as Firefox ).
http://bit.ly/j0jWkA for a better explanation.
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Ipersonally really like XChat.
DO I need to make the disk size bigger for OmniOS to run this? 256mb seems too small
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Mirror done:
http://files.julosoft.net/omnimagaos/omnimagaos-2011.05.28-i686.iso
And add this to /etc/pacman.conf:
[omni]
Server = http://withg.us.to/eeems/$repo
Server = http://repo.julosoft.net/$repo/os/$arch
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I'm having a slight problem
[15:22:42] <ruler501> No DEFAULT or UI configuration found.
[15:23:01] <ruler501> I have it set up to load from disk first and the desk is the download rom your post
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Ipersonally really like XChat.
DO I need to make the disk size bigger for OmniOS to run this? 256mb seems too small
if you are going to boot the iso then the disk size shouldn't be an issue ( I'm going to need to help you make it into swap space eventually though :P )I'm having a slight problem
[15:22:42] <ruler501> No DEFAULT or UI configuration found.
[15:23:01] <ruler501> I have it set up to load from disk first and the desk is the download rom your post
maybe a corrupt download? It works fine on my end.
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I'll try again
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md5 checksums:
7290aa6d2d7e1c409fb85fec4b311816 myarch-2011.05.27-i686.iso
4e1a3b78811c81b0be7559a34a91e168 myarch-2011.05.28-i686.iso
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I'm using the 5.28 version its definitely not working. md5 sum is wrong.My download is almost done so I'll see if it was just a bad download.
EDIT:download done md5sum 4e1a3b78811c81b0be7559a34a91e168 seems to be the same will tell you if this one works
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Ok, that's what it most likely was.
EDIT: Get the latest from here (along with the .md5) http://files.julosoft.net/omnimagaos/ it will remain updated
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Latest build: http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/myarch-2011.05.29-i686.iso
md5 checksum: 62882ec21ed0cb15451b6954152dd2af
Will be finished uploading in ~30 minutes from the time of this post Finished Uploading
This version has little changed other then some backend things you wont be able to see and chatzilla is now installed correctly ( newest version of the package ) which give you an menu option for it, and it actually works now.
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Latest build: http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/myarch-2011.05.29-i686.iso
md5 checksum: 62882ec21ed0cb15451b6954152dd2af
Will be finished uploading in ~30 minutes from the time of this post Finished Uploading
This version has little changed other then some backend things you wont be able to see and chatzilla is now installed correctly ( newest version of the package ) which give you an menu option for it, and it actually works now.
Oooh, when can I Omnimaga-fy the UI?
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Latest build: http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/myarch-2011.05.29-i686.iso
md5 checksum: 62882ec21ed0cb15451b6954152dd2af
Will be finished uploading in ~30 minutes from the time of this post Finished Uploading
This version has little changed other then some backend things you wont be able to see and chatzilla is now installed correctly ( newest version of the package ) which give you an menu option for it, and it actually works now.
Will be finished downloading 6 minutes from the time of this post.
EDIT: finished the download a few minutes ago and now am going to start testing if the md5sum matches
EDIT2:md5sum: 62882ec21ed0cb15451b6954152dd2af
yay its the same
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Oooh, when can I Omnimaga-fy the UI?
Actually, I've already got that in the works :)
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Btw when trying this in VMware what are the recommended settings? Also is it supposed to error on loading Gnome 3? I also wonder if the desktop background is supposed to be a blue one with different vertical shades of blue or the Omnimaga bg? ???
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i got an error loading gnome 3 under virtual box as well. it looks nice, though
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Talking about themes, will you also implement a theme looking like the v2, v3 and v4 Omnimaga themes? That would be nice to have as option. I think v2.5 might look too bland, though.
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/\/\ooh, do want/\/\
seconded =D
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The gnome fallback error is expected from virtualBox. I don't think he's omnified it yet so no omni bg.
He told me to use 256mb for memory and other/unknown for OS. I have tweaked that little making more memory but stayed the same on OS
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i got an error loading gnome 3 under virtual box as well. it looks nice, though
Yeah, VirtualBox can't boot into the full version of Gnome 3 so instead you always go into fallback.Talking about themes, will you also implement a theme looking like the v2, v3 and v4 Omnimaga themes? That would be nice to have as option. I think v2.5 might look too bland, though.
I might eventually, I first have to get it to accept my theme as the default x.x Gnome 3 is so under documented....He told me to use 256mb for memory and other/unknown for OS. I have tweaked that little making more memory but stayed the same on OS
and a simple 256mb vdi could also be made (make sure to partition it into linux swap with some other boot disk that has a partitioner (or whatever it's called) so you can use it for swapspace)
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Alright, double post I know :P
new screenshot of today's build running. I got it to display icons by default now, as well as changed the background in a non-hacky way :D
EDIT: and if anybody notices something strange about this picture compared to the other ones I'll give them a cookie :P
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Well, this is nice, can't wait to try it on a real computer, maybe tonight.
Also are you running OmniOS in a VM in OmniOS?
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Well, this is nice, can't wait to try it on a real computer, maybe tonight.
Also are you running OmniOS in a VM in OmniOS?
Lol, not I'm running it in VM in my Arch dev environment, which happens to look a lot like it :P
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Ah ok.
... and that desktop switcher? How did you did that?
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... and that desktop switcher? How did you did that?
gnome-shell-extension-dock
I still don't know if I like it
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Not the dock. The desktop switcher thing at the bottom.
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Not the dock. The desktop switcher thing at the bottom.
That is Gnome 3's fallback
EDIT: And I got the login screen to work too :)
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Awesome :D
Also is it possible to make it say something else than 'myarch' and 'myhost'?
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Oooh, when can I Omnimaga-fy the UI?
Actually, I've already got that in the works :)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Also is it possible to make it say something else than 'myarch' and 'myhost'?
Yep, just haven't gotten around to it yet, I'll do it right now though :)Oooh, when can I Omnimaga-fy the UI?
Actually, I've already got that in the works :)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
believe me it's super hard to do with gnome 3 x.x Took me forever searching the net before I figured out how to change the default background for stuff.
EDIT: And since I found out about how gnome 3 uses javascript for the desktop :P (attached image)
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Oh nice Javascript :D
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Oh nice Javascript :D
If you like that you are going to love this :)
Keep in mind they are still a tad buggy but they will be great when development on them is done :)
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OH GOD EEEMS I LOVE YOU (no homo) :D
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OH GOD EEEMS I LOVE YOU (no homo) :D
glad you liked it ;P
Next release will have this installed by default :)
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Nice! Can't wait!
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Nice! Can't wait!
I am currently running it now, and after one small modification I am going to upload the iso for you all to enjoy :)
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Sorry about yet another doublepost :P
Currently uploading eta Done
Link: http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/myarch-2011.05.29-2-i686.iso
Md5 Checksum: c07c7994bb0a1be92e10adc49ba0e7b4
What's new:- TiLP installed ( Needs to be run by sudo from the command line unfortunately for now ).
- Applications menu
- Very basic Mount menu ( will be replaced in the next release )
- Some small back-end stuff
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I like how it looks like with the Omni background in the screenshot on page 8. Since the top is black, it makes it blend with the taskbar.
Also I wonder... if it comes with TiLP, can I use it from VMware without getting rid of my TI-Connect? O.O
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I like how it looks like with the Omni background in the screenshot on page 8. Since the top is black, it makes it blend with the taskbar.
Yeah, you can select themes now, but by default it's still the darker theme
Also I wonder... if it comes with TiLP, can I use it from VMware without getting rid of my TI-Connect? O.O
I would expect so
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Oh I really meant the dark theme in http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7235.0;attach=7949;image
Unless you mean there's an even darker one now?
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This operating system looks AMAZING for schooling, Eeems, :w00t: and I've been an avid user of Ubuntu for many years. I was just wondering if it would be possible to run the OS directly from the USB/CD without installation (similar to Ububtu's LiveCD), so as to use it with school or work restrictions in place. The inclusion of that many amazing programs inbuilt (Wine, OpenOffice.org, ChatZilla, TI Tools?) is just pure win, beats the [insert profanity here] out of any mainstream distros I know.
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This swill work perfectly from a CD/USB
EDIT:Also I wonder... if it comes with TiLP, can I use it from VMware without getting rid of my TI-Connect? O.O
Wouldn't you have to set up the VMware to use the port you plugged your calc into?
EDIT2: sorry about the double post.
EDIT3:fixed it now
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EDIT3:Fixed it now copied my post to above
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@DJ: that is the default theme, but yes, there will be darker and lighter themes, and when I get around to it, a special omnimaga theme as well ( which will be default )
This swill work perfectly from a CD/USB
EDIT:Also I wonder... if it comes with TiLP, can I use it from VMware without getting rid of my TI-Connect? O.O
Wouldn't you have to set up the VMware to use the port you plugged your calc into?
EDIT2: sorry about the double post.
EDIT3:fixed it now
you would just pass on the USB device.
This operating system looks AMAZING for schooling, Eeems, :w00t: and I've been an avid user of Ubuntu for many years. I was just wondering if it would be possible to run the OS directly from the USB/CD without installation (similar to Ububtu's LiveCD), so as to use it with school or work restrictions in place. The inclusion of that many amazing programs inbuilt (Wine, OpenOffice.org, ChatZilla, TI Tools?) is just pure win, beats the [insert profanity here] out of any mainstream distros I know.
thanks! My main goal for this is to actually make it installable later, but a live cd is just as good :) I really hope it lives up to this praise and I develop it more, since there is more yet to add to it :)
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Alright some updates, I haven't actually done anything to the os since yesterday, but I have been working on an extension for it, a post notifier :) So far I just have the framework in place, but nothing for getting/parsing the xml and then showing the newest posts, but here is how it looks :)
( Notice how I accidentally left the code I was working on in it up in the background :P )
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Accidentally left it up right ;)
I am no longer leet :(
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That theme is awesome!
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Accidentally left it up right ;)
I actually did x.x I didn't notice until after I took the screenshot x.x
I am no longer leet :(
Were you ever really leet? Or is there no spoon?
EDIT: ninja'd :P
That theme is awesome!
Thanks! Guess what is the best part, it's in JavaScript! My favourite scripting language :P
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Accidentally left it up right ;)
I actually did x.x I didn't notice until after I took the screenshot x.x
Strange coincidence... I understand though I've done things like that before
I am no longer leet :(
Were you ever really leet? Or is there no spoon?
I have teh screenshot. what spoon?
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I think he was referring to a leet spoon:
(http://www.antiquecupboard.com/SilverDBImages/ack1337.JPG)
haha that was funny :]
(I actually don't get the joke, sorry Eeems, either it's too sophisticated for me or I'm just tired or it's an inside joke that you accidentally forgot was an inside joke :P)
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I think he was referring to a leet spoon:
(http://www.antiquecupboard.com/SilverDBImages/ack1337.JPG)
haha that was funny :]
(I actually don't get the joke, sorry Eeems, either it's too sophisticated for me or I'm just tired or it's an inside joke that you accidentally forgot was an inside joke :P)
Lol, no it wasn't that.
I was making a Matrix reference.
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I think he was referring to a leet spoon:
(http://www.antiquecupboard.com/SilverDBImages/ack1337.JPG)
haha that was funny :]
(I actually don't get the joke, sorry Eeems, either it's too sophisticated for me or I'm just tired or it's an inside joke that you accidentally forgot was an inside joke :P)
Lol, no it wasn't that.
I was making a Matrix reference.
That explains why I didn't know it. I've never seen the matrix and don't know much about it except for the purple powder...
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I was making a Matrix reference.
(Pause)
I GET IT!!! :P
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Made some progress, almost got it to the point that it will report posts,
I ran into a problem where gjs doesn't have any libraries for xml ( well there is libxml2 but I can't make heads or tail over how it's suppose to be used, and I think it's just a dummy entry for now ) so I was able to get something that will convert it into json for me so I can use it ( http://www.blastcasta.com/convert-feed-to-json.aspx which gives me http://www.poweringnews.com/feed-to-json.aspx?feedurl=http%3A//www.omnimaga.org/%3Faction%3D.xml%3Btype%3Drss ) so now I can load the json and figure out if there are new posts :D
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It reports posts from the forums? O.O
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It reports posts from the forums? O.O
*notify you of new posts :)
Sorry about that
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Yeah that's what I meant :P
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Yeah that's what I meant :P
:)
Almost at a usable state, just got to get it to loop :D
EDIT: And it is now usable :) Not perfect though, but currently it is set to refresh every 1 minute ( I'm going to increase the default ( it was just that for testing ) ) and then I'm going to work on adding the settings menu, but that will be tomorrow :)
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Ah ok, but does it load the site to scan new posts? It would probably be good that it doesn't eat too much bandwidth x.x
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It uses the sites rss feed so it doesn't load as much as other methods.
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Firefox 4 looks great on it :D
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Can you set it up so we can ignore specific parts of omni like randomness axe etc
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Firefox 4 looks great on it :D
It does doesn't it :)Can you set it up so we can ignore specific parts of omni like randomness axe etc
that would require a lot more coding to do more parsing then just a simple date check. I could probably do it though.
On that note, I've been using this thing for a while now, and it works great :) Just got to tune it a little so that instead of only notifying you of the latest post it notifies you of all the latest posts that you missed.
( Oh and I added the ability to disable it )
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It might be good to add that to make this a more useful tool
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It might be good to add that to make this a more useful tool
It wont be too hard to do what I talked about, although ignoring is a lot harder
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So you can set it up so it won't notify you if the post is in any sections you say you don't want to see
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So you can set it up so it won't notify you if the post is in any sections you say you don't want to see
Most likely, but I'm not sure at the moment how exactly how I would handle it.
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If you can that would be a great feature to have
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Firefox 4 looks great on it :D
It does doesn't it :)
Speaking of which -- what's that theme you're using?
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Firefox 4 looks great on it :D
It does doesn't it :)
Speaking of which -- what's that theme you're using?
just some random persona
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Er, the GNOME theme. It looks awesome.
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Er, the GNOME theme. It looks awesome.
Oh, which one? Mainly I use the default since user-themes doesn't play nice with other extensions
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You spammer. jk
/me also wonders if as sample game included with the OS, Eeems could include a port from the Visual Basic 6.0 Illusiat 5 and Reign of Legends 0 :P
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You spammer. jk
/me also wonders if as sample game included with the OS, Eeems could include a port from the Visual Basic 6.0 Illusiat 5 and Reign of Legends 0 :P
Hmm, whatever do you mean? :P
Lol, well if it could be compiled in a way that would work on linux I could :)
Also my xml to json converter is no longer online it seems :/ http://www.poweringnews.com/feed-to-json.aspx?feedurl=http%3A//www.omnimaga.org/index.php%3Faction%3D.xml%3Bsa%3Drecent%3Blimit%3D10%3Btype%3Drss
I can't access it at all :/
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Works for me. :D
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I can see whats at teh link
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I can see whats at teh link
well it's really extremely unstable on my end now :/ Issues with the DNS I think, but I found a better solution in terms of stability https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/services/feed/load?v=1.0&q=http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=.xml;sa=recent;limit=10;type=rss
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I mean http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=139 and http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=140 .
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I mean http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=139 and http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=140 .
Hmm, well if I can get it to work under linux I just might include them :)
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Those would have to be ported since no M$ visual basic in linux :P
we might be able to do it with minimum source code changes or in wine/mono. Do you still have the source?
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spammer Eeems. Is it working?
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spammer Eems. Is it working?
Just tried to make it notify you on all new posts since the time you get on, and it's giving me grief :/
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Hope you get it working correctly.
How big do you think this will be when its done?
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Not that large, right now it's only 6.8KB
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I meant the entire OS. I want to know how much space I need to save for it
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I meant the entire OS. I want to know how much space I need to save for it
Oh, well the current size of the iso is ~440MB so you will need probably around two GB to be safe ( my current build directory ( as in what is compressed into the iso, not the files that define how it is built ) is 1.8GB )
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so leaving a 4gb partition for / would be a safe bet?
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so leaving a 4gb partition for / would be a safe bet?
That should be great for it :)
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I'll probably have a 10-15gb aprtition for /home/
EDIT:what should they be formatted as ext2/3/4
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I'll probably have a 10-15gb aprtition for /home/
EDIT:what should they be formatted as ext2/3/4
I would probably say 4 since it is the best ;) I use 4 myself when I can
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Good thats what I have for everything except my LFs work which is ext3 like it said to use
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Good thats what I have for everything except my LFs work which is ext3 like it said to use
Ok, sounds good
oh, and TEST!
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lol Eeems. I'll expect that this be done when I get back from Louisiana on the 25th. Not to put any pressure on you
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I mean http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=139 and http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=140 .
Hmm, well if I can get it to work under linux I just might include them :)
Good luck, on Windows you need to buy ANIGIF.OCX for $30 I think and for the ROL game you also need DAXCTLE.OCX. The game will not run under Windows 7 64 Bit. I have no problem in XP, though. I am unsure about Linux :P
Not a big deal, though. I just got the idea since Windows comes with some games too and the two games above are Omnimaga games :P (although they aren't that great, lol)
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We could create some new omni games. I'll gladly add my secret project to it when its done
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lol Eeems. I'll expect that this be done when I get back from Louisiana on the 25th. Not to put any pressure on you
lol erm....well you see, I have Diploma Exams in a couple of weeks so I'm pretty sure this wont be done :P
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Well, GNOME already comes with some puzzles. Also Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzle Collection is interesting too. And also Minecraft.
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Well, GNOME already comes with some puzzles. Also Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzle Collection is interesting too. And also Minecraft.
I'm thinking that we should probably not package any game other then maybe DJ's to save size, they can be installed afterwords by the user if they want them.
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Probably. GNOME games might be already installed by default and Simon Tatham's puzzles doesn't really take much space I think. And you probably need Wine and a couple of PITA-to-install components to run DJ's games. Hm, I'll test.
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Probably. GNOME games might be already installed by default and Simon Tatham's puzzles doesn't really take much space I think. And you probably need Wine and a couple of PITA-to-install components to run DJ's games. Hm, I'll test.
They aren't actually, they are part of the gnome-extra package, which I do not have installed.
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Ah ok. Also shipping ANIGIF.OCX with OmniOS might not be great idea, since it's proprietary and it costs 45$ to register it.
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Ah ok. Also shipping ANIGIF.OCX with OmniOS might not be great idea, since it's proprietary and it costs 45$ to register it.
Yeah, we can't really do that can we :P
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Nope, if you want to release the distro as GPL or something, that or find an open source version of the OCXs or make DJ_O rewrite Illusiat 5/ROL 0.
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Nope, if you want to release the distro as GPL or something, that or find an open source version of the OCXs or make DJ_O rewrite Illusiat 5/ROL 0.
Yeah, this is going to be GPL so we will have to look I guess.
Also finally got this fixed after the issues with the old feed to json site and google ( which stopped updating and just gave me a cache it looks like :/ ) by making my own php script to convert it for me http://omnimaga.org/feedToJson.php which also gives it to me in a smaller size with just the information I want :)
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Yeah, better do your own stuff yourself I guess.
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Yeah, better do your own stuff yourself I guess.
yeah :/
Oh well, I got it working great now :)
If you have Gnome 3 installed and want to give it a try ( Keep in mind it might just possible cause gnome to crash, so sorry if it does ) and you are not running in fallback mode extract this to either /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ or ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
EDIT: here are some screenshots of it in action :)
EDIT2: also, just so you know, you can clear the whole list by right clicking on the PostNotifier thing on the bottom right and clicking remove, I've set it up so that it clears all of them for you :) Still need to figure out what I should do with open...maybe open them all? This also will notify you on the last ten posts, so if there has been more then 10 posts since it last checked it will not notice unfortunately, if you want to increase the number, or decrease it change the const LIMIT = 10; to some other number
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Awesome :D
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Just include Wabbitemu and a few calc games. It'll take much less space. :P
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lol Eeems. I'll expect that this be done when I get back from Louisiana on the 25th. Not to put any pressure on you
lol erm....well you see, I have Diploma Exams in a couple of weeks so I'm pretty sure this wont be done :P
Dang Well I could hope right. What about by July 10th
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Just include Wabbitemu and a few calc games. It'll take much less space. :P
haha, I'm going to include wavbit, the user will have to supply roms/content though :)lol Eeems. I'll expect that this be done when I get back from Louisiana on the 25th. Not to put any pressure on you
lol erm....well you see, I have Diploma Exams in a couple of weeks so I'm pretty sure this wont be done :P
Dang Well I could hope right. What about by July 10th
I have no set timeframe in mind ATM. It could take weeks, or it could take months. I will be releasing updates along the way though so you can always have the most recent version.
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OK I hoped, but my dreams have been shattered :( lol
This looks like it should turn out great
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....What VM are you using?
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VirualBox for me
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....What VM are you using?
Oracle's VirtualBox.OK I hoped, but my dreams have been shattered :( lol
This looks like it should turn out great
Lol, I never set time limits on myself for programming :P
Thanks, I'm expecting it to be pretty great myself :)
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I occasionally will add time limits, but only for projects I have announced and have people expecting them
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Just wondering what the criteria needed to run the OS through LiveCD are, as opposed to running through an emulator such as VMware which does most of the work.
I've tried running it on both my desktop and various laptops, but they all seem to be "trapped" in a very quasi-DOS environment, lacking of a GUI. After selecting to run OmnimagaOS at the menu and being taken to the usual loading screen, a DOS EULA followed by black screen is all I am able to view. :( I am asked and able to login to a text based environment, without even a hint of GNOME (although it seems to be asking me to type something) but that's all. Would this be an xserver fault, or is my hardware unable to support the OS at all.
EDIT: I have been able to run Ubuntu for quite some time, I'm not sure if this is relevant though.
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For the Illusiat/ROL games, I actually meant rewriting the entire game in a OmnimagaOS-compatible programming language. :P However, testing the originals to see how they are requires you the OCX files in the first place D:
I guess maybe we should forget about those games, lol.
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Just wondering what the criteria needed to run the OS through LiveCD are, as opposed to running through an emulator such as VMware which does most of the work.
I've tried running it on both my desktop and various laptops, but they all seem to be "trapped" in a very quasi-DOS environment, lacking of a GUI. After selecting to run OmnimagaOS at the menu and being taken to the usual loading screen, a DOS EULA followed by black screen is all I am able to view. :( I am asked and able to login to a text based environment, without even a hint of GNOME (although it seems to be asking me to type something) but that's all. Would this be an xserver fault, or is my hardware unable to support the OS at all.
EDIT: I have been able to run Ubuntu for quite some time, I'm not sure if this is relevant though.
You seem to be using the very first version of it. I would recommend using http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/myarch-2011.05.29-2-i686.iso instead as it is the most recent version and it is arch based. You are using the first version which was SUSE based and completely unstable.
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Thanks Eeems, you're absolutely right. I had accidentally downloaded the original as per the first post by mistake; now on my way to downloading the latest arch based ISO. ;D(http://www.omnimaga.org/Themes/default/images/gpbp_arrow_up.gif)
EDIT: By the way, just wondering if Arch would be compatible with either Debian/Ubuntu or Fedora/openSUSE packages natively; WINE, for example, does not list Arch one of its supported OSes (although I believe wine is, or was, inbuilt) although I'm fairly sure this won't be a problem at all.
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I'm pretty sure wine works with Arch since they were talking about including it
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Wine indeed works fine on Arch.
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Arch has a large selection of packages in it's repositories, and if it isn't there you can always build from source. So pretty much everything that works on Debian/Ubuntu or Fedora/openSUSE will work on Arch if it is compiled for it.
I've been focusing on working on the settings so you can change the interval between checks on PostNotifier.
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double post, yet again :P
http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/iso/ has all the iso's, and if you looks closely you will see one with today's timestamp and if you refresh you will see it's size slowly growing :)
http://withg.us.to/eeems/omni/iso/myarch-2011.06.04-i686.iso
newest iso on the upload with the most recent copy of Post Notifier and little else in the line of changes.
And for those of you who want the post notifier in your full OS, I attached a zip with it in there :)
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Will that post notifier work with the default Desktop for Mint 11?
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Is it GNOME 3? The post notifier works with it.
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Linux Mint 11 uses Gnome 2.x.
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I gues sI'll wait for Sir's to come out