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General Discussion => Other Discussions => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Juju on May 02, 2011, 12:54:57 am
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(http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/rosama.jpg)
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I lol'd.
But good hes dead in all seriousness.
Too bad the 9999999999999fb posts didnt tell me that too. lol
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Breaking news, this is.
Interesting. I shall see today what others make of it.
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My US history teacher is going to have a field day with this tomorrow...
Also people in the class, half of them are obsessed with whatever the latest FPS is (cod/halo/whatever) and this is a lot like those games apparently...small group of people going in by helicopter and kill the bad guy in a dramatic firefight :P
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Darn that's sure gonna be a huge discussion topic on the internet in the next month, and the result of many new memes.
I am glad they got him, assuming they caught the right person, not a similar looking one.
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This is one of those times that I wish I was taking a history course :/ This is going to be a really interesting topic that I will be able to share with my children in the future :)
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DJ, apparently they tested his DNA against his sister's (who is also dead) and they seemed to be siblings, so presumably it's the man himself.
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I think May 1st, 2011 is the day Barack Obama won the game.
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Unfortunately Obama did not reveal the true methods used to bring Osama to justice. Luckily I have them here ;)
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/0-image002.jpg)
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DJ, apparently they tested his DNA against his sister's (who is also dead) and they seemed to be siblings, so presumably it's the man himself.
He had 50something siblings.
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Unfortunately Obama did not reveal the true methods used to bring Osama to justice. Luckily I have them here ;)
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/0-image002.jpg)
Lolwat? O.O
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I lol'd :P
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How can you make jokes? How can you say 'I'm glad they got him'???
The KILLED him! Isn't it immorral?
I wouldn't mind if they put him in prison or so, but killing?
And I can't understand that you can laugh with this...
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He was the mastermind behind an attack that killed almost 3,000 Americans, that's why they're excited.
I do agree, though, I would have rather seen him stand trial.
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He did terrible things. Many people hate him deeply. Laughter is an expression of joy. People don't laugh necessarily because they think it is funny, per se, but they laugh because it's a release of all the stress. Yes, it is immoral that Osama Bil Laden was killed, but that could be argued against as well. I apologize if you feel offended by other people laughing at this incident, but it's a really big thing for many, many people. I, personally, am neither laughing nor jumping for joy. Though, I am not mourning this occasion either. I am happy, though not because he is now dead. I am relieved that the whole fiasco is finally over. No laughter. No cheers. No jokes. Just a sigh of relief.
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He was the mastermind behind an attack that killed almost 3,000 Americans, that's why they're excited.
I do agree, though, I would have rather seen him stand trial.
They GUESS And THINK it was him on 9/11 , but I once saw a documentaire showing that it could alll be set up; Bush might havd known!
Ofcourse this is seriously debatable, and might stay a mystery forever.
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They GUESS And THINK it was him on 9/11 , but I once saw a documentaire showing that it could alll be set up; Bush might havd known!
Ofcourse this is seriously debatable, and might stay a mystery forever.
Personally, I wouldn't give those conspiracy theories a second thought. They're little better than the theorists who claim that the lunar landings were staged, or who claimed that Oswald didn't kill JFK.
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Well, I would.
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Why would you? What good would it do for Bush to have planned the whole thing? Why would he want to kill 3,000 of his own people? It did no good for the country in ANY way, and there was nothing to even slightly suggest that it MIGHT have done anything good for the country. Seriously, I don't care how many conspiracy theories you throw at me, there are stronger explanations against each claim than there are supporting each claim. If you really believe that Bush set the whole thing up, then I feel very sorry for you.
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ZippyDee, he is entitled to think what he wants about it; no need to get harsh.
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I am kinda glad I have an AP test today and will be missing a double period of my history class today, as my teacher will probably go on and on about this! :)
Seriously though, I am happy that the United States was finally able to bring some justice to the families of those who were killed at 9/11.
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I am merely arguing against it. He can think what he wants. I won't stop him. I just think it's a ridiculous idea altogether. I'm sorry.
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Wait, he seriously died?
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Wait, he seriously died?
Yeah, the US army killed him.
I saw this on the news earlier today, less a terrorist to kill :P
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This is good news for the war on terrorism
Even though this won't seriously affect any terrorist organizations. It really is only a psychological victory.
It sends the message to them that If you make the US mad we will get you it might take us 10 years but we will get you
EDIT:I heard that he was fighting back to prevent capture. If he was shooting at the soldiers it really wasn't an amoral thing for him to die.
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If this is true, it is good news indeed. I'll wait until I hear more details until I make my judgment.
@Stefan Bauwens: Generally people are happy when terrorists, mass murderers and people with no regard for human life (including those of their followers/allies) are dead. Bin Laden was all of these things. In the grand scheme of things though I suppose it doesn't really matter, as there are and always will be more people like him unfortunately. :(
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Also people in the class, half of them are obsessed with whatever the latest FPS is (cod/halo/whatever) and this is a lot like those games apparently...small group of people going in by helicopter and kill the bad guy in a dramatic firefight :P
Sounds like my school :P
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Well yes, they got him, they killed him, which is somewhat immoral, but considering he killed like 3000 americans and authored one of the worst terrorist attack and the most memorable one, well, that's better than nothing, that's why people around the world rejoice of his death. Of course I would prefer he gets at least a trial before he gets killed.
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America's excuse(This is justa joke):
-"Well, we tried to, but he had da bullet stuck in his head."
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How can you make jokes? How can you say 'I'm glad they got him'???
The KILLED him! Isn't it immorral?
I wouldn't mind if they put him in prison or so, but killing?
And I can't understand that you can laugh with this...
This. I'm absolutely horrified that people are cheering in the thousands that he's dead, from a moral standpoint. Okay, yes, this mean it may save others, and even make some families who suffered from 9/11 feel some closure, but still. He is was a human being. I'm relieved he's dead, but I'm also sad and I pray for him. Not even he should burn in the eternal froth of hell.
However, I can't say this is a bad day, though. While I think it's wrong to cheer he's dead, I think it's more appropriate to cheer that 'Al-Quieda is soon a-gonna crumble'. Just my thoughts.
NETHAM: IT WAZ ALL STAGED WHAT U TLAKIGN 'BOUT
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Ashbad, I hope you're right. But I fear that Osama was good at recruiting and his death will allow his generals or other higher command to make him into a martyr, which could make him even influential in death than in life.
Also, people are cheering because he was responsible for some horrific acts. That doesn't make it okay to cheer for his death, but some people disagree.
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Enjoy. I don't own this. I just thought it was hilarious.
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I'm not saying that it wasn't Osama who was responsible for 9/11, I just don't know it. There isn't real proof(that I'm aware of) that Osama did it. It might be that Bush was responsible for this, and his plan was to find a reason to have war. But I truly don't know the truth.
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I hope this thread doesn't turn into a conspiracy thread or something, but personally, it has been so long since the 9/11 attacks that regardless of if Osama is dead or not, I doubt this will make any differences at this point, as there are most likely a lot of other people who did or will replace him. ALso people are happy he is dead because he was involved in 9/11 and/or threatened USA a lot in videos afterward.
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I'm not saying that it wasn't Osama who was responsible for 9/11, I just don't know it. There isn't real proof(that I'm aware of) that Osama did it. It might be that Bush was responsible for this, and his plan was to find a reason to have war. But I truly don't know the truth.
To tell the truth, I'm not quite sure I buy that one -- I DO believe it was the mafia who killed JFK and probably not Lee Harry Oswald, but I doubt Bush would have anything to do with the setup of 9/11 -- He may be a little bit stupid at times, but you can't say that he wasn't patriotic and that he didn't have good intentions. Trust me, if anything he wanted to find a reason NOT to have a war. A war never looks good on a president's portfolio.
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Yeah, neither the war in Afghanistan or in Irak looked good in Bush's portfolio.
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I'm not saying that it wasn't Osama who was responsible for 9/11, I just don't know it. There isn't real proof(that I'm aware of) that Osama did it. It might be that Bush was responsible for this, and his plan was to find a reason to have war. But I truly don't know the truth.
To tell the truth, I'm not quite sure I buy that one -- I DO believe it was the mafia who killed JFK and probably not Lee Harry Oswald, but I doubt Bush would have anything to do with the setup of 9/11 -- He may be a little bit stupid at times, but you can't say that he wasn't patriotic and that he didn't have good intentions. Trust me, if anything he wanted to find a reason NOT to have a war. A war never looks good on a president's portfolio.
This is exactly my point as well. I am fine with the idea that maybe Osama wasn't responsible, but I am telling you there is certainly no good reason why Bush would want to do such a thing to his own country. As Ashbad said, Bush may have been stupid at times, but he was certainly patriotic. Planning this attack would not have helped his ratings in the least -.- (They certainly could have used some assistance, that's for sure)
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And I'm sure that with all the technology police, FBI and other groups use to investigate, that they would have managed to find out a long time ago.
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It's interesting to see the mainstream media pretty much admitting that somebody needed killing, which they so rarely do. Usually they croon over how "justice has been served" when a murderer gets a 10 year sentence (of which he will end up serving 5, because prison is expensive), and ignore inconvenient facts like the high probability of recidivism.
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I am, quite frankly, very happy he is dead, numerous of my friends were scarred because they had parent(s) who died on 9/11 and, actually, about a week before the attack I VISITED the twin towers, if these people decided to attack a few days before... well... I probably would not be even making this post.... This man killed thousands just because he dislikes our ways, I do hope he does burn in hell, and (willing) members of Al-Quieda follow him.
btw, he was given a choice if to come nicely, or be shot... well, I think we can see the choice, he chose to die D:
Stephan, I am afraid your statements are getting a thumbs down from me, sorry :( Bush, or any US offical, being in charge or knowing about the attacks beforehand is as believable as Osama owning snapple imao :D
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/rumors.asp
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I love how people who don't agree with our views like to rate us down *(^~^)-^
btw, he was given a choice if to come nicely, or be shot... well, I think we can see the choice, he chose to die D:
Well that was obviously gonna happen, if we got him he would probably go to some torture site, I would do the same thing :P better a shot in the head than 1000 hours of being waterboarded -- and unlike most people we torture, few would protest his punishment.
I'm very sorry to hear about your friend's losses, I wish them the best of luck dealing with it. However, sentencing someone to hell shouldn't be taken lightly, IMHO.
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Ashbad, I rated you down because you were trying to start conspiracies with Stefan in the thread and trying to start a fight against those who are happy a terrorist is dead and won't risk causing more trouble. Also you are attacking me for rating down your post. Trust me but your hidden message was easy to see:
I love how people who don't agree with our views like to rate us down *(^~^)-^ I personally find that quite lame, and childlike, but oh well, your choice, not mine.
Personally when he died, I was not happy that he was dead, but rather that there is one less terrorist in the world.
Btw just to show how bad the 9/11 events were for people, they even got a front page news article on ticalc.org back in the days. I think that was the only time ticalc.org posted a non-calc/ticalc related news article on their site that wasn't a fake news:
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/5/52/52963.html
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I was trying to start conspiracies? O.o I don't remember that, I know stefan stated some though, and I only posted what were my own opinions, without jabbing at others' opinions. but fine, I understand.
I agree though, I don't like to think someone died, but it is nice there is one less terrorist in the world, hard to argue that.
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It seemed like you were trying to imply that the conspiracies were right and side with stefan views that Bush was the one responsible for 9/11, then you attacked people who made jokes about Bin Laden death, even though 3000 people died due to him. It's obvious that with his death, people suddently release a lot of tension in the heat of the moment, and in most cases, it was done with jokes, trying to start internet memes and celebrating in the streets. I am sure a lot of people thought about the 3000 people that died when they heard about the death, then had a moment of joy.
The thing is that vengeance is part of human nature. Although it might sound wrong, it's obvious that when someone kills 3000 people in your country, even worse when there are family members among them, you'll want that murderer/terrorist to know the same fate as them.
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/me doesn't exactly like the direction this thread appears to be headed...
How about we all agree that no matter what our feelings about Bin Laden's death, it's over and with any luck, the war will be soon.
EDIT: Equalized the respect. As it stands, no one on this page of the thread had their respect changed by this page. If you disagree with my opposite voting, please say so.
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Yeah I would prefer that this doesn't head into the conspiracy crap that goes on on Youtube all the time. It will just start fights and it's insulting to those who lost close people.
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It seemed like you were trying to imply that the conspiracies were right and side with stefan views that Bush was the one responsible for 9/11, then you attacked people who made jokes about Bin Laden death, even though 3000 people died due to him. It's obvious that with his death, people suddently release a lot of tension in the heat of the moment, and in most cases, it was done with jokes, trying to start internet memes and celebrating in the streets. I am sure a lot of people thought about the 3000 people that died when they heard about the death, then had a moment of joy.
The thing is that vengeance is part of human nature. Although it might sound wrong, it's obvious that when someone kills 3000 people in your country, even worse when there are family members among them, you'll want that murderer/terrorist to know the same fate as them.
this
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I'm worried Al-Qaeda might retaliate. And I'm going to D.C. on Thursday, so I'm slightly worried about an attack... :P
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The upped security should deter them.
they most likely will not be able to get off a big attack soon. Those take planning. Now if you look 2-5 months from now its a different story.
So unless they were planning an attack for soon one shouldn't happen. We might have a few small attacks soon though. those would probably be by people or cells acting on there own for revenge. those would be relatively small attacks(I hope)
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relevant:
(http://i.imgur.com/IDsF2.gif)
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Did he really kick that door open?
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at least bin ladin can't lose the game anymore!
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Also relevant
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friend sent me this.
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relevant:
(http://i.imgur.com/IDsF2.gif)
You can tell it's an SNL skit because of the NBC logo in the bottom :P
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0.o
And it's all over google too..
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well, as the president the first thing I do is KICK THE DOOR DOWN <Like a boss!>
slighty related: (osama is mentioned a bit)
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It seemed like you were trying to imply that the conspiracies were right and side with stefan views that Bush was the one responsible for 9/11, then you attacked people who made jokes about Bin Laden death, even though 3000 people died due to him. It's obvious that with his death, people suddently release a lot of tension in the heat of the moment, and in most cases, it was done with jokes, trying to start internet memes and celebrating in the streets. I am sure a lot of people thought about the 3000 people that died when they heard about the death, then had a moment of joy.
The thing is that vengeance is part of human nature. Although it might sound wrong, it's obvious that when someone kills 3000 people in your country, even worse when there are family members among them, you'll want that murderer/terrorist to know the same fate as them.
sorry if I sounded rude :( thing is, even my dad admits that "if he's going to heaven, then we can do anything we want -- we'll all get in." I personally still don't buy that, but I do get your points DJ, and sorry if I offended anyone. No intention to do so was meant ;)
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at least bin ladin can't lose the game anymore!
Darmnit I lost too x.x
And it's ok Ashbad, we just need to be careful, especially online, since there is a wider range of people with different views and beliefs.
Back on the terrorism issue, I am kinda worried too that terrorists might try to retaliate against Bin Laden death, especially since 500 talibans escaped from jail recently.
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I'm afraid that the terrorists will crumble and lose the little honor they had (well, at least they didn't nuke DC yet :P) and do an "anything goes, or rather blown up" offensive :(
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Yeah true. That said, a lot of them have poor technology and stuff so the only damage they could do directly are people blowing planes and the like, and now security is much higher anyway so they could be countered easier. Besides that, however, I kinda fear for the troops in Afganistan, Lybia and Iraq.
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Well, I would.
So I get lowered in respect just because I consider something?
Nice, I can't even have an opinion. Cya in a few days, after I chilled down a bit.
EDIT: I don't really think it was Bush, It's just that I don't know if we'll ever know if it was really Osama. Also, Osama was killed because he was a murderer? Well, that makes OBama also one, don't forget that. They're both guilty of the same crime: Murder.
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Well, I would.
So I get lowered in respect just because I consider something?
Nice, I can't even have an opinion. Cya in a few days, after I chilled down a bit.
I gotta agree with him, he just had an opinion. You may have not agreed with it, but that's no reason to rate him down.
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THe problem is not his opinion but rather how it was said. In his early post he blatantly attacks those who suffered or were terrorized by Osama actions and threats because they laughed about the man's death. Trust me, Osama threatened Canada too and I was slightly worried when taking the city buses afterward. They may have killed someone now, but the fact is that this person was a threat for humanity and even in Jail it would still have been a threat, as he could have easily escaped, probably with the help of some of his allies.
You might have the right to believe killing him was wrong anyway, but badmouthing people who thinks otherwise because justice was done in their view wasn't any better than your whining about the post rating system. Also the starting of conspiracy theories in this thread was inevitably a fight starter, which you should have known before posting about it.
You were not rated down for having a different opinion. You were rated down because of the way you stated it, for trying to start fights with your conspiracy theories (which are very offensive and disrespectful to 911 victims/relatives of victims/scared people, by the way) and now you were rated down again for trying to start another fight by accusing people of rating you down for having a different opinion.
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I'm locking this topic so stuff doesn't get more out of hand.
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Is there a reason to keep this thread stickied?
Just wanna check before I unsticky it.
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Unstickied.