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The Day We Fight Back
« on: February 11, 2014, 07:48:57 am »
It is time to fight back the NSA!
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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 08:19:48 am »
Signed. I hope that site won't send me daily spam if I uncheck the "receive e-mails" case, though :P

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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2014, 11:31:12 am »
I usually restrain my hate towards people and entities, but the more I look at the american legislative system, the more I hate it.

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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2014, 12:59:34 pm »
Eh, I don't care either way. Not enough to email my legislature, though.

I find it ironic how I live in the US and I don't care enough to do so, and none of you live in the US, and you do care enough :P
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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 03:53:58 pm »
I think it's because in USA people probably expected to be spied on since long ago, since it has been half a decade since they started trying to pass internet restriction bills, but elsewhere, people are not happy at all about the idea of a foreign country spying on theirs nor their own stuff.


That reminds me, I wonder if the NSA or Snowden issue could eventually result into World War 3?

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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 03:55:33 pm »
We are still in a cold war, in case you didn't notice.
I mean look around you.

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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 03:57:11 pm »
True, but I really mean an actual war like WW2. Cold war is still going on in a way with the Snowden and other issues between Russia/their allies and USA/their allies, then there's the whole North Korea nuclear threat.

Another thing I wonder is even if no global war occur, could USA eventually become like China and North Korea when it comes to Internet censorship and laws?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 03:59:16 pm by DJ Omnimaga »

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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 04:00:54 pm »
You forgot about Iran :P

But yeah, I knew Google tracked my searches since forever ago (I mean, that's how the engine works :P). Not much of a surprise to me that they give that info to the government.
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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2014, 04:15:32 pm »
it's already not that far from it.
NSA is a perfect example of it.
the death of net neutrality is yet another example of the corruption of the state.
and guess what, that means the state is not serving the people, it's serving power.

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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2014, 04:16:31 pm »
Well said.
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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2014, 04:22:38 pm »
it's already not that far from it.
NSA is a perfect example of it.
the death of net neutrality is yet another example of the corruption of the state.
and guess what, that means the state is not serving the people, it's serving power.

You're drawing unsubstantiated conclusions. The issues you mention are rather sadly misrepresented by most of the people who talk about them. The net neutrality issue in particular (assuming you refer to the recent ruling by the D.C appellate court) is due to a failure on the part of the FCC to properly regulate Verizon. Had the government actually done its job properly, the case would likely have passed onto an actual trial for judgement.
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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2014, 04:23:44 pm »
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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2014, 04:25:02 pm »
it's already not that far from it.
NSA is a perfect example of it.
the death of net neutrality is yet another example of the corruption of the state.
and guess what, that means the state is not serving the people, it's serving power.

You're drawing unsubstantiated conclusions. The issues you mention are rather sadly misrepresented by most of the people who talk about them. The net neutrality issue in particular (assuming you refer to the recent ruling by the D.C appellate court) is due to a failure on the part of the FCC to properly regulate Verizon. Had the government actually done its job properly, the case would likely have passed onto an actual trial for judgement.


make an educated guess on why the government didn't do it's job properly

of course, I'm only drawing speculations, but this does seem like the government being a mere illusion of democracy.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 04:27:26 pm by Siapran »

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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2014, 04:25:55 pm »
Hanlon's Razor applies here.
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Re: The Day We Fight Back
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2014, 04:37:13 pm »
I feel like I should care about all this. Maybe it's because I am not an American, but I don't feel affected by all this. I always assumed the government was spying on everyone and you should always be careful with the data you put out there.
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