Post by: necro on October 03, 2005, 03:08:00 pm
yep...france rocks...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 03, 2005, 03:20:00 pm
Post by: tifreak on October 04, 2005, 02:19:00 am
Post by: dysfunction on October 04, 2005, 07:11:00 am
Post by: tifreak on October 04, 2005, 07:31:00 am
And I was raised that way. :)
I do have different theories about the bible and God though. I might delve into that later...
Post by: CDI on October 04, 2005, 11:07:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 06, 2005, 03:11:00 pm
I guess it's because ppl here spend most of their time programming or playing video games, rather than discussing those things
Post by: tifreak on October 07, 2005, 02:15:00 am
Also, I will start up a very interesting topic for you guys to read, later today. :)
Post by: Ranman on October 07, 2005, 03:19:00 am
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| yup. I am even takin a break from programming for a few days to play a game I have had for over a year and haven't touched. :) Also, I will start up a very interesting topic for you guys to read, later today. :) |
Please note that tifreak8x reached 500 posts at 8:15 am on the 7th day of October in the year 2005.
It is amazing that one book with so many inspired writers, written over such a large span of time, remains so consistent in its message:
1. Someone is coming...
2. Someone has come...
3. Someone is coming again :D
Praise the Lord the God of our salvation!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 07, 2005, 03:50:00 am
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O_O
*Kevin
Post by: tifreak on October 07, 2005, 07:20:00 am
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| It is amazing that one book with so many inspired writers, written over such a large span of time, remains so consistent in its message: 1. Someone is coming... 2. Someone has come... 3. Someone is coming again Post by: greenorange on October 08, 2005, 02:01:00 am
Post by: necro on October 08, 2005, 03:46:00 am and the bible is not consistant it goes from: "God the Punisher" to "God the Mysterious" to "God the Savior"... :ph43r:  any ways, if the bible is literal in genisis, must it be in Job to? Post by: MathStuf on October 08, 2005, 05:41:00 am Post by: tifreak on October 08, 2005, 05:56:00 am Post by: dysfunction on October 08, 2005, 09:30:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 08, 2005, 09:41:00 am
Post by: Ranman on October 08, 2005, 12:56:00 pm I used to drink, smoke, chew tobacco, and anything else bad for you... I probably did it. Jesus has changed my life for the better. I wonder if I would still be here today if it was not for the grace of God. I hope that I am not judged for that... I hope nobody is judged for what they believe. :) And... I hope this thread does not get out of hand. Now everybody get back to coding. :woot: 
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 08, 2005, 01:01:00 pm anyway if this topic would get out of hand I know what to do :laugh:  (this didnt really happened before here since this forum opened)
Post by: tifreak on October 08, 2005, 01:39:00 pm And no, I haven't met any personally, though my grandpa died, I know he is still around, watching. When he visited, he always brought his own coffee, with special stuff in it that gave it a particular flavor. He also always took his trash with him, he never left it here. Every now and then, I catch a hint of that coffee and his presence. Whether you believe in them or not, spirits are real. THAT has been proven. Post by: necro on October 09, 2005, 03:36:00 am
wow, that is the exact opposite of me...I used to cut (mutulation), drink, ect. Most notably, I am not as afraid of dying since I became aethist. You won't exist to know your dead, so it realy won't matter by the time it happens. It being that simple, you don't have to worry about "what if I am wrong and I wasted my life" and all that stuff. And spirits are...well, I would say I am not so sure they don't exist as my old house had some weird stuff happen (it was haunted me and my sister think) but wether that is godly or not is a totaly diffrent question... Post by: dysfunction on October 09, 2005, 06:32:00 am @necro: that's interesting that your fear of death has gone since bceoming atheist. I became much more afraid of death when I finally admitted to myself that, in all likelihood, that was it. It's not an idea humans like to think about... and therefore were so egocentric that we made up religion to convince ourselves it wasn't that way. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 09, 2005, 08:49:00 am Post by: mdjenkins86 on October 09, 2005, 09:41:00 am just kidding...but seriously I think that any affilation that practices sweeping exclusion based on opinion is bad for society. Post by: tifreak on October 09, 2005, 01:14:00 pm I feel the main reason people fear death is because our mind can't understand not being able to open our eyes, move our bodies, etc. As it has been said, humans fear things they don't understand, and death is one thing we don't completely comprehend... Post by: necro on October 09, 2005, 01:33:00 pm
that is the whole thing thougj, as an committed aethiest, I know I am just plain and simply going to die. That is that, no hell, no heavon, just infinity. In having something I could so thouroughly believe, death became a non-factor of life and I don't think about it. It was like this when I was christian: will heaven be nice, will I go to hell, what if death is the end, what if hindu's were right, what about muslims...question after question to dwell and worry about Now: I die, that is that. No pain, no question, nothing but an ending...and nothing to do about it either...so who cares, live what time you have Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 09, 2005, 01:40:00 pm
Post by: tifreak on October 09, 2005, 04:04:00 pm
Maybe it isn't an end, but another leg of your journey? :) Won't know till we get there... Post by: Ranman on October 10, 2005, 02:02:00 am
Wouldn't it be a tragedy if it was true (heaven), and some people did not believe? I would not want to go to the other place of eternal torment. Post by: MathStuf on October 10, 2005, 02:30:00 am Post by: Ranman on October 10, 2005, 02:44:00 am
Very good point. We have to stick to what the Bible says. We cannot add any human reasoning to it. The Bible was written with an "original intent"... meaning it cannot have 500 different meanings from 500 different people. Many of us like to think this is true. We tend to think, "I believe this scripture means this." When, it is quite possible, it means something completely different. It is our job to seek the original intent and not what we want it to be. Always question what you believe and be open to other interpretations or rebuttal. This will only help you to grow. Always continue to search for the truth. Can this be done perfectly? Probably not. But, we should do our best. That is what is expected of us. Post by: necro on October 10, 2005, 07:10:00 am
You do know the torah makes no mention of an after life, don't you? Heaven and hell are concepts of the new testemant. Post by: DarkAuron on October 10, 2005, 11:12:00 am We only have one life. We should make the best of what we have until we die. Not be goody-goody so we can earn eternal life in prosperity. That's just silly IMO, but I'm not gonna down anyone that believes that. Immortality defies the cycle of life. So why should we have more than one life? When we die, we become one with the universe again. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. So why would there be something waiting for us after we die? Thinking that life will be perfect in an afterlife if you do good all your life is, again in my opinion, a childish fantasy that will never happen. Religion helps give many people hope. Even though I believe them to be false hopes, it still keeps people going. Often the side effects can be a bit.. annoying. Beliefs that shut out others because of taboo and such. I think that any judgemental beliefs supported by religion is supported by a bad religion. Sure, nothing is perfect, and there are many flaws, but there are several religions that I almost hate. So what keeps me going? If I believe that theres nothing at all after we die, and that seemingly my 'life' is basically worth nothing once I die, why do I bother living? Why don't I just end it now? Well, because once I die, I'm not capable of enjoying anything. And I like to enjoy things. I do good in my life because I don't want other people to suffer for my actions, to ruin their lives. That's something I couldn't forgive myself if I ever did something to hurt another person intentionally. That's where respect comes in. You respect others because they too have lives they life, troubles they deal with. You should respect the fact that they put time into their beliefs, their ideals. You shouldn't *ever* judge another person because in reality you're not better than another person. You might have a higher social rank, but that doesn't make you better than them. What makes a person better is the care for others and yourself. Often however, it's a rarity in life to find someone that truly does such a thing. Post by: Ranman on October 10, 2005, 01:21:00 pm
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