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Title: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 14, 2010, 02:46:53 pm
Just so you know, SirCmpwn parents are on another crusade to ruin his life and blocked Omni again, so he migth not be on for a while until they stop censoring him
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 14, 2010, 02:53:20 pm
Not again... poor SirCmpwn... :(
Edit: Galandros is right. Subject line changed.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Galandros on June 14, 2010, 02:57:25 pm
You should not give those names or adjectives to his parents. Do not loose your temper with this situation.
Because that makes loose respect and if we had reason we will not have some count by his parents after this.

I really don't understand why they are blocking only websites either. If he was spending really too much time with his hobby and affecting his real life, it would be a hard but good in overall decision.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Raylin on June 14, 2010, 03:02:36 pm
I like the part where he proxies his way into Omni.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Deep Toaster on June 14, 2010, 04:37:20 pm
Poor SirCmpwn... hope he can get back soon. Can't wait for more updates :)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: ztrumpet on June 14, 2010, 05:48:31 pm
Poor SirCmpwn.  Sir, I've really started looking forward to your projects a lot and also your presence here.  I hope someday you'll be able to do anything you want to.  Good luck Sir.  :)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 14, 2010, 06:27:03 pm
Well that sucks. Hope he either figures something out or they stop restricting him. (Which I really don't even understand why they are to begin with.)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 14, 2010, 06:39:13 pm
Quote from: Raylin
I like the part where he proxies his way into Omni.
Hi guys!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Deep Toaster on June 14, 2010, 06:42:34 pm
You're back! :)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: ztrumpet on June 14, 2010, 06:48:09 pm
Quote from: Raylin
I like the part where he proxies his way into Omni.
Hi guys!
lol :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Zera on June 14, 2010, 08:31:26 pm
That's a little harsh, Kevin. I wouldn't say his parents are Nazis because they blocked Omnimaga. It may have been an inadvertent move as a result of using some kind of web-filtering software that had Omnimaga blocked by default. (which I can't understand, as there isn't any kind of red-flag content here that would alert web-filters) If they purposefully blocked it, well... that's just dumb. >_<;

SirCmpwn - any idea why your parents are filtering your connection? Maybe you can shed some light on the situation.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 14, 2010, 09:06:59 pm
Well, they intentionally blacklisted Omnimaga before, but I have since convinced them to unblacklist it.
They are Nazis for a large number of other offenses.
They filter my connection because six years ago I was caught looking up pr0n, among other, less important factors.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 14, 2010, 09:12:05 pm
Sir, how could you?! :P
Anyway, it's nice to see you here again. And yeah, the only section of omnimaga that's possibly dangerous is Randomness, but that's just its nature. :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 14, 2010, 09:21:09 pm
How could I what?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn idiot nazi parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 14, 2010, 09:23:26 pm
Anything at all, Sir, anything at all. :P
Ignoring that, I do repeat that it is pleasing to note your continued presence at Omnimaga. In addition, you have 800 posts! (Good for you)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 14, 2010, 09:24:06 pm
Would you look at that!  I do!  Well, I did.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Geekboy1011 on June 14, 2010, 09:37:11 pm
heh i hope you can stay mate if your using mine it will be down in about a week which im sorry about were moving and such and the desktop has to come down ;.; if they block it tell me ill grab another domain and fix that :P

any way congrats on the posts and nice to see you around
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 14, 2010, 11:03:00 pm
That's a little harsh, Kevin. I wouldn't say his parents are Nazis because they blocked Omnimaga. It may have been an inadvertent move as a result of using some kind of web-filtering software that had Omnimaga blocked by default. (which I can't understand, as there isn't any kind of red-flag content here that would alert web-filters) If they purposefully blocked it, well... that's just dumb. >_<;

SirCmpwn - any idea why your parents are filtering your connection? Maybe you can shed some light on the situation.
Oh I have reasons to call them nazis, altough more in my head or private. Sorry I was rather in bad mood earlier when this happened so I'm gonna change the topic title. But yeah I still stand by what I said for the following reasons:

-They are on a crusade to remove everything SirCmpwn enjoys. If he starts liking a site, he'll get it blocked. I wouldn't be surprised if Cemetech got blocked too, soon. Apparently, all he could browse at one point was Ticalc.org. Even pastebin.com was blocked!
-They CRACKED his forum account once and hacked it twice! Cracking is illegal. In their case, their actions involved compromising his account on my forum by changing his personal info and passwords. Sadly, since no money loss is involved, no legal actions can be done. Still, it is something that is against the law.
-If I remember they bruteforced his passwords for e-mail and stuff a few times too.
-They monitor our IRC logs to stalk him. I believe Netham45 banned their IP a few times too.
-Other stuff happened as well, which I do not know, but bad enough to make Sir flee his home.

So yeah, I can't wait until Summer 2011.

The sad thing is that Sir would have almost every chance to become staff if he ever applies to Omnimaga COT now, but I unfortunately can't because their parents would then be a threat to the forum security (such as deleting all SirCmpwn posts or even everything). Maybe if I figure out at one point, I could try to setup a staff group with no privileges but access to the two staff boards.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 14, 2010, 11:07:47 pm
Sir would have almost every chance to become staff if he ever applies to Omnimaga COT now
Wow, I'm flattered!

-They are on a crusade to remove everything SirCmpwn enjoys. If he starts liking a site, he'll get it blocked. I wouldn't be surprised if Cemetech got blocked too, soon. Apparently, all he could browse at one point was Ticalc.org. Even pastebin.com was blocked!
Sadly, Cemetech has already been blocked.  I managed to convince them to unblock Omnimaga, though.

-They CRACKED his forum account once and hacked it twice! Cracking is illegal. In their case, their actions involved compromising his account on my forum by changing his personal info and passwords. Sadly, since no money loss is involved, no legal actions can be done. Still, it is something that is against the law.
This still pisses me off.

-If I remember they bruteforced his passwords for e-mail and stuff a few times too.
No, they just threatened to destroy my calculator if I didn't tell them.

-They monitor our IRC logs to stalk him. I believe Netham45 banned their IP a few times too.
Our IP is still blocked, thank you Netham45

-Other stuff happened as well, which I do not know, but bad enough to make Sir flee his home.
I won't go into details here.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 14, 2010, 11:24:55 pm
Ouch about Cemetech x.x It kinda sucks since it's like the 2nd most active TI forum and it has Kerm and a few others plus #cemetech users that you talked to a lot. I am glad they unblocked omni, though. For how many days, though? >.>

And yeah I was pissed when I heard this. I was Invisionfree support user for years and heard a lot about stuff like that and technically someone is not even supposed to access someone else's account. It's like if I guessed your e-mail password and checked your e-mail content. It would be as bad

Anyway good luck
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 14, 2010, 11:26:28 pm
Thanks.  I don't know how long Cemetech is blocked for, or how long Omnimaga is available for.  I guess we'll find out.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: mapar007 on June 15, 2010, 01:25:26 am
*Crosses fingers*


Btw, I edited the post titles on this page, they still had 'the adjectives' in them.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 15, 2010, 01:34:08 am
oh I forgot about them x.x my bad

btw the word is allowed on the site, just as long as it's not used to advocate nazi activities (such as anti semistic stuff)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: guy6020665 on June 15, 2010, 01:51:54 am
Ow that sounds pretty painful. I wish best of luck to you Sir and hope that things will get better quickly
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Deep Toaster on June 15, 2010, 10:05:09 am
Ha, not(C.

-If I remember they bruteforced his passwords for e-mail and stuff a few times too.
No, they just threatened to destroy my calculator if I didn't tell them.

It's amazing when a calculator becomes an effective ransoming tool. :P

Good luck, though.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 15, 2010, 11:25:01 am
I think in one case to let him back on Omni he had to give them his calc for 2 weeks x.x

and yeah the not(C thing is an old thing. It's someone else who used it via PM back in the old forum days because he got warned for being grammar nazi on new forum members in a trollish way, scaring one member away in the process, and he used the not(C instead of nazi thing. :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: ztrumpet on June 15, 2010, 01:11:11 pm
-If I remember they bruteforced his passwords for e-mail and stuff a few times too.
No, they just threatened to destroy my calculator if I didn't tell them.
You're parents are the biggest [censored] and [censored] ever!  I can't believe those [censored] could even conceive of doing something like that!  Sir, make sure your parents know by doing that they are [censored] and [censored]!  I hope they stop being tyrannical [censored] soon and treat you with the respect you deserve!

Spoiler For Spoiler:
You know those [censored]s?  Well, I just put them in there so you an insert your own word. :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 15, 2010, 02:02:52 pm
At least when I got my internet access taken down due to being online too often, my mom still let me access the internet in other means, such as internet cafes (altough it still sucked she did that since I was 18 and paid for the internet).
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Galandros on June 15, 2010, 02:07:40 pm
Ha, not(C.

-If I remember they bruteforced his passwords for e-mail and stuff a few times too.
No, they just threatened to destroy my calculator if I didn't tell them.

It's amazing when a calculator becomes an effective ransoming tool. :)

Good luck, though.
That is pure evil. I can't imagine the kind of persons they are or I am missing lots of things.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 15, 2010, 09:25:59 pm
It sounds like you have horrid parents... I feel bad for you.
Deep Thought: indeed.
Blocking any sites you like is... well, I've already expressed my opinion.
Yeah, can't wait until next summer.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 15, 2010, 09:29:44 pm
The worst part is when we had to start blocking the sites from his parents ourselves x.x (so they quit stalking him) such as the IRC logs
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 16, 2010, 12:40:00 am
Ya, it has all seemed really dumb and I am very sorry about this SirCmpwn. Why exactly do they restrict the Omnimaga/Cemetech/etc. activity? If you don't mind answering. I mean the only reason I could even think of is if like it was affecting grades and such like that (which I would understand at that point but I don't see that being an issue).

By the way, if Omnimaga is unblocked by his parents couldn't they still check what we are saying here? If so, I would watch what is said about them because then they might feel "a bit" inclined to block it again. Just a thought.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 12:51:59 am
From what I could understand they sometimes blocked anything calc-related
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Zera on June 16, 2010, 02:52:56 am
-They are on a crusade to remove everything SirCmpwn enjoys. If he starts liking a site, he'll get it blocked. I wouldn't be surprised if Cemetech got blocked too, soon. Apparently, all he could browse at one point was Ticalc.org. Even pastebin.com was blocked!
-They CRACKED his forum account once and hacked it twice! Cracking is illegal. In their case, their actions involved compromising his account on my forum by changing his personal info and passwords. Sadly, since no money loss is involved, no legal actions can be done. Still, it is something that is against the law.
-If I remember they bruteforced his passwords for e-mail and stuff a few times too.
-They monitor our IRC logs to stalk him. I believe Netham45 banned their IP a few times too.
-Other stuff happened as well, which I do not know, but bad enough to make Sir flee his home.

So yeah, I can't wait until Summer 2011.

They were actually trying to eavesdrop on his IRC conversations? o_0

Sheesh. If I were SirCmpwn, I would just start using public computers at libraries, or get my own laptop.

If he has access to a personal computer that's his, he can consider doing a full-volume encryption of the HD. Only he would have access to it, and all contents therein. Without his password, his parents wouldn't be able to salvage anything off the disk. I can walk him through that process...

If his parents would refuse to allow him Internet access for having a secured computer, he can consider getting a cheap netbook. They're ultra-portable, and could be easily hidden from his parents.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 02:55:42 am
Sadly all the library computers he got access to have Omnimaga blocked on them

Also I don't think he has his own computer. It seems to be a family one.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 16, 2010, 03:14:56 am
They could also potentially threaten his possessions again to gain the passwords.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 03:19:10 am
also if I was him I wouldn't pay for his home computer if he can't use it at all (too late if he already did tho :P).


Regardless, I wish him good luck, and hope he can access the site as often as possible. And judging by the comments by forum members, a lot of people appreciate him on the forums
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Galandros on June 16, 2010, 04:01:30 am
I think SirCmpwn should use a portable anonymous web browser running from a flash drive (can be easily hidden). Firefox 3.6 can do the trick.

I really should move my big historic to a safe place soon. :P I am getting a bit paranoiac after reading this topic. (I have about 12700 visits to Omnimaga xD)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 04:15:12 am
Altough maybe his parents could eventually notice something weird and discover about the flash drive. Also what if the computer has all USB ports disabled (like at the Internet Cafe I used in 2007 when I had no internet at home) or no USB port at all?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Galandros on June 16, 2010, 04:37:13 am
Altough maybe his parents could eventually notice something weird and discover about the flash drive. Also what if the computer has all USB ports disabled (like at the Internet Cafe I used in 2007 when I had no internet at home) or no USB port at all?
It can happen. Also I have seen computers very restricted overall on purpose. It is rare but you can only browse the Internet practically for research, you can't execute anything except notepad, wordpad, paint, calculator, my documents folder, IE and OpenOffice.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Deep Toaster on June 16, 2010, 09:55:53 am
Altough maybe his parents could eventually notice something weird and discover about the flash drive. Also what if the computer has all USB ports disabled (like at the Internet Cafe I used in 2007 when I had no internet at home) or no USB port at all?

That'd be even worse. If they ever take the time to disable the USB ports, he wouldn't even be able to link his calculator.

I think SirCmpwn should use a portable anonymous web browser running from a flash drive (can be easily hidden). Firefox 3.6 can do the trick.

I'd personally rather use Safari (http://www.apple.com/safari/download/) (for Mac or Windows) for that purpose. It's small, really fast (to start up, browse, and, most importantly, to close), goes into a "private browsing" mode in just two clicks, and downloads files easily. The only annoying thing is that when it installs (which took less than five seconds when I tried it), it saves a copy of the installer under Start Menu > Programs, so if you ever use it, make sure to delete that copy.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Silver Shadow on June 16, 2010, 10:21:54 am
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/345000/the_world_browser_smallest_fastest.html
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: ztrumpet on June 16, 2010, 11:29:24 am
Sadly all the library computers he got access to have Omnimaga blocked on them
That happens at half (the kids section) the computers at my library too.  It's blocked for being a "Chat Site". =/
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 16, 2010, 11:32:21 am
Go to http://www.ioage.com/en/download.htm (http://www.ioage.com/en/download.htm) for the newest version.
I might try this browser... And yes, it does seem that it may be useful to Sir.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 16, 2010, 11:59:46 am
Hmm, why would this be useful?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 16, 2010, 12:09:22 pm
I think SirCmpwn should use a portable anonymous web browser running from a flash drive (can be easily hidden). Firefox 3.6 can do the trick.
We were following up on this
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: jnesselr on June 16, 2010, 12:17:10 pm
-If I remember they bruteforced his passwords for e-mail and stuff a few times too.
No, they just threatened to destroy my calculator if I didn't tell them.
that's so sad.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 12:23:08 pm
Altough maybe his parents could eventually notice something weird and discover about the flash drive. Also what if the computer has all USB ports disabled (like at the Internet Cafe I used in 2007 when I had no internet at home) or no USB port at all?
It can happen. Also I have seen computers very restricted overall on purpose. It is rare but you can only browse the Internet practically for research, you can't execute anything except notepad, wordpad, paint, calculator, my documents folder, IE and OpenOffice.
At College library, half of the computers were so restricted that even notepad, desktop icons, wordpad and the like were disabled and we couldn't even open exe/zip files

EDIT: 9999 posts o.o
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 16, 2010, 12:24:57 pm
DJ, you have 9999 posts!
Anyway, that's ridiculous. Even notepad? I mean, really? Well, at least our dear friend is nowhere near as bad off (or so I hope)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 16, 2010, 12:31:45 pm
Woah!  9999 posts!
Also, my school tried to block executables on a flash drive, but me and the other nerds had already convinced the teachers about how to use portable apps, and they complained so much that the school stopped blocking them.  It didn't matter anyway, because we figured out you could just copy the programs to the C: drive and run them from there instead XD
Anyway, all the computers in my school are on a LAN, so we play each other in UT and Armegettron all the time.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 12:33:35 pm
Yeah I sure hope he doesn't receive bad treatments or going through extreme bad shit like some other people I knew online. I also hope he can continue working on calc projects too since it's his favorite hobby and it would suck if he got his stuff taken away

(http://www.omnimaga.org/images/screenshots/10000th.gif)

(This image is kinda old but I couldn't resist :P... I used it when I reached 10000 posts on the old Omnimaga forums)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: nemo on June 16, 2010, 12:34:20 pm
i'm using the world browser, it's really cool except it's like IE in the way it may display things incorrectly. for example, on omnimaga there's a random blank space at the top of the page. even facebook thinks it's an old version of IE:
"You're using an old version of Internet Explorer to browse Facebook right now. Facebook will work better for you if you upgrade or switch to another browser.
"

congrats on the 10,000th post DJ!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 12:35:46 pm
Ouch x.x is there a way to make it use another engine? Also how does it works? Does it just use proxies to browse sites?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 16, 2010, 12:47:38 pm
10000 post FTW!
Also, I didn't see anything about using proxies X_x
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 12:52:22 pm
What would be the use of that browser then? Is it just like Avant Browser, something using IE engine but adding new features (in the case of Avant, it added tabbed browsing and pop-up blocking for IE6 users back before IE7 came out)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 16, 2010, 12:54:11 pm
I feel the same way.  Everyone here is praising its awesomeness, but I don't notice anything that great.  It's just another browser, heck, it's a browser with a faulty display engine./me shrugs
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 16, 2010, 02:58:34 pm
Just curious, if there isn't that much of an issue as of right now why are we still looking for solutions? :P

@DJ
Congrats on 10 000 posts!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: ztrumpet on June 16, 2010, 03:01:22 pm
Sir, are you still on a proxie?  I wish your parents didn't make your life miserable. :(

DJ, congratz! O0
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 03:06:20 pm
Just curious, if there isn't that much of an issue as of right now why are we still looking for solutions? :P

@DJ
Congrats on 10 000 posts!
Just in case there are issues again soon :P

In fact, he was supposed to have Omni, Cemetech and IRC unblocked early June, then suddently one day he stopped showing up on IRC altogether then about two days later, he told me Omni was blocked again. (which is when I got pissed and posted that topic). The day after, Cemetech got blocked and Omni unblocked. Now both are unblocked, but for how long?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: jnesselr on June 16, 2010, 04:19:09 pm
Why are the blocking calc sites?  It makes no sense.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 16, 2010, 04:56:02 pm
Ya, I asked the same question. I'm curious too.

Just curious, if there isn't that much of an issue as of right now why are we still looking for solutions? :P

@DJ
Congrats on 10 000 posts!
Just in case there are issues again soon :P

In fact, he was supposed to have Omni, Cemetech and IRC unblocked early June, then suddently one day he stopped showing up on IRC altogether then about two days later, he told me Omni was blocked again. (which is when I got pissed and posted that topic). The day after, Cemetech got blocked and Omni unblocked. Now both are unblocked, but for how long?

Gotcha.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Zera on June 16, 2010, 05:18:58 pm
TheWorld Browser is just an IE-wrapper. (that is, it actually requires IE, and wraps its own functionality around it) Probably not a very secure browser, on that merit. It's likely vulnerable to the same exploits, and stores your history and temporary files in the same location IE does. There is an option to clear private files, but I don't know how accurate and deep-down it is.

May as just use a portable build of Firefox, Opera, or any other browser of your preference. Opera is pretty fast, in terms of start-up speed.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 16, 2010, 11:25:17 pm
Why are the blocking calc sites?  It makes no sense.
They are probably totally against using calculators for entertainment purposes and think it should be only used for school. I hate when older adults are so narrow-minded about technology. We were born into it. They need to quit trying to make us stop using it as much as possible if we enjoy it. I hate how they try to make us live the same way as they did when they were kid. We're in 2010, not in 1970. Just make sure your kids succeeds in school, get a job when they are older, not cause trouble when they get older and respect others.

TheWorld Browser is just an IE-wrapper. (that is, it actually requires IE, and wraps its own functionality around it) Probably not a very secure browser, on that merit. It's likely vulnerable to the same exploits, and stores your history and temporary files in the same location IE does. There is an option to clear private files, but I don't know how accurate and deep-down it is.

May as just use a portable build of Firefox, Opera, or any other browser of your preference. Opera is pretty fast, in terms of start-up speed.
I agree with Opera. On my new quad core computer with 8 GB of RAM, Firefox still manages to take 5 times longer to startup than Opera.

IE 0.3-0.5 seconds
Opera 0.5-1 seconds
Firefox 2-5 seconds
Chrome 0.1-1 seconds

Despite IE faster loading time, IE loads pages much slower. Firefox loads them a bit slower than Opera too but much faster than IE. Chrome has a quite good speed too. I really only recommend IE if you are really comfortable with its interface and be careful to what sites you are visiting. Otherwise I recommend one of the others. Plus most got portable versions anyway, if you don't have them installed
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 16, 2010, 11:46:39 pm
Why are the blocking calc sites?  It makes no sense.
They are probably totally against using calculators for entertainment purposes and think it should be only used for school. I hate when older adults are so narrow-minded about technology. We were born into it. They need to quit trying to make us stop using it as much as possible if we enjoy it. I hate how they try to make us live the same way as they did when they were kid. We're in 2010, not in 1970. Just make sure your kids succeeds in school, get a job when they are older, not cause trouble when they get older and respect others.

TheWorld Browser is just an IE-wrapper. (that is, it actually requires IE, and wraps its own functionality around it) Probably not a very secure browser, on that merit. It's likely vulnerable to the same exploits, and stores your history and temporary files in the same location IE does. There is an option to clear private files, but I don't know how accurate and deep-down it is.

May as just use a portable build of Firefox, Opera, or any other browser of your preference. Opera is pretty fast, in terms of start-up speed.
I agree with Opera. On my new quad core computer with 8 GB of RAM, Firefox still manages to take 5 times longer to startup than Opera.

IE 0.3-0.5 seconds
Opera 0.5-1 seconds
Firefox 2-5 seconds
Chrome 0.1-1 seconds

Despite IE faster loading time, IE loads pages much slower. Firefox loads them a bit slower than Opera too but much faster than IE. Chrome has a quite good speed too. I really only recommend IE if you are really comfortable with its interface and be careful to what sites you are visiting. Otherwise I recommend one of the others. Plus most got portable versions anyway, if you don't have them installed

Honestly I would say let SirCmpwn answer that since he is the one living with them so he knows their reasons the best. Speculating can be a really bad thing (sorry, not trying to be rude). I just know that if I were trying to answer that and saw people saying their own reason that weren't fully backed up or not confirmed then I would get a little peeved. (I am however not saying you are wrong, just that (unless he has told you this, in which case I am sorry for saying this) you don't know for sure or anything.)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Zera on June 17, 2010, 12:24:04 am
I agree he should use whatever fits his needs / preferences. I was just throwing that bit of info out there, as not many people are aware that some browsers are actually what you would call "IE-wrappers." Those depend on IE's core to function. While they do offer improvements, you still have to consider that the browser may have vulnerabilities intrinsic to IE.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 17, 2010, 12:30:37 am
Well I was referring to the first part of DJ's post. If you're referring to the second part of his, and not mine, then I apologize for that confusion.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 17, 2010, 03:16:40 am
Well I just had those experience with every parent I encountered (they did the same thing as mine to their kids), so I was just speaking from experience. I guess maybe I am wrong, though. Also maybe it might be due to parents of the age of my mother being from a different generation
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 17, 2010, 09:49:36 am
Well, it's up to Sir to provide a more definitive answer. We'll just have to wait...
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 17, 2010, 10:10:35 am
lolwut?
I kind of stopped paying attention to this thread when it slid off into discussions about web browsers, what is the actual question that you want a definitive answer on?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 17, 2010, 10:24:05 am
The question of why your parents have been blocking calc sites.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 17, 2010, 10:36:24 am
Ah.  In a nutshell, it started six years ago with pr0n and it escalated since.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 17, 2010, 03:59:47 pm
How does porn and calculators collide together though? Unless you just mean they are trying to restrict your internet access so you don't do that stuff again.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 17, 2010, 04:05:47 pm
Like I said, it has escalated.  I'd rather not go into details publicly.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Happybobjr on June 17, 2010, 04:41:40 pm
ok how to get around almost all blocks.
If you are windows xp. and unable to run programs, rename the program Keyb.
thee computer sees this as a driver to the keyboard so is not blocked.
might be wrong on reason it works. I do this at school.

Websites. get a flash drive.
download portable firefox on it. from portableapps.com
most of the time not blocked :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 17, 2010, 04:44:31 pm
I have no problems with either of those.  I can get around most blocks pretty easily, I just hate the time it takes me to figure out how to go around a specific blocker.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: meishe91 on June 17, 2010, 04:53:34 pm
Like I said, it has escalated.  I'd rather not go into details publicly.

Ah ok, I understand. Perfectly understandable.

Like I have said, I wish you luck with your parents, my friend.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: ztrumpet on June 24, 2010, 10:44:54 am
Sir just emailed this to Kerm:

On behalf of SirCmpwn:

Hello,

I am contacting you to let you know that my parents have again blocked all my favorite calculator sites. They do not know my password on Omnimaga, and I was able to change it right before they blocked it. I do not believe they know my Cemetech password, but I was not able to change it in time, and I have normal member rights there anyway, making it less important. If someone could get in contact with geekboy for me and ask him to [he'll know what it is], I would be very grateful.

If you could also post on your respective forums explaining my absence, I would appreciate it.

Thank you, and hopefully I can work something out with my parents.

--

Drew DeVault
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Eeems on June 24, 2010, 11:48:29 am
Grr this is annoying :/ at least they don't know the password.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 24, 2010, 01:49:19 pm
Yeah I got the message earlier :/ (I wondered why he was so active tuesday, then wednesday, even after work, he did not even get online). It is annoying. Sadly it seems like something that will happen to him every few days until he moves out, though :/

EDIT: From what I could notice, though, this seems to happen everytime shortly after he used #omnimaga a lot. I remember his parents did not want him to use any chat before, because once I asked Sir if he could get on MSN and he said he couldn't because he is not allowed to. This means if he starts using #omnimaga again when he gets unblocked, he is breaking his parents rules, which might influence their decisions of blocking him again.

If he gets unblocked, I think he should avoid IRC and if they still block his stuff, then there might be another reason (regardless if it's valid or not)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: qazz42 on June 24, 2010, 02:54:32 pm
Sirs parents are a bunch of Censoring tardmuffins
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 24, 2010, 03:06:22 pm
I thought it was "tard muffins", not "tardmuffins"? :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: qazz42 on June 24, 2010, 03:27:20 pm
No I think it is one word
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 24, 2010, 03:57:29 pm
I doubt it. Go in Open Topic on Cemetech and check the topic list. There is a topic called "Moved: Kerm is a censoring tard muffin" :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 24, 2010, 05:01:46 pm
Not again... :(
I'm not sure why they think chat is bad, but unless he absolutely needs to, then he probably should stay away from chat.
* calcdude goes to resolve the tard muffin/tardmuffin issue
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: qazz42 on June 24, 2010, 05:22:07 pm
Gahh can't find it, Ill take your word for it....
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 24, 2010, 05:27:55 pm
http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=3

Hint, the topic is started by Allynfoljskr (Nikky). It's one of the first 10 listed. It cannot be viewed, since it was moved elsewhere only staff can see, but the redirect is still visible.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: mapar007 on June 25, 2010, 05:33:39 am
Darn, not again...

I have a hunch that the problem does not lie in the calculator sites. Strength.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Zera on June 25, 2010, 08:18:00 am
I really can't understand why some parents are so insistent on sheltering their children from life. You're not teaching them anything. They're eventually going to become adults and be exposed to the horrors of the real-world. Do you think they're going to be anymore prepared for it then? Certainly not if you deceive them. Besides this, children aren't completely naive. I'm sure they know a good deal about their own anatomies, basic politics, the existence of crime, and whatever other "bad" things you want to censor out of their lives.

Maybe Sir's parents are afraid we'll be a bad influence on him, because that's what calculator communities are all about: Debauched orgies, drugs and good ol' fashioned devil-worship. In fact, I imagine his parents home-school him so he doesn't get any exposure to the depravity of the external world, and 60% or more of the curriculum is Bible-study from the Old Testament. ::)

It's really not funny, though. I hate to imagine some children growing-up with such a naive mindset, and not being prepared for all the adversities of life because their parents kept them under their wings too long; but I'm digressing now...
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2010, 09:05:20 am
Nah he goes to an external regular school, not home schooled. I'm not sure what they have in mind, though. It seems like they try to remove anything he likes from his life. They threatened to format the harddrive with all his projects on it and take away his calc too, as well.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Silver Shadow on June 25, 2010, 09:22:42 am
This is getting a bit too much déjà-vu. What's the matter with them?!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: mapar007 on June 25, 2010, 09:50:04 am
I doubt that his parents are the only factor involved, but it's speculation anyway... Since he didn't want to go into details (see earlier this topic), I guess we mustn't speculate too much :P Who knows what weird stuff we'll end up inventing.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Builderboy on June 25, 2010, 01:17:58 pm
The only time I think it would make sense is if Sir was so involved in calcs and omni that he was neglecting something else very important like school or whatnot.  We don't really know, so speculation doesn't really help.  I hope he can manage to get back on :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: ztrumpet on June 25, 2010, 04:26:31 pm
Who knows what weird stuff we'll end up inventing.
Actually, both of Sir's parents are lobsters... :P </jk>

I really hope Sir can come back!  I look forward to his presence again. ;D
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 25, 2010, 04:28:54 pm
Lobsters!? My deepest suspicions have been aroused! :P
Indeed, we all miss him. Let's hope that next time he returns, it's for good.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2010, 06:31:12 pm
Btw he's going in vacations for a month soon. He'll bring a computer, I think (if his parents allow him), but there are chances that regardless if he is blocked or not from Omni, that he would still be gone for a while anyway. One thing I am thinking about is that he might not be doing enough chores at home, or something, but I'm not sure really.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Michael.3545 on June 25, 2010, 08:30:22 pm
http://peacefire.org/ (http://peacefire.org/) creates a new proxy every 3 or 4 days.  He could sign up for their mailing list.  I have, but my school is Über Restrictive with their blocks, so they have managed to block some kind of pattern that is the same in all of these proxies.  Also we can speak in ode-cay to thwart his arents-pay if they ead-ray this iscussion-day.

Look at this.
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/141/14141.html (http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/141/14141.html)
If Omnicalc supported telnet, you could access if from your calc!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2010, 08:31:54 pm
Haha I remember seeing that calc program back in the days. Good memories!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 25, 2010, 08:33:21 pm
Have fun getting the hardware.
Btw, you'll need something more sophisticated than pig latin :P
RSA encrypt every message? (j/k too impractical)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Michael.3545 on June 25, 2010, 08:38:57 pm
How about this for the encryption?  A key can be PMed to all non-lobster users.
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/429/42981.html (http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/429/42981.html)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 25, 2010, 08:44:14 pm
Of course, let's use that :P Just like this article (http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/13/134/134579.html) says:
Quote
41. The NSA uses only TI-BASIC for their highest level of encryption, so make sure you clearly label those BASIC encryption programs as "UNBREAKABLE."
:P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2010, 08:46:03 pm
LOL I remember that news. It was epic. In fact, this news and another similar news (about reviews), as well as the ticalc.org in 100 years news are what kinda inspired me for the next fake news on Omni (if I ever do them :P)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Michael.3545 on June 25, 2010, 09:05:31 pm
Of course, let's use that :P Just like this article (http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/13/134/134579.html) says:
Quote
41. The NSA uses only TI-BASIC for their highest level of encryption, so make sure you clearly label those BASIC encryption programs as "UNBREAKABLE."
:P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_cipher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_cipher)

It actually isn't that bad.  It is only easy to break if you have both the encrypted and decrypted text.  And that is assuming that you know what encryption method is being used in the first place.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: calcdude84se on June 25, 2010, 09:12:48 pm
I was just joking around; I didn't even know about the method :P
The main problem here is effort, where most of us don't want to have to encode and decode everything. Now, if it were automated, that'd be different, but it's not :P (not like we'd deny people access anyway, the problem isn't that serious)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Michael.3545 on June 25, 2010, 09:16:52 pm
I know.  I was just kidding around. 
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 26, 2010, 09:45:28 pm
Okay, here is most of the story:
When I was eleven, I looked up porn.  My parents found out, and cut off my internet access.  From that moment on, most of my punishments became computer-based.  For the record, I don't look up porn anymore.  The next year or so is when I really started to get into programming.  I would start to spend a lot of time on the computer, about 6 or 7 hours a day during the summer, and 3 or 4 during the school year.  My parents did not like it, and they cut off the computer for a while.  I didn't like not having the computer, something I enjoy quite a bit, and found ways around their restrictions.  This is where the "cycle" began to get worse.  I would stop using the computer for a while, and start to find ways around their restrictions.  When they would find out, they would increase the restrictions.  On occasion, I would be relieved of these punishments.  Eventually, they would block me from using the computer again (as I said before, computer related punishments became their primary method of punishment), and I would begin to resist when the restrictions wouldn't lift, and it would continue the cycle. It eventually became petty problems that would make them want to block websites or other electronic privledges, and I got sick of it.  Now, I am almost constantly blocked from using the computer, and have occasional times where I can use it with their permission.
Built on top of this is the fact that my parents have many small things that make me less likely to agree with their rules.  For instance, I do not have a door on my room right now, because I was mouthy.  I cannot drive right now, even though I have a permit, because they don't think I apply myself at school enough.  This last one sounds reasonable, except that their expectations are fickle.  They originally required me to pass (a D in Colorado), then it became a C, then it became a B, for a while it was straight As, then it moved down to B, which is where it is at now (supposedly).
Also, when I approach my parents to have a conversation, I have not once felt that they have had a fair outcome.  I would appriciate if they considered my proposals, or anything I say, but they ignore what I say and every conversation turns into a one-way lecture without any of my points being addressed.  Every conversation has the same result: no result.  They only serve to widen the gap.
I also think that my parents specifically target what I care about.  These are what I primarily enjoy in life:
-Band
-Programming
-Games
-Hanging out with friends
The only one of these that has yet to be restricted is the first one.  However, they have threatened to.  I have seen all of these taken away simultaneously, and several times.  They also jeporadize my education, becuase I go to a technology school where internet access and computer access is required, and they usually cut it off cold turkey if they cut it off at all.
Important, you tl;dr-ers:
The reason I fight back is simple: they have no justification.  They cannot even justify it to themselves.  I have sat down with them in a rational setting, without any tempers flaring, and asked what I can do to lift the restrictions.  They have spent those "conversations" darting around the question and elaborating on how much I fight back.  I ask also why they block so much in the first place.  They have no answer, and simply continue the "conversation" as if I never asked.  It is rare that I get computer access back for an extended period of time, and most of the time I feel as if I am constrained into not seeing a tangible end to the restrictions.  I eventually tire of having all my privledges revoked with no plan in place to reverse the proccess.  To this day, I don't know why they choose such large restrictions as punishment for such small offenses.
An example of the small offenses that I mention is this: we were discussing programming in a setting outside of this "cycle," just a casual conversation.  During this time, I was restricted from using the computer, but not from actually using my calculator.  I mentioned something about my calculator, and my Mom made a snide comment about how I wasn't supposed to do so.  I pointed out that I wasn't restricted from the calculator, only the computer.  They took the wrong way, and she simply said: "well, now you are grounded from the calculator, so I'm technically right.  Go get me your calculator."  They do not do so as much anymore, but they routinely used to reset my entire calculator's memory.  This was before I heard about usb8x, and they wouldn't allow me to install TI Connect or TiLP on any computers, so I would loose everything.
Another big problem I have with them is that they threaten everything I care about.  I have put myself into my projects.  I have poured myself into them, and really applied my entire skill set into them, whether they involve calculators or computers.  They do not do so as much now that they know I back things up externally, but they used to completely delete my projects folder on the computer, knowing they were there, and wipe my calculator, having seen the work I put into it firsthand.  These events would destroy me, and I would become completely disconnected from the world until I overcame the fact that all of the work, the months of commitment, were gone forever.
Making things worse are the fact that my parents are tech savvy.  They are some of the most knowledgable technology people I know.  Both of my parents are Microsoft MVPs, and very good at what they do.  They installed a competent filter (Norton Safety Minder), and I have yet to find a consistently available proxy that is not blocked.  They also had the same software installed on my work computer.

I certainly hope this explains the situation a bit better.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Netham45 on June 26, 2010, 09:53:20 pm
I had a similar situation(I wasn't caught looking at porn, it was just on my computer too much for their tastes.)

My way around it was to pay for my own computer, but it sounds like that might not work for your parents. I got a job at King Soopers pretty much to buy myself a computer.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Builderboy on June 26, 2010, 10:06:08 pm
Thats sad :( Not so much the punishments, but the reasons (read: none) and the careless destruction of projects :( Well we're glad your back for now, and we hope you can continue to be on here!  I hope you can come to terms with your parents, although it sounds like that might be hard :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Zera on June 26, 2010, 10:46:36 pm
On second thought, maybe Kevin's "Nazi" comparison was fairly accurate after all. :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 26, 2010, 11:03:12 pm
Thanks for explaining SirCmpwn, now I understand the situation better. Maybe at the time the punishments were fair (when you looked at porn), but today, I feel it is abuse (if you cannot even say the word programming without getting threatened and if they try to take away everything you like) and IMHO, as soon as you turn 18 and finish hi school, move out. Try to save some money to make it easier and in case your parents would retaliate by firing you from your job and that you had to find another, and when you get another job, do not give your old job as reference, in case your parents talk shit in your back to your new boss. I wouldn't mind helping out financially if I am still able to get here next year, altough I wouldn't be able to tell how much because currency exchange rates can vary a lot from a time to another and we never know what can happen.

Also I doN't remember if I said it in this topic or via e-mail but you have a lot of people here who care about you and I do not notice it only on the forums or in public on the IRC channel. People keep asking me if I got news from you whenever I am on IRC or OmnomIRC.

I wish you good luck at home for now and for when you will move out.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: SirCmpwn on June 27, 2010, 02:35:06 am
Thanks for the support, guys.
I think I'm done fielding questions about this for a while, it was pretty rough getting this all out there.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Tribal on June 27, 2010, 06:02:55 am
Pardon, but I'd like to pull out some key legal issues that come about in some of DJ Omnimaga's earlier post of which SirCmpwn could take legal action against if such events occured:

1)...Try to save some money to make it easier and in case your parents would retaliate by firing you from your job and that you had to find another...
2)...and when you get another job, do not give your old job as reference, in case your parents talk shit in your back to your new boss...

For the the first key issue, if they would retaliate by firing you, there may be some legal action onto which you can use to fight back with. I say 'may' because most in most states the employer can fire you at any given time for any reason unless the state specifically forbids "at will" terminations(I'm not sure if California does or not), or it breaches either employment policy or a contract you may be in(whether it be written, oral, or implied).
NOTE: Also to add onto what DJ Omnimaga was saying, if they give you a choose in the matter as to weather you are fired or you quit, it may be best to choose to be fired, since if you just quit and you file for unemployment, it will be rejected.

For the second key issue, it is actually illegal and you can bring them to trial for doing so. It would fall under the "Defamation, Libel and Slander" law and they could most certainly be taken to court for doing so. Although there are ways to get around this unfortunetly by 'hinting' onto things, and not actually 'telling' the employer. All-in-All it may just be a good idea to not add them to the references, but if you do and this issue does arise, know you do have a legal course of action.

I wish you the best of luck SirCmpwn, and may the ~year time from your graduation be a short one  ;)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: souvik1997 on June 27, 2010, 08:29:00 am
If your parents are continuosly blocking your internet access, you could use a USB version of Ubuntu Linux with TILP installed.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: ztrumpet on June 27, 2010, 11:59:22 am
Thank you for explaining Sir.  We all feel your pain. :(

I hope your parents will eventually become reasonable, but unfortunately I do not believe that will happen.  I'd attempt to give you some advice, but I can not come up with anything I'd do that you don't already do.  I wish you a lot of luck with dealing with your parents.  Remember there is no one at Omni who can justify what they're doing and we all want you to succeed. :)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 27, 2010, 01:54:04 pm
Pardon, but I'd like to pull out some key legal issues that come about in some of DJ Omnimaga's earlier post of which SirCmpwn could take legal action against if such events occured:

1)...Try to save some money to make it easier and in case your parents would retaliate by firing you from your job and that you had to find another...
2)...and when you get another job, do not give your old job as reference, in case your parents talk shit in your back to your new boss...

For the the first key issue, if they would retaliate by firing you, there may be some legal action onto which you can use to fight back with. I say 'may' because most in most states the employer can fire you at any given time for any reason unless the state specifically forbids "at will" terminations(I'm not sure if California does or not), or it breaches either employment policy or a contract you may be in(whether it be written, oral, or implied).
NOTE: Also to add onto what DJ Omnimaga was saying, if they give you a choose in the matter as to weather you are fired or you quit, it may be best to choose to be fired, since if you just quit and you file for unemployment, it will be rejected.

For the second key issue, it is actually illegal and you can bring them to trial for doing so. It would fall under the "Defamation, Libel and Slander" law and they could most certainly be taken to court for doing so. Although there are ways to get around this unfortunetly by 'hinting' onto things, and not actually 'telling' the employer. All-in-All it may just be a good idea to not add them to the references, but if you do and this issue does arise, know you do have a legal course of action.

I wish you the best of luck SirCmpwn, and may the ~year time from your graduation be a short one  ;)
Aaah, seems good. Btw he lives in Colorado. I hope the laws about that applies there. Over here, I think there are laws about that but it's hard to get proof. The only way to detect if your boss will slander you to prevent you from getting any other job is to get somebody else to call them for references about you or do it yourself with modified voice (filling each side of your mouth with wadding). Some bosses are so bad that when you want to leave the job, they get frustrated because they think you are abandonning them and take revenge with slander.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: mapar007 on June 28, 2010, 03:32:21 am
And you get the 'golden handshake' when fired :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2010, 03:38:50 am
what do you mean? o.o I never heard that expression before I think.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: mapar007 on June 28, 2010, 04:57:23 am
(I actually didn't know whether it existed in English at all, but...)

It's basically an expression for the premium you get when you are fired by your employer.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Galandros on June 28, 2010, 05:50:10 am
This has become much clearer now.

SirCmpwn, have you tried to build a good relationship with your parents?
Maybe you think it is too late now that you have 18 (or close) and you have been fighting many years. The second reason is better.
Or you have an impetuous personality (a possibility I don't know you well enough, but I know from my own experience how hard it can be) that makes you unable to control in a situations intense for you. (it is your life and hobbies)

But I understand your parents, they seem like the kind of parents that want their kids to be well succeeded. Probably they just want you to work harder because you they know you are a smart guy and you loose too many time on hobbies and you can't control yourself sometimes. Plus if they work hard, they don't like a son with few motivation on studies.

But your parents are also the kind of parents that don't hear your opinion. If by any chance they start to hear you after you are responsible to them, it would be worth your effort. Step back from some of your projects for a while. Keep the band and exits with friends, for example. ;) You have a long life ahead and at least maintaining some friendly ship with your parents will make your life much more stable. (it is even advantageous for your projects) Seeing some thrust of them in 3 to 6 months seems reasonable. If you can get an agreement with them would be good, but your parents seem the total control type so there the is the possibility for them do not want for you get back on some things.
If you ever tried something like this, did you make some mistake?

I could not avoid smile and laugh a bit thinking on USA view on legal actions. Some books "cartoonize" like it is your national sport, preferable hobby or something. At least is better than having afraid of starting legal actions.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Zera on June 28, 2010, 11:15:35 am
It doesn't sound like his parents would concede - they're just too reactionary.

IMO, I think his best bet is to play along until he's 18, then immediately move out and estrange himself. (although, he could seek emancipation if he has a convincing case) It might be financially tedious, but he could look into income-based housing, dormitories, or other options. If you're a student, the government will do its best to help you out financially. If you're going to a college with relatively low tuition and apply for financial aid, you could possibly have enough left over to live on. It all depends on how quickly he wants to claim independence from his parents.

I have a friend who went this route. His parents were trying to arrange for him to go to specific schools, tried to control pretty much every aspect of his social life and even tried to arrange for a girlfriend. Since he couldn't make any other move without having to deal with consequences at home, he packed his bags, ran off to another state and went to a local school. He may not be getting the best quality education, but at least he has his freedom.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2010, 11:25:06 am
There is income-based housing in USA too? Seems good. Is it just for poor families with kids, though? Over here, for example, if I decided to live alone, I would be under the seal of poverty (barely), but because there are so few places left for such homes (3-4 years waiting list), they give priority to people who are into worse situations than me (example: monoparental family with no job and two kids to feed). There are also places now that are for people under seal of poverty but not as much. Those places have waiting lists too, though.

One thing I hope when you turn 18 SirCmpwn is that your parents won't try to prevent you from moving out, continuing to control your life. If it's the case, what I suggest is to call the police and report them. If they won't let you use the home phone, try to text somebody who live to the west in USA while your parents don't notice, like a friend, give him your exact address, so he can call the police for you or try to get you out of the home so you can do so.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Netham45 on June 28, 2010, 12:30:25 pm
Colorado's an at-will work state, they can fire/terminate you for anything.

I just got laid off because they hired too many people. `-`

I'd personally just get the hell out of there as soon as I possibly could. The government can give you grants and such for education and housing, they do it alot for students, and alot of them are fairly easy to apply for, to my understanding.

Also, you said you went to a technical school, that wouldn't happen to be Warren tech, would it?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: Zera on June 28, 2010, 12:40:47 pm
I'm not sure what the programs are like in Canada, but it sounds similar to the U.S. There's housing that's based on your total income. (whether your income is from working, disability, or any other source) Basically, the cost of your rent and utilities is adjusted depending on what your income is. For some people, the cost can be very low. I think there are waiting lists for this kind of housing, though. It probably depends on availability and the priority of your circumstances. (e.g., a family with children might have more priority than a bachelor) I think there are actually many different housing programs that have different standards. Some will allow you to buy your own home, and then help you lower payments.

If you're a student, there's financial aid and student housing. Generally, you receive a fixed amount of financial aid to pay for tuition, but you get to keep any additional aid that's left over. This can be used to help with housing expenses or food, for instance. (it can actually be used for anything you want)

The kinds of services available to you can be either federal or state. If something is federal, then it's available throughout the entire country; if it's state, then it's only available in your state. Sometimes, you can take advantage of both kinds of services, or state services will extend upon the benefits offered by federal services. (e.g., some states grant additional financial aid based on "lottery scholarships")

There is a strong tendency for public housing to be dangerous, though. Generally, druggies and dealers live in and around these areas. As long as you're not involved with them, you're relatively safe. I don't think I would bother trying to be friends with anyone in such an area, though. By associating with them, you're likely to end up in the wrong place at the wrong time, and have criminal charges brought against you. (particularly if you're around anyone in this area while they are in possession of drugs) How police deal with drug crimes in the U.S. is really outrageous.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2010, 12:54:16 pm
Aaah ok. Over here it's just appartments. The rent is 25% of your monthly revenues. For the other kind of appartment (for family with low revenues, but not as low as some others) it's 30% I think. Had I stayed alone somewhere in an appartment, I would need to pay about the equivalent of 45% of my monthly revenues. There are even people who pay like 60%.

And I agree with Zera about the troublesome people living in the areas where are located such places. I lived around such place for years (and still do) and the best thing to do is do your little thing and not get involved too much with neightboorhood. This includes adults, even elders. And obviously, never keep too much money at home or on yourself, in case.